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Nezumi
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posted August 01, 2018 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nezumi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know one aspect doesn't mean that someone will like you, but it's the first time I have Jupiter conjunct Venus with someone and I am a little disappointed to find out that he usually avoids and is extra chilly with me.
Sometimes he is very nice then a switch goes off and he is back to being cold again.
What gives?


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And we have Venus/Sun as well

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Lalafortunaea
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posted August 01, 2018 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know one guy with Natal Jup and V conjunct. He's very much like what you describe, with most people though!

It could have something to do with preferring the materialistic side of "love", as in, material pleasures and comforts. Jupiter multiplies that. So, if Jupiter is multiplying something in someone's chart that the native "doesn't" like or identify with (like the fear of real friendship or love), it can make someone cold. And the other way around, could make them repulsed by materialistic love. Just my two cents...

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posted August 01, 2018 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I know one guy with Natal Jup and V conjunct. He's very much like what you describe, with most people though!

It could have something to do with preferring the materialistic side of "love", as in, material pleasures and comforts. Jupiter multiplies that. So, if Jupiter is multiplying something in someone's chart that the native "doesn't" like or identify with (like the fear of real friendship or love), it can make someone cold. And the other way around, could make them repulsed by materialistic love. Just my two cents...



Lalafortunaea she is not talking about natal venus-jupiter conjunction^^.

And this hit right home, so I have to say its very unfortunate you met someone cold with venus-jupiter.

Venus and jupiter together is one of the best aspects to have. If even that aspect won't make your chart and personality to light up, nothing can^^. The guy you are talking about most likely had other aspects to venus-jupiter or something else in his chart killing the benefits of venus-jupiter itself. One aspect can not give positive vibes to a persons charecter all alone. But I myself can often get lost in one aspect, planet etc :/

Venus is a benificial planet, jupiter also. A person with venus-jupiter conjunction is very generous with its warmth and love towards its loved ones. Very happy go lucky and loving and caring. Jupiter-venus in itself would not make someone be materialistic and care about material things. I can go on but yeah you get the point


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posted August 01, 2018 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 01, 2018 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Melinn
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posted August 01, 2018 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say I myself have a hard time to look at people I feel for and interpretend their charts! I have blindspots and yes I turn often to thise forums to get help! So don't mistake my forwardness for being harsh on you or anything. This aspect just I know well haha

So you see, his poor venus is all crushed under all that Chiron-saturn-uranus mess. He already have huge problems according to the chart but I don't know how he handles those energies of course!

So in short your jupiter on this mess of crushed venus, will not lighten things up for him, it will just amplifie it!

This is why things has to be concidered in context. Something i myself are very bad at

Hope more people can chime in!

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posted August 01, 2018 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nezumi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have to say I myself have a hard time to look at people I feel for and interpretend their charts! I have blindspots and yes I turn often to thise forums to get help! So don't mistake my forwardness for being harsh on you or anything. This aspect just I know well haha

So you see, his poor venus is all crushed under all that Chiron-saturn-uranus mess. He already have huge problems according to the chart but I don't know how he handles those energies of course!

So in short your jupiter on this mess of crushed venus, will not lighten things up for him, it will just amplifie it!

This is why things has to be concidered in context. Something i myself are very bad at

Hope more people can chime in!


Hey now My Venus is not that messed up even though it is in conjunction with Chiron... And opposite Uranus/Saturn. She's just a tad sensitive. And maybe somewhat insecure.

On a serious note I am the Taurus (blue) he's the Capricorn(red).
As for what I expected... I don't know.
With
his Jupiter conjunct my Venus & trine my Moon
his moon conjunct my NN
my Ascendant conjunct his NN
his Venus trine my Sun

I expected something more fun and interesting I guess. But every time he's around me he either avoids any kind of interaction or if he has to talk with me (we're co-workers) he's harsh and abrupt. He even has a Pisces moon to boot.

I just wanted to understand his behaviour I guess.

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posted August 01, 2018 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nezumi:
Hey now My Venus is not that messed up even though it is in conjunction with Chiron... And opposite Uranus/Saturn. She's just a tad sensitive. And maybe somewhat insecure.

On a serious note I am the Taurus (blue) he's the Capricorn(red).
As for what I expected... I don't know.
With
his Jupiter conjunct my Venus & trine my Moon
his moon conjunct my NN
my Ascendant conjunct his NN
his Venus trine my Sun

I expected something more fun and interesting I guess. But every time he's around me he either avoids any kind of interaction or if he has to talk with me (we're co-workers) he's harsh and abrupt. He even has a Pisces moon to boot.

I just wanted to understand his behaviour I guess.


Ok haha I missread it then! I feel so dumb! I will delete it then, it does not feel good :/

Ok but I stand my ground on that, the jupiter whomevers it is, amplifies the planet it touches in synastry. For ex, I have a friend and his Aries Mars is on my Jupiter-venus. I amplifie his Mars and we are bickering, a lot! He has a Mars in retrograde, so my Jupietr helps his Mars energy to be forward etc, both negative sides and positive sides will be amplified. For us it really did until we reached a breaking point and he had to apologize, after that it was much better and I started to understand the effect I had on his Aries mars better.


Yes I understand you feel confused by this person. Can you post his chart though? its hard to read it this way^^

Him having capri placements may explain him being cold :/. He has Mars leo, but its retro

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posted August 01, 2018 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nezumi, what can you say about this person's lifestyle?

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Lalafortunaea she is not talking about natal venus-jupiter conjunction^^.

I understood that, but even what we've got in our natals, can in a roundabout way describe how it can turn out in relationship charts. Venus and Jupiter together aren't always good, in my experience.

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posted August 01, 2018 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Nezumi, what can you say about this person's lifestyle?

I understood that, but even what we've got in our natals, can in a roundabout way describe how it can turn out in relationship charts. Venus and Jupiter together aren't always good, in my experience.


Yes true that! Jupiter sure brings problems aswell, like not seing your faults etc. Hmm I think I always saw jupiter as the planet of luck, but then I would have had luck in love ahaha ( Sad, super sad ). But it is more about "expansion" of things, good or bad :/

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posted August 02, 2018 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nezumi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Nezumi, what can you say about this person's lifestyle?

Frugal. Everything he earns and he does earn quite a lot goes into supporting his family (his daughter and his mother). He goes to great lengths to make sure they have all the things they want and much more while he's barely scraping by. I get the feeling that he is living through them a little.

He's pretty nonconformist when it comes down to HIS looks (lots of visible tattoos) but he seems to prefer the company of traditional and downright stuffy people.

He is a workaholic that likes to party hard from time to time.

He claims to dislike helpless and needy people yet he cannot turn his back on them when they ask for help. Even if he does not like them on a personal level.

He also claims to be a straightforward and no-nonsense person, but there are a lot of times when he prefers to tell the truth in a joking way as to not upset the others. If they catch on it's all good, but if they don't he sulks and he becomes quite passive aggressive. Which is a surprise to me because of his Sagittarius Mercury


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posted August 10, 2018 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 17, 2018 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 17, 2018 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking it's Saturn/Moon opposition and Saturn/Mercury that is to blame. Saturn is cold ,unkind energy at first blush

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posted August 17, 2018 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he is more reserved than you are thinking. His natal Mercury opposite Chiron means he has a hard time saying what he needs to. And jupiter conjunct his chiron... that feels like he feels his pain even more than the regular person. Notice it is in Sag and Gem... so really a strong issue with communication and learning.

You hit these points with your Venus, so in a sense you could potentially bring healing but he has to open himself to the pain first. And with Saturn trine Saturn, and your Saturn trine his Chiron... I think this is scary to him. I am not sure it is dislike but that he put his wall up bcs he senses on a soul level what you could do to him.

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posted August 28, 2018 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nezumi, your Asc ruler Venus is conjunct his Dsc ruler Jupiter. I'm sure he likes you - a lot.
Some guys are hot and cold like that, it's either disinterest or insecurity. And based on the interaspect between your Venus and his Jupiter I'd say it's the latter. He probably doesn't want to come on too strong but just be nice and friendly, he'll come around eventually and relax more around you.

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