posted August 09, 2018 02:52 PM            

"There were weird coincidences, like finishing sentences, reading minds, he wasn't supposed to even be in that bus but last minute thing changed and he sat right next to me, then we even had a flat tire and shared that moment of crisis that binds people together, when we arrived he just in time pulled me from getting hit by a crazy car on the street, when I would think about him he would suddenly call me etc. The thing is, we are nothing alike, he's almost adhd extrovert and does tons of different sports, jobs and hobbies, whereas I am contained but friendly, melancholic young woman of words and wisdom lol"

this is exactly what occurs when you have vertex axis on the ascendant/descendant axis,such as your composite shows. here Saturn opposed to chiron are also conjunct to the vertex and the descendant .the vertex gives strange coincides that are similar even though the people involved can be very different. Often there is a otherworldly or paranormal feeling between the two.

in addition pluto is conjunct to the node conjunct the IC.MC axis
this aspect can give communication in dreams.it also can show past life connections which seems to be the case here.this aspect and the vertex aspect can give a psychic connection also.
these aspects are augumented by the mercury/venus/sun stellium which is square to the uranus/Neptune conjunction . this series of aspects truly show a strong affection and mental/psychic/astral connection. common dreams and common future wishes are shown.

but to balance this out vertex aspects can be very unreliable when it comes to a "real" relationship. that is ,often the potential that one feels with vertex aspects is lost when the routines of a committed relationship come into play.

in a similar way the mercury et.al. stellium square to Uranus and Neptune can be too intense to integrate into a relationship. the energies are so high that when the initial bonding cools off, there is nothing left to build on.

that said, this is a very interesting composite because it has "super natural" vibrations yet also aspects that can stabilize a relationship.

in this case moon is trine to Saturn and juno loosely trine to Jupiter. both these aspects are very favorable for relationships.
the question is , will the coldness of the chiron/Saturn opposition negate the auspicious trines in the composite.

"Oh and in his natal chart his asteroid karma is conjunct to the asteroid of my name, that seemed interesting."

yes that is interesting but the substantiality of karma can be suspect at times.
but this conjunction certainly reflects the overall nature of this composite .

to tell the truth , I am a bit at the lack or words because I can't remember seeing such a karmic chart with a Saturn/Chiron opposition in the mix. usually Saturn/Chiron is red flag in a normal relationship but this is not a normal relationships so I am left in a bit of a quandary.

as he is off for a couple of years,what occurs in the interim will give you your answers.
the other worldly energies, if destined for completion ,should sustain the relationship during his absence. it is highly unlikely he will meet anyone else with such a karmic connection. I would also expect him to keep in constant contact if the connection between you is as "live; as it seems.

so if he does not keep in contact, then these strange energies simply could not sustain a real relationship.
but if he periodically do hear from him ,then there might be a significant union in the future . there is a strong affection and attraction which seems always to be necessary for a continuing relationship to flourish

todd

posted August 11, 2018 03:34 PM            

Also, since we are not romantic, nor I plan on developing it more than possible close friendship, does what you said still stand? How can there be such good Sun/Mercury/Venus position and that in 8th house, yet I feel no physical attraction at all? And where could it go with such positions if not romantic? Astrologically from your experience, is this friends/enemies/lovers/family karma chart? I feel attached, but not one bit romantically. Is it Saturn on Descendant binding us closer, no matter what kind of feelings?

And I do feel those stabilizing aspects you mentioned, because even though it's weird coincidences between us at times, it feels surprisingly normal and down to earth to an equal degree.

He already invited me to come visit him in Paris, but we'll see about that lol, he's 24/7 around people, hyper and unstoppable, so I don't really expect much contact, at least in first few months of him being away.

posted August 16, 2018 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by sunflowermoonflower:
Thank you, Todd, for such a thorough interpretation! I am interested in that Chiron-Saturn opposition. Why is that a red flag for relationships exactly and what could be its individual effect in this particular case?

Also, since we are not romantic, nor I plan on developing it more than possible close friendship, does what you said still stand? How can there be such good Sun/Mercury/Venus position and that in 8th house, yet I feel no physical attraction at all? And where could it go with such positions if not romantic? Astrologically from your experience, is this friends/enemies/lovers/family karma chart? I feel attached, but not one bit romantically. Is it Saturn on Descendant binding us closer, no matter what kind of feelings?

And I do feel those stabilizing aspects you mentioned, because even though it's weird coincidences between us at times, it feels surprisingly normal and down to earth to an equal degree.

He already invited me to come visit him in Paris, but we'll see about that lol, he's 24/7 around people, hyper and unstoppable, so I don't really expect much contact, at least in first few months of him being away.

I'm buying him Tropic Of Cancer (suitable to his wild nature and appropriate for Paris) as a farewell gift and I've seen him only twice in my life, this is so out of character for me honestly, I don't know what is happening haha.

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Saturn and chiron together are cold planets. Saturn is domineering and chiron is hyper critical . the affect is a need to control especially on the ascendant/descendant axis. a relationship needs compromise and these two symbols dominate and don't compromise readily.
as a non romantic relationship, this aspect would not be so bad and it might show constructive use of the critical and analytical faculty

"I thinkth the lady doth protest to much"

it is very difficult for me to accept you don't feel and emotional connection,especially with Uranus square to sun/venus/mercury. but I suppose with all the energy in the mental plane you could be blocking any emotional feelings. the Saturn/chiron opposition here could facilitate this emotional repression.
but repression it is and it may be the age difference that has you intellectually set against feeling emotional attraction.

the is another rather important pattern that i omitted which may well explain your quandary about him.

the chart hs what I have coined a "pyramid pattern" which consist of the the nodal axis plus pluto forming sextile/trines with mar and Uranus neptune. this pattern gives an inherent harmony between you.it shows sensitivity ,healing and in this case a psychic astral communication. there is a smoothness to the physical interaction that almost precludes and unfavorable feelings or interactions. by itself this aspect is attractive to the creative feelings engendered but is not necessarily a overtly sexual aspect. it might be similar to a psyche /eros attraction in which the feeling of innocent love/attraction devoid of carnal impulses brings pleasure in just being together and feeling each others breath. it can be very childlike in this way.ovbe with no physical desire.
but still with the venus/mercury/sun stellium square to Uranus and neptune there is a strong emotional.sexual level here.

the only way this makes sense tomeis that youhave been terribly betrayed in a previous love affair and in some ways he seems to ring a similar bell that tolled on your emotional destruction.

of course , the strange karmic vertex,ascednat,satrun,chrion pattern really lies at base of this relationship, so it is very complex on many level of reality

posted August 16, 2018 08:48 PM            

"I thinkth the lady doth protest to much"

Oh come on

"it might be similar to a psyche /eros attraction in which the feeling of innocent love/attraction devoid of carnal impulses brings pleasure in just being together and feeling each others breath. it can be very childlike in this way.ovbe with no physical desire."

It's exactly like that! Thus the thought of anything physical with him is strange and a turn off to me. I don't think I'm repressing honestly, because there's no resistance in my wonderment, I just genuinely don't find him sexually appealing and find it puzzling since everything else is good.

I like his mind and personality, and while we are maybe compatible emotionally, the sexual is nonexistent in my case. True he is a little bit more touchy-feely with me (never crossed completely into sexual territory) and I find it innocent and endearing. I don't mind when friends are close like that. Just like kids.

This is all new to me because I've never had these deeper connections, at least not with real life people, so I can't really navigate. Still I am suddenly meeting guys left and right and they react to me in similar way as this guy above.

For example the other day at an event I shook hands with my friend's "friend with benefits" and introduced myself and then we went our way and that was it. The next day the guy talked to my friend and wanted to know a lot about me. He said he just shook my hand and couldn't stop thinking about it until the morning. Like the guy is saying that to a girl he's having sex with. He said he can't even remember my face because when he took my hand he kind off zoned out into whatever he was feeling in that moment. At the said moment I just made a mental note "hm that was a good handshake" and thought no further about it.