posted September 24, 2018 03:29 PM            

Find below synastry and comp of a very deep same-sex friendship in an absolutely ****** place for the last year, perhaps about the last 14 months. It seems like no amount of honestly talking or profession of mutual respect and love helps. It's like there's a cold rock in the middle of it and we find ourselves resentful again in no time. It was excellent until about the time I mentioned above. We met in about 2009 I think. What happened to our friendship?

Please advise as to why! I miss having mindless closeness and chitchat with my friend so much! She is so important to me.

Here are the synastry & comp charts. Thanks everyone!

posted September 25, 2018 06:19 PM            

Honestly, the first thing I saw is the challenge of one's Libra Sun conjunct the other's Pluto, which opposes their natal Sun/Mars/Venus conjunction. Libra Sun is up against some fierce Aries energy to begin with, but then that Pluto is wreaking havoc left and right!!!! If you had just pluto there that would be one thing, but they are dealing with their own brand of seriously intense energy and that Libra Sun is caught in the ping pong battle.

In a sense you both have very martial energy, but from two totally different perspectives. Aries version of martial is very different than Scorpio's. One busts through like a bulldozer and the other slinks through and is sure that everyone is out to get them. The way you communicate is at odds here because of this. One is very bold and blunt and the other very cynical and untrusting, skeptical.

posted September 27, 2018 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Hi HT,
I am sorry to hear about this disconnect in your friendship.

Honestly, the first thing I saw is the challenge of one's Libra Sun conjunct the other's Pluto, which opposes their natal Sun/Mars/Venus conjunction. Libra Sun is up against some fierce Aries energy to begin with, but then that Pluto is wreaking havoc left and right!!!! If you had just pluto there that would be one thing, but they are dealing with their own brand of seriously intense energy and that Libra Sun is caught in the ping pong battle.

In a sense you both have very martial energy, but from two totally different perspectives. Aries version of martial is very different than Scorpio's. One busts through like a bulldozer and the other slinks through and is sure that everyone is out to get them. The way you communicate is at odds here because of this. One is very bold and blunt and the other very cynical and untrusting, skeptical.

It's just like salt in the wound, and you guys keep reopening it. But I feel like that could be navigated, it's the Pluto opposite stellium in one chart hitting the sun in the other that is the source of the struggle.

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Dear StoneMoon, hope you're well. You are exactly right in what you observed. I'm quietly wondering whether a particular transit made things particularly sucky. I don't give up on friendships easily at all. I will let things rest for a while and definitely try to revisit our communication. It's interesting when the forceful energy you mentioned was excellent for long years, before this. I'm having such a strange time with a number of relationships this year.

posted September 27, 2018 01:22 PM            

I will say that long friendships do go through a slump. If needs be, give it a break. It could be what the friendship could use or else you two are different people now.

Both of you are reeling from the Uranus transit too. So right now, don't focus so much on keeping hold of things because of nostalgia. But more on whether they serve you intrinsically.

If the friendship is deep,it will survive. Good friendships seldom die.

I have a friend that I thought was my best friend. We didn't talk for 3 years. But we reconnected and it just was not the same anymore.

Truth is that sometimes we evolve as people. And that even means that we can grow apart from those that we thought we would never be apart from.

posted September 27, 2018 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I won't go into astrology too much. But I noted a Sat/Asc double whammy between you two.

I will say that long friendships do go through a slump. If needs be, give it a break. It could be what the friendship could use or else you two are different people now.

Both of you are reeling from the Uranus transit too. So right now, don't focus so much on keeping hold of things because of nostalgia. But more on whether they serve you intrinsically.

If the friendship is deep,it will survive. Good friendships seldom die.

I have a friend that I thought was my best friend. We didn't talk for 3 years. But we reconnected and it just was not the same anymore.

Truth is that sometimes we evolve as people. And that even means that we can grow apart from those that we thought we would never be apart from.

Its a part of growing up I guess.

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Agree on all your points, Aries23Degrees, thanks for all the input. I do think though we don't get to have the free time to bond as much as we grow older, so close friendships are few and far between. Best try to find a balance between holding onto what isn't healthy and preserving what's valuable. The Sat&Asc you mention would be stabilizing though, right? Or restricting?

posted September 28, 2018 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Agree on all your points, Aries23Degrees, thanks for all the input. I do think though we don't get to have the free time to bond as much as we grow older, so close friendships are few and far between. Best try to find a balance between holding onto what isn't healthy and preserving what's valuable. The Sat&Asc you mention would be stabilizing though, right? Or restricting

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Saturn is like the border wall between Mexico and America that Trump is threatening to build

In that it does keep things out I.e Mexicans. But it also keeps things confined I.e Americans.

So at times Saturn is restrictive and at times stabilizing. But it depends on the context.

In you two parting, it could have unconsciously reached its "restrictive" part. Whilst when you two were connecting, it was in "stability" mode.

Every planet energy is a double edged sword. Saturn is no exception. Its usually a matter of keeping balance.

It is hard to find relationships as one gets older. Probably also because we get more specific about who we are and so we become less tolerant of pretending to be what we are not.

But herein lies the rub; in our newfound confidence is also the realization that the only best friend we will ever have, is OURSELVES.

The other people are there temporarily and leave. Some stay for years (making it seem like they will stay for lifetime) whilst others for months.

The trick is to allow yourself to keep your door open. Keep making quality contacts ofcourse but be careful that those contacts do not become a crutch that you lean on and call that "friendship" etc.