posted October 06, 2018 03:18 PM            

What could indicate this, and what are your personal experiences? What would make someone attracted to someone like this?

posted October 06, 2018 05:23 PM            

On the other hand some folks are just deviant and like to skirt closer to the boundaries of what is appropriate. But again, even that, I believe, is about control.

Astrologically, no idea.

2 cents.

ETA: we could also consider a streak of sociopathy. The destruction of innocence and goodness, due to one's own woundedness. Taking back what was taken. Assaulting society and those who appear who represent order and safety.

posted October 06, 2018 05:42 PM            

I'm mostly asking simply as what would make someone get off on this, judgement free. And I didn't depict the naive person as a victim even :P who knows, maybe they like it. Everyone has a right to their kink.

I'm not asking "what would make someone deviant prey on a poor innocent soul"

posted October 06, 2018 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
@Voix

I'm mostly asking simply as what would make someone get off on this, judgement free. And I didn't depict the naive person as a victim even :P who knows, maybe they like it. Everyone has a right to their kink.

I'm not asking "what would make someone deviant prey on a poor innocent soul"

I'm thinking of it more as being something more consensual between the two.

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posted October 16, 2018 09:14 AM            

Gemini tends to be into child-like looks but finds some experience therein attracting.

This reminds me of the legend of Persephone who was kidnapped by Pluto. I see this theme play out in real life of young girls/woman from a sheltered background being kidnapped or "taken" by dark,brooding guys.

Neptune people especially tend to fall on either side i.e either being the ones that are kidnapped. Or the ones doing the kidnapping etc.

Saturn/Cap can also be drawn to such. But I see it as less attractions to "inexperience" but more an attempt to disguise their own anxiety and nervousness with intimacy.

Often Caps can have a built in anxiety or insecurity when it comes to sex . So being attracted to someone who is inexperienced disguises that lack of confidence on their end(especially the men).

Sex can intimidate guys and lead to performance anxiety. And so sex with inexperienced virgins can be their saving grace because the girl in question has no idea on how the quality "should" be.

posted October 16, 2018 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Virgo,Pisces,Cap and Scorpio can be into that.

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posted October 16, 2018 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

This reminds me of the legend of Persephone who was kidnapped by Pluto. I see this theme play out in real life of young girls/woman from a sheltered background being kidnapped or "taken" by dark,brooding guys.

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The Ying Yang thing
Darkness versus Light

posted October 16, 2018 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Neptune people especially tend to fall on either side i.e either being the ones that are kidnapped. Or the ones doing the kidnapping etc.

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Okay that actually made me laugh for real...

posted October 16, 2018 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Saturn/Cap can also be drawn to such. But I see it as less attractions to "inexperience" but more an attempt to disguise their own anxiety and nervousness with intimacy.

Often Caps can have a built in anxiety or insecurity when it comes to sex . So being attracted to someone who is inexperienced disguises that lack of confidence on their end(especially the men).

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posted October 17, 2018 12:23 PM            

Also on the flip-side is a sensitive ego that prides itself on being a "lion" in bed. So there is pressure to be the porn(8th) star(Leo) and not disappoint. To be the best etc.

The reputation depends on being popular (Lib Mc)

My experience with Taurus,Virgo and Cap guys is that they usually are FANTASTIC in bed. I mean yummy,curl your toes kinda loving

posted October 17, 2018 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Probably no small dose of narcissism, or, an inferiority complex which generates the need to control, and therefore an attraction to the "ignorant" (in the true sense of the term) or malleable.

On the other hand some folks are just deviant and like to skirt closer to the boundaries of what is appropriate. But again, even that, I believe, is about control.

Astrologically, no idea.

2 cents.

ETA: we could also consider a streak of sociopathy. The destruction of innocence and goodness, due to one's own woundedness. Taking back what was taken. Assaulting society and those who appear who represent order and safety.

I could probably rumble about this for a while.

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well you took it to a weird dark place...

i can find the virgin thing cute, but only if theyre a bit older and still a virgin and and i'm not exclusively into that it's just a passing "thats kind of cute youre unique" kind of thing because i dont really understand how people stay virgins past their teens and that makes them interesting

never went after one though, mostly because i imagine unless they were really special it wouldnt be worth the trouble of how they would be feel on an emotional level about something like that

i wouldnt want to deal with that

and also because i never make the first move, never needed to, and if i had to put that sort of work in without it being a guarantee... idk... for that i just dont bother

i don't have strong enough preferences to care though (about their number of partners...or their gender, ethnicity etc), and it's not a lack of confidence because i'm perfectly comfortable having sex with multiple people at a time when the comparisons would be pretty easy to make

i just find it interesting when people stand out somehow, nothing in particular, just something

doesnt really matter, i'm not single anyway and havent been since i was a teenager (we were each other's first but that was never a thing for me with her)

posted October 17, 2018 11:38 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
There are a lot of men who are really only looking for a woman who will put up with their abuse because they lack the experience to know any better. Like if a man wants to string a woman along and feed her a bunch of lies it's not likely to be as successful with a woman that's 29 or 30 so they will scoff at those ladies and stick with 19 year olds. Eventually those 19 year olds waste a few years figuring out the hard way their mistake and leave him so he then goes out to find another naive 19 year old who will believe his crap. These are the men that most women know to avoid from the start, but naive women do not know it and that's why they like naive women. This isn't really indicative of men who like "virgins", but rather abusive men who like lording power over women.

Mars conjunct NN in the 12th often comes up in abusive men so that could be a thing.

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I agree, there are cases like that too, I feel the last guy I was with was one, he was 27 and his Ex fiancee was 19, he said younger women are willing to "try" but based on his need to be in control and selfish nature what I noticed is that he goes for younger bc they are stupid enough to date him until they are NOT. He may not realize it but that is exactly what it is.

posted October 17, 2018 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Calling the shots ...yes. Solar 8th house(sexuality) is in Leo. So I do see that as a possibility.

Also on the flip-side is a sensitive ego that prides itself on being a "lion" in bed. So there is pressure to be the porn(8th) star(Leo) and not disappoint. To be the best etc.

The reputation depends on being popular (Lib Mc)

My experience with Taurus,Virgo and Cap guys is that they usually are FANTASTIC in bed. I mean yummy,curl your toes kinda loving

But I also appreciate that there is a seriousness or "get it right" tone underneath. Seldom ever strictly playful.

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posted October 17, 2018 11:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

and also because i never make the first move, never needed to

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You Venus in libra folks LMAO, lucky bast*rds

hahaha

posted October 18, 2018 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You Venus in libra folks LMAO, lucky bast*rds ;)

hahaha

My ex has venus in libra, I walked up to him and kissed him at first sight but after a few hours he asked for my number so he did make a move but I made the first move indeed :laughing:

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it's a double edged sword really

i've had people who were touchy and grope me (like my fiancee before we started dating, she'll still tell me how obsessed with me she was) where i haven't cared and it's led to places that were fine

but i've also had issues with being groped and such at work or having people just kind of touch me or get weird in the street etc when it's been people i havent wanted near me like that at all

or my ex used to just go crazy on me over women standing too close to me and things like that

like i was on a train once, and i was really high on a few different things so i didnt notice this woman standing behind me practically spooning me in spite of all the space she had to be elsewhere until i turned around and accidentally brushed up against her

it actually scared me a little because i was so surprised but i found it funny, my fiancee found it funny

and then there was my ex who yelled at me about it and spent a while interrogating me about whether or not i found that woman attractive and so on for an entire night

i've had friends just start acting like we were dating and get possessive and aggressive over odd things like who i have sex with or me not telling them every detail of my life (ive had women in particular get like this where they start telling me they want every part of me and then start picking fights or doing weird things like starving themselves and telling me about it etc)

i get odd random offers for money in exchange for sex from old gay men in particular but not exclusively

or people i dont really know telling me they love me

i have a scrapbook that looks like something a serial killer made that an old friend gave me, she also used to write a lot of erotica centered on characters based on her hooking up with characters based on me (she was open about it) and so on

so sure every so often there's the person i get lucky with like my fiancee, or who i don't have any feelings about one way or another like my current fwbs who was persistant at first and just kind of shows up now and leaves his things here so he can keep coming back (which im not thrilled with but i also dont care enough to bother saying anything)

either way it's got its downsides

posted October 18, 2018 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

but i've also had issues with being groped and such at work or having people just kind of touch me or get weird in the street etc when it's been people i havent wanted near me like that at all

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OMG! Wow not cool.

posted October 18, 2018 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

or my ex used to just go crazy on me over women standing too close to me and things like that

like i was on a train once, and i was really high on a few different things so i didnt notice this woman standing behind me practically spooning me in spite of all the space she had to be elsewhere until i turned around and accidentally brushed up against her

it actually scared me a little because i was so surprised but i found it funny, my fiancee found it funny

and then there was my ex who yelled at me about it and spent a while interrogating me about whether or not i found that woman attractive and so on for an entire night

i've had friends just start acting like we were dating and get possessive and aggressive over odd things like who i have sex with or me not telling them every detail of my life (ive had women in particular get like this where they start telling me they want every part of me and then start picking fights or doing weird things like starving themselves and telling me about it etc)

i get odd random offers for money in exchange for sex from old gay men in particular but not exclusively

or people i dont really know telling me they love me

i have a scrapbook that looks like something a serial killer made that an old friend gave me, she also used to write a lot of erotica centered on characters based on her hooking up with characters based on me (she was open about it) and so on

so sure every so often there's the person i get lucky with like my fiancee, or who i don't have any feelings about one way or another like my current fwbs who was persistant at first and just kind of shows up now and leaves his things here so he can keep coming back (which im not thrilled with but i also dont care enough to bother saying anything)

either way it's got its downsides

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posted October 18, 2018 11:27 AM            

as a woman I'm always pursued and give off that naive, innocent vibe

my favorite type of men, are capricorn, aries and leos, and usually anybody who can act fatherly and mature and be a bit strict on me!...I also like men who get obsessive and possessive with me, like cancer and taurus!

I have moon in pisces
sun in taurus
mars and venus in cancer
saturn (in aqua) on DC

I have had relationships with younger guys who would treat me like I was their daughter lol

usually anybody I date ends up treating me like that

and they usually have both a strong jupiter and saturn in their charts

posted October 18, 2018 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel prevented him from developing fully, like his emotional development got stunted leading to attachment issues giving him an avoidant attachment style and not allowing him to feel at a deeper level emotions, he just knows how to survive it seems, he seems robotic to me. His sun does not aspect his moon or his mercury, his moon does not aspect his mercury either so that is just blank.

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Where is his SN? What you describe about attachment issues is almost always seen with men who have their moon conjunct their SN natally. It's generally a big attachment issue aspect. Especially if the moon is in a sign it's not that comfortable in.