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Topic: How Bad Is This?
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 08, 2018 04:28 PM
Hi guys!Been a long time since I've posted on here...need your input. I've recently met someone and it felt very fated, like we were supposed to be brought together. Definitely a familiarity there...More so I feel like I know/understand him without really knowing him that well, like I can feel if he is tired, stressed, anxious, etc...without it really be noted by other people. But my friend who looked at the chart said - don't event bother, just leave now because it's not gonna end up well. With so many oppositions and hard aspects, such as our Suns, Mercuries, and Moon Pluto and Venus Saturn being opposite, as well as our Moons squaring each other. So is it really such a bad synastry? I am blue, he is red chart. Thank you!! IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 09, 2018 12:51 PM
Anyone can give me input, please?IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10713 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2018 01:56 PM
Can you post both Davison and Composite too? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10713 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2018 01:59 PM
Also can you post synastry again without the asteroids, so I can see it more clearly, you can keep the one you have up too..Thanks.IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 41 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted October 09, 2018 02:22 PM
Sun conjunct Ascendant ...IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 09, 2018 02:28 PM
Thank you, Hypatia!Synastry, No Asteroids Composite Davison
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 09, 2018 02:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by SeaGoat: Sun conjunct Ascendant ...
Hi SeaGoat! Is this significant? Something that would override the negative aspects? IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1113 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 09, 2018 04:30 PM
Do you like him enough to want to pursue a relationship and see where it goes?Shame if you didn't based on a stranger's opinion. Only you know how it feels to be with him/around him in real life. No one can tell you with absolute certainty how a relationship will play out based on the charts. You can only speculate this early. Why not give it a shot? Listen to your heart and follow your instincts. IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 09, 2018 05:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: Do you like him enough to want to pursue a relationship and see where it goes?Shame if you didn't based on a stranger's opinion. Only you know how it feels to be with him/around him in real life. No one can tell you with absolute certainty how a relationship will play out based on the charts. You can only speculate this early. Why not give it a shot? Listen to your heart and follow your instincts.
Yes, of course it makes sense not to rely on someone else's opinion and follow my own gut feeling. But I am still interested in seeing how our synastry plays out into it. There is truth to certain things that astrology has to offer and I've had many experiences where it would prove time and time again. I like him very much but let's just say that he has a reputation....don't want to get too much into it, it's personal stuff and I don't want to disclose it. So that makes me a bit wary. Also, I had a very bad experience with someone a few months ago, where he literally crushed and burned me to the ground, while I was following my heart. So again, I am on here hoping to get some insights on how much we are compatible astrology wise and it's something that I like to look at when meeting someone new but of course I don't make it into a deciding factor whether or not I will pursue a particular person. IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 10, 2018 12:10 PM
Good morning, All!Would someone please offer any insights? Thank you! IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 11, 2018 12:15 PM
bumpHypatia, Todd, anyone?? IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 12, 2018 12:13 PM
Guys, anyone please?? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 13, 2018 03:05 AM
Sometimes bad relationships have to happen to learn and experience. Especially in out early days.Some people like the intensity and challenge. Where the threshold lies for each person's enjoyment of challenge is subjective. Having said that, I look at this synastry and say yeah, nah, I'd not pursue it: Venus opposite Mars with Jupiter exacerbating that by t-square Pluto opposite Moon Moons square.. Suns opposite, with Pluto conjunct one of those Suns Pluto on the SN Venus square Neptune.. Nope.. no way. It's a def no from me. You're going to have a baad time for a long-term thing, if that was what you were thinking. It wouldn't go long term anyhow. But, if you pursued you'll "learn" a lot: you'd learn what never to do again Why not just be friends?
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 15, 2018 01:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Sometimes bad relationships have to happen to learn and experience. Especially in out early days.Some people like the intensity and challenge. Where the threshold lies for each person's enjoyment of challenge is subjective. Having said that, I look at this synastry and say yeah, nah, I'd not pursue it: Venus opposite Mars with Jupiter exacerbating that by t-square Pluto opposite Moon Moons square.. Suns opposite, with Pluto conjunct one of those Suns Pluto on the SN Venus square Neptune.. Nope.. no way. It's a def no from me. You're going to have a baad time for a long-term thing, if that was what you were thinking. It wouldn't go long term anyhow. But, if you pursued you'll "learn" a lot: you'd learn what never to do again Why not just be friends?
Thank you for your input, Sassaqua. I don't think being friends is going to be an option or easy...you know how it is when there is an obvious attraction/pull between two people. You can't just be friends...that attraction will always be there, even if unspoken, it's felt...And yes, it's like you said, some like the intense relationships...being a Scorp ASC and having Scorp Venus, I crave the intensity and a deep bond and connection on all levels with a man, otherwise it will be too boring/surfacy for me. Having said that, is there anything that's good in our chart? Like anything that can outweigh/cancel out the difficult aspects? Or it's really the case of bad being so prevailing over the good? And I always thought that having Venus opposite Mars was actually a good thing because it creates that magnetic pull and chemistry between people, no? Also, I am not sure where you saw Pluto on SN. And Pluto on Sun. It's like 7 degrees apart and I read here that it's only tight proximity of like 1-3 degrees, max 5 degrees, otherwise it's not significant. Thank you advance for anyone who can shine the light on this situation!
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 15, 2018 05:39 PM
Yes, my error - it's Pluto on the NN. Your Sun is there too - is your Sun even aspected?Don't think your Mars is aspected either. And Venus on the SN. And his Eros on your SN. It's a weighing up process - there is some good but overall there is too many barriers for MY taste.
But, having said that, people still do it. They still try relationships like this. I think age (development stage in life) has a lot of relevance. When younger how to do relationships is part of that time in life. I have a friend who had some of the worst synastry I've ever seen. They were in love, stayed together for years. Saw her recently and she was disheveled and looked worn out. These, in my opinion, are the costs. I'm sure she learned a lot though and loved him. Why I said be friends because that way you can take it slowly and learn who you are individually first. That way it protects the relationship, before you get into the slinging matches and confusions that come from so many challenging aspects in the relationship. I find it curious that neither of your Uranuses are aspected. That's pretty interesting It will likely add a sparkle and and sense of intrigue for each other in the early stages. That's really all I can say. Keep us updated though
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CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 15, 2018 06:17 PM
Since I am pretty clueless in astrology and have no knowledge of how to interpret the angles, other than knowing about main planets and what they represent, I turned on here...hoping to hear what all that means, like the stuff you mentioned - NN/Pluto, SN/Venus, SN/Eros. What are they? Are those good or bad aspects?And also, someone previously mentioned that we have Sun/ASC aspect but I don't know what that means. And then there is a Sun/Moon connection and I remember seeing on here that it's supposed to be a good aspect but how significant is it?? I guess what I am trying to see is if we have enough positive aspects going between us. It can't all be bad, right? I do know though that Moon squares and Moon/Pluto aren't good ones :/ but what about other angles that we have like Venus/Jupiter, Sun/Moon - do they count? And I added asteroids which I know some people dislike but then again it gives an overall theme. I noticed his Osiris as well as Union and Psyche having aspects, and you already mentioned Eros....again I have no idea what that means if anything at all... Someone previously requested that I post Composite and Davison but I never received any feedback and I don't know what those charts represent.
Can someone elaborate on any of the stuff above? I would really appreciate it! IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 15, 2018 06:24 PM
Oh and we are in our 40's since you Sassaqua keep mentioning early days/younger age. Both have had some pretty significant relationships before (I've been married before, he hasn't though), so the hope here is that both of us have evolved and are mature enough to know how to handle disagreements, arguments, sticky situations, etc.IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 15, 2018 06:35 PM
It's always worth mentioning age because other people also seek understanding from reading these threads.Those aspects mentioned are easy to search for. Also, do you know his TOB? If not then the angles are not certain. First, we look at planets, not asteroids. Roids are subtle and come to play after planets, generally. If those planets are challenged it only makes it worse if they are on angles anyhow. Composites, Davison's.. they tend to come later anyhow. when the relationships is established.. Again, generally. It's still fun, and worthwhile looking at these when the synastry is 50/50. I don't see anything very good here, as already mentioned. I believe it's passed the 50/50 mark. But again, people have different thresholds for challenge. You'd have to look at the natals for that. I would take things very slowly with synastry like this. And, as you are in your 40s you'd be more equipped to do so. Keep us posted as to how things go IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 15, 2018 07:00 PM
You don't see anything good here, wow...OK. Thank you anyways for your input Anyone else can offer their interpretation? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 15, 2018 07:11 PM
I'm synthesising what I see.There are some "good things"of course, like: the Venus conjunct Jupiter, and trine his Mercury. Your Saturn trine his Mars too (I'm just following the blue lines here ). But ultimately the bad outweighs in my opinion. I'm ok with a few challenges, it creates difference. But I'd be wary of the high alert aspects already mentioned. Hopefully, someone else can provide you with some more insights. Let us know IP: Logged |
CuriousV Knowflake Posts: 246 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 16, 2018 03:44 PM
Thank you again, Sassaqua...Hypatia - you asked me to post additional charts which I did but you never gave me your thoughts on them...would you please loot at them when you have a chance? Thank you! IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted October 21, 2018 04:51 AM
I'm no expert, but thought I'd chime in here... My chart ruler being Mercury, for me personally that is a soft spot and anyone making some sort of mercurial aspect it almost feels otherworldly. Weird I know. That being said, his chart ruler - Virgo (Mercury), sextiles your Venus. (had a Mercury Venus conjunction with someone. I think it was what most attracted me to him) and it opposes your Mercury in Virgo (!) and Saturn. Not sure how 'romantic' Saturn would feel here, but Saturn is his 5th house (of romance) ruler so highly likely. And it's placed in his eighth house (Pluto being its natural ruler) together with Mars and Moon so he may just like the opposing Pluto to his moon. However I think the fact that Saturn being in his eighth house too he may prefer a rather 'tamed' sort? But then again, Pluto within your own chart is in your 12th house so it might be just the right amount of Pluto 'tamedness' he's into. And your Scorpio rising which is directly opposite his Mars/Saturn from his obsessive 8th house he may love that obsessiveness within you as well. And that means his Mars - your ascendant ruler is on your descendant. This you can kinda use to explain the type of mercurial feeling he's likely into by comparing it to the obsessive/deep type of connection you're into - by looking to the ascendant and ruler. And Jupiter - his descendant ruler is exactly conjunct your Venus - your descendant ruler. Bingo. And Jupiter is your 5th house ruler as well so it might just be the aspect you're looking for to your Venus in order for it to feel romantic to you. Honestly to me it really doesn't seem as bad, you seem to be hitting his soft spots and he yours. But then again I might just be (somewhat of) a novice but based on my own experience the rest of the planets in my chart other than my significant ones I don't necessarily identify with. I've had several people's Sun precisely at my descendant and someone's sun directly opposite my sun moon midpoint and I honestly felt nothing. Seems to me like anyone's sun aspect to my personal planets is just meh. Well it's in my 12th house natally so that would explain it. But anyway, I'd say go for it. Good luck IP: Logged |
Brenda_S Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted October 21, 2018 05:20 AM
Lemme just add, the yin yang energies and planets is something I like to focus on as well. Cuz say someone might be very plutonian might be similar to another of such sort. But the fact that both are forward energies would make it really too much. But say someone with an obsessive emotional nature and the other one exuding it would make a perfect yin yang coupling. There's the masculine and feminine even though both are masculine plutonian energies. One's receptive to what the other has to offer. Same the opposite. Someone might be very emotional. Being with someone just as emotional... Not good. But someone being emotionally in tune and forward with that person's needs... You get it I'm sure. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 21, 2018 06:10 AM
Yay! Someone else chimed in!The more people who put their analysis is the more we all learn. Thanks Brenda_S
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todd Knowflake Posts: 2035 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted October 23, 2018 04:01 PM
hi CuriousVthe node with the sun definitely gives the sense of "karma: because this aspect can show a different reality seems to develop arou you when togeterr.it can feel like an energy thing between you and often friends will note how significantly you affect others bt your "closeness".it gives a subtle psychihc sense with shows by having similar intuitions about matters.you know where conversations are going etc. I don't get optimistic feelings at all. the sun/moon midpoint square to Uranus which does bode well for longevity. initially very exciting bit unstable. the moon triune to Saturn does give a steadiness. but hard aspects can affect this trine such as the pluto/Saturn square. this is particulary difficult because the orb is only 4 arc seconds which mans it is very powerful and will be one of the aspects that affect the destiny of the "relationship". this aspect is extremely cold and distant. it shows the male to be preoccupied nd selfish.this aspect could be considered "bad" but with the sun/venus midpoint opposed to Saturn and square to pluto , there is clearly a domineering dynamic by him Jupiter is square to the node and the sun which is can be a marriage indicator if there are other emotionally sustain aspects. here venus us trine to Jupiter so the are attractive feelings between you. though these aspects can show a friendship or workplace companion by themselves.in addition moon is semi quare to venus giving a lively emotional connection, though a little rough at times.this aspect needs onstant attention to keep the loving feelings intact.
the tsquare of moon/mercury/Neptune can be problematic as it can show deception and holding back feelings. it tends to also give vibrancy to the mental connection, Neptune can be very opaque at times .the mars/venus mid[point is opposed to chiron. this is very difficult. if the relationship hadmany loving and supportive aspects then it might show as a itimate desire to know each other hearts inside and out.to know each others responses. but her there is adverbial feeling. marsis square toUranus which show he has astrong will and independence . wit these influences he will be more likely to criticize you... for your good.it could evolve into attacking your self worth. I don't see a supporter here ,I see a user.the Jupiter square to node and sun now takes on more significance as a marriage may be in the parrying between you. with mars square to Uranus and moon aspected with Saturn. I get the feeling he is younger than you and it seems he is pushing for a marriage. Jupiter whether it is a marriage or not, Jupiter square to the node is suggestive of financial substance.and this is part of the relationship dynamics. todd
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