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mega_biscoito
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posted July 09, 2018 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please give some information on this relationship?

Should I continue feeding what I feel for her or should I just forget her?

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LaceyLeigh
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posted July 09, 2018 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you together, or do you just like her?

You guys have a lot in common chart-wise, even though you were born two years apart.

I like the Sun/Neptune double whammy, very dreamy and romantic. The Mercury conjunct Mercury, leads to good communication. Her Venus conjunct your Uranus equals excitement. Your Venus sextile her Mars is nice for attraction.

Depending on what’s wrong, synastry-wise I would say stick it out. But, logically, if you’re having doubts, and asking these types of questions, I think it would be best to let go.

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mega_biscoito
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posted July 09, 2018 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have doubts. I truly like her a lot. The problem os that she decides to stop the relationship. I think I gave myself to her to much and perhaps she felt a little sufocated.

I don't if should to continue as a friend having no hopes or like a friend still waiting for something.

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posted July 09, 2018 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see.

Well the synastry looks nice. While Venus/Uranus can point to excitement, but also a bit of instability.

If you’re worried that you came on too strong, you could try and pull back a little, and give her some time to miss you.

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hypatia238
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posted July 09, 2018 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I see.

Well the synastry looks nice. While Venus/Uranus can point to excitement, but also a bit of instability.

If you’re worried that you came on too strong, you could try and pull back a little, and give her some time to miss you.


And with venus conjunct uranus if you pull back and give her time to miss you she might come back. Give her space.

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LunaIscariot
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posted July 09, 2018 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should post the composite.
I see some nice aspects in this synastry, but a lot to be desired too.

Your moon and IC is conjunct her ASC (which is also your IC ruler). So this is a very binding and magnetic connection, she affects your emotions in a very deep and intense way since your moon, IC and IC ruler are all involved and one in the same. You are probably very attached and feel very connected to her. Lots of feelings of comfort and security and trust.
This is the main highlight of your connection with her.

The main issue is the t-square with both your moons, mars and her jupiter/Saturn.
Your moons being opposite tells me you don’t understand each other on an emotional level since you’re so different and have very different needs/ways of expressing your emotions. She doesn’t like to express her emotions and likes to stay in control and doesn’t feel comfortable with emotional displays or overly effusive people. You can be very moody or changeable and she may have a hard time with this.
You’re probably too emotional/sensitive for her liking and she feels overwhelmed by you or just doesn’t understand and it can irritate or be a turn off for her. Especially since her Saturn squares your moon, she may be critical towards your emotions or feel you are immature.

Your Saturn square her sun can also feel restrictive to her, she may feel like she can’t fully express herself in a spontaneous way that you will approve of. She may feel judged by you.
Your Uranus conjunct her venus means her affections for you run hot and cold or are erratic. This is usually a fling or short term affair with this aspect since one or both peoples feeling for each other are unstable.

I feel you’d be best to find someone who you are more truly compatible with and have a stronger connection to.

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hypatia238
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posted July 09, 2018 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Opposites attract: moon opposite moon can work, even though you are different you also feel at home at the same time with each other with this placement.

Moon square Saturn can be binding and be part of the reason why you don't want to let go and want work on the relationship.

Moon opposite moon forming a tsquare with Jupiter conjunct Saturn can be a big reason why you two developed feelings for each other as saturn makes you want to commit and take the other seriously and jupiter expands the feelings and attraction generated from that moon opposite moon while saturn helps ground you two emotionally and give you a desire to work on the relationship.

I find tsquares are very binding and powerful bc energy builds up between the two planets that are opposing and then release with the planet at the apex like an explosion.

I have a sag client with moon in capricorn and venus in scorpio, she is a teen though but very smart and mature and I will tell you that your girl wants space to see if she misses you and to realize if her feelings for you are real, you need to give her that space, I don't think there is someone else in the picture but with your moon in cancer you got attached faster and she doesn't want to be with you out of a sense of duty, she wants to make sure she has real feelings and she wants you to learn to be more independent but she does care about you, give her space.

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posted July 09, 2018 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last Venus aspect Uranus is a lot of fun, I have this with my husband whom yes I may end up divorcing but we have been together for 11 years total and have had quite an interesting ride and it has been fun, hard too but we have had our share of adventures and there is strong friendship between us which is why we have lasted so long.

We have venus square uranus in synastry and composite and he has venus square uranus in his natal. Strangely his feelings for me are constant, I am the one that fluctuates and wants to break free periodically.

Since my chart ruler JUPITER conjuncts URANUS I am attracted to uranian types and they are to me and my relationships tend to be uranian. With Uranian relationships you have to give each other space and room to miss each other.

With plutonic meets Uranus types of relationships like you two have since you both have venus in scorpio you have to consume each other and then detach for a while and let each other miss each other for a while, let the desire build up again and then reconnect.

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posted July 09, 2018 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Aspect Uranus
Moon Aspect Uranus

"Sea was in love with the Sand"

^^The sea is wild, mysterious, intense and free, its unpredictable and cannot be controlled but it always willingly returns to kiss the sand.


BUT YES POST THE COMPOSITE TOO, this gives more info about whether relationship can be long term or not IMO.

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mega_biscoito
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posted July 10, 2018 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is composite. Don't know which house systems you like to use, if it's ok like this?



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posted July 10, 2018 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very well said hyp!

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mega_biscoito
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posted July 10, 2018 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chart I posted is ther right one?
In Astro.com there are 2 options:
- Midpoint Method
- Reference Place

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LunaIscariot
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posted July 10, 2018 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia; yes opposites attract, but they don’t stay together....
I agree t-squares, grand squares etc. any closed pattern formations add a lot of chemistry and can be very binding and compelling INITIALLY that is. Over time the inherent incompatibility of the squares or oppositions really start to show up and can be very challenging after the initial sparks die down.
Especially without other strong harmonious contacts and conjunctions between the inner planets which this synastry is lacking for the most part.
They also don’t have any overlays to each other’s 5th, 7th and 8th houses besides his same planets which she already has natally there so it’s not doing much for her (she already has venus, Uranus and mercury in the 5th and mars in her 7th).
His overlays are a bit better since her venus falls into his 8th and her jupiter/Saturn is conjunct his DSC and she matches his 5th house symbolism well. But this just tells us what we already know which is that he has the stronger feelings since she was the one to break it off.


The composite is very weak.
Not many aspects again which mirrors the holes in the synastry, you don’t have many aspects between your inner planets in synastry either.
Venus is only conjunct Uranus.
Moon is afflicted by the mars square and conjunct Saturn. Only making 1 harmonious aspect to mercury.
Sun is also square Saturn.
Sun and moon making hard aspects with Saturn means the relationship feels very heavy, and like a burden or too serious. Can zap any romance. Especially when you don’t have any other positive conjunctions or trines/Sextiles with Jupiter and venus to make up for it.

Having planets fall in the relationship houses (moon in 5th, venus conjunct DSC , sun and mercury in the 7th and mars in the 8th) is great! But the fact that these planets aren’t really aspecting each other and there are no conjunctions between ANY of the personal planets is really really tough. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a significant relationship without at least 1 conjunction between the personal planets in the composite.
Scattered composites make it tough to really connect.

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mega_biscoito
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posted July 10, 2018 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere I should had reduced the orbs when doing the chart? Can that have any influence in the charts I posted?

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hypatia238
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posted July 10, 2018 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Hypatia; yes opposites attract, but they don’t stay together....
I agree t-squares, grand squares etc. any closed pattern formations add a lot of chemistry and can be very binding and compelling INITIALLY that is. Over time the inherent incompatibility of the squares or oppositions really start to show up and can be very challenging after the initial sparks die down.


I disagree, tsquares keep the relationship interesting and are VERY binding and NOT just initially!!!!!!!! My parents have sun opposite moon forming a Tsquare with Neptune in composite and they have been together for over 35 years and have a great marriage. They also have a YOD in composite with venus sextile mars and the moon at the apex and they have Pluto opposite Venus conjunct Jupiter. Last they have Uranus squaring their nodes in composite (another tsquare).

My relationships that lasted at least a decade involve tsquares in composite. My best friend from high school we were best friends for a decade, we had in composite Uranus Opposite Chiron with the LOVE stellium at the apex. My other best friend whom I was best friends for over a decade, same thing, we had Uranus opposite chiron forming a tsquare with Sun conjunct Eros at the apex. My husband we have been together for 11 years and I might divorce him or NOT, we have Uranus opposite Chiron forming a tsquare with Venus conjunct atropos at the apex. One of the most important relationships of my life were I felt the deepest in love with we have venus opposite moon forming a tsquare with neptune in composite and a pluto stellium (sun-valentine-pluto-mars). The person I am into right now we have venus opposite pluto forming a tsquare with moon in davison.

So people that I tend to commit to and be with for a very long time I personally have a tsquare with them in composite. You want a relationship that challenges you, that has passion and energy, romance, that keeps your on your toes and pushes your comfort zone and that simultaneously makes you feel like home, loved and accepted.

I have tsquare involving my sun and moon natally with Neptune so perhaps I enjoy tsquares bec of that but like I said they are biding and powerful and not just initially IMO.

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posted July 10, 2018 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere I should had reduced the orbs when doing the chart? Can that have any influence in the charts I posted?

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posted July 10, 2018 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m not talking about composites....
I was talking about t-squares in synastry, and I wasn’t disagreeing with you lol.
I agree T-squares etc. are attractive and binding. But you need other harmonious contacts in SYNASTRY like trines and sextiles and especially conjunctions to sustain the attraction and add enough compatibility after the initial sparks of the t-square die down and the challenges start showing up (because they absolutely do, these are challenging aspects involved in a t-square after all, the t-square just makes them more manageable and more exciting than a typical square or opposition by itself since it has something else to hook into, it adds a dynamic energy and chemistry).

This is an attraction aspect, not a compatibility aspect.
You need both for a successful and healthy relationship, and for it to last.
T-squares are great, as long as you have other mitigating factors.
That’s what I’m trying to say. What I meant by intially is that if you don’t have these other compatibility factors, the t-square usually turns more destructive when it was intially all energy and excitement and attraction.

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posted July 10, 2018 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I’m not talking about composites....
I was talking about t-squares in synastry, and I wasn’t disagreeing with you lol.
I agree T-squares etc. are attractive and binding. But you need other harmonious contacts in SYNASTRY like trines and sextiles and especially conjunctions to sustain the attraction and add enough compatibility after the initial sparks of the t-square die down and the challenges start showing up (because they absolutely do, these are challenging aspects involved in a t-square after all, the t-square just makes them more manageable and more exciting than a typical square or opposition by itself since it has something else to hook into, it adds a dynamic energy and chemistry).

This is an attraction aspect, not a compatibility aspect.
You need both for a successful and healthy relationship, and for it to last.
T-squares are great, as long as you have other mitigating factors.
That’s what I’m trying to say. What I meant by intially is that if you don’t have these other compatibility factors, the t-square usually turns more destructive when it was intially all energy and excitement and attraction.


I like how you broke it down
Thank you!

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posted July 10, 2018 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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mega_biscoito
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posted July 11, 2018 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you want to say Todd?

I noticed a lot of person ask you to comment charts. If I could ask to analyze mine how show I draw it in astro.com? Orbs and elements I must include?

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posted July 11, 2018 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mega_biscoito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia, so you agree with Luna?

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posted July 11, 2018 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agreed with her last feedback which is a general feedback about synastry tsquare aspects and her conclusion that synastry tsquares need to be balanced out with soft aspects.

I think when a tsquare in synastry or composite has planets in that tsquare that form soft aspects with other things in the chart that can be quite nice.

Like in the composite with the current guy I am having fun with I have Mars opposite Neptune forming a Tsquare with Jupiter conjunct Southnode at the apex. But Mars is trining Pluto, Jupiter conjunct Southnode is trining Moon conjunct Amor, and Neptune is sextile Pluto conjunct Mercury. So every object that is part of that Tsquare is also forming a soft aspect with something else in the composite chart.

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posted July 11, 2018 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Uranus on the DC it could be an on and off relationship, were you break up and get together or are you two from different ethnic backgrounds?

The composite has nice house placements with Mars in the 8th trine Jupiter conjunct 5th house cusp, this should be good for sex and moon and saturn in the 5th house means you know how to have fun together and there is romance in the air but you also have realistic expectations and a sense of commitment to one another. Sun in the 7th tends to indicate a relationship may be established, it gives this we are stronger together than apart feeling and like you are a team.

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posted July 18, 2018 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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