posted October 22, 2018 08:06 AM            

Maybe people are reluctant to interpret without the whole chart.

posted October 22, 2018 09:06 AM            

But ok, I'll post it. I am putting some asteroids...^^

I don't know his exact birth time. In this pic, I am the blue one. He is red

posted October 22, 2018 09:41 AM            

And.. ohh.. I so know what you mean about that.

posted October 22, 2018 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by rzgemini:
[B]Actually I am not really comfortable to post the whole synastry, since bad past experience when I let negative aspects played out in my relationships, I become paranoid. Especially in this synastry we have hard saturn aspects.

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I so empathize, but please fight this sentiment! Astrology and future-based anxiety really do not mix well sometimes. I try to ground myself in the present, remind myself how everyone's respective insights are funneled through their own experiences and changing moods. Energies that absolutely do not work for other people work for me. Other times, I find I am bored senseless by aspects others deem "ideal" and universally desirable.

NN-Asc and SN-Sun sound great to me actually. It should both impel you forward, and with comfort. Depends on other aspects too of course, and the maturity of the individuals involved - the customary warning to every interpretation.

posted October 22, 2018 06:48 PM            

I think forewarned can provide some tools to navigate and protect the relationship.

Ok so.. going through your synastry - (have I already done this btw, lol). h.. no, I was thinking of this one: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/008269.html

These are the placements that stand out for me for attraction:

His Venus in your 4H
Mars in your 1st
NN on Ascendant
Sun on your SN
Ruler of your DC on his Jupiter

You both have Moon close to Pluto in the natal - creates sympathy and a recognition.

Looking at the aspects though... yeah.. I see what you mean.

Ohh.. his Mars.. yowzers.

Your closest aspects too are:
Mars square Saturn, and Neptune*
Venus opposite Saturn and Neptune*
Sun conjunct SN
NN conjunct Asc
Moon incon Sun (time dependent) - you have quite a few of those "minor" aspects that can really get under the skin. And here, they are much with both your luminaries, which refers to a theme about your Males and Female polarities.

Mercury sextile Venus and Pluto
Venus trine Pluto

Ohh..I just see that little party of your two Venuses with Chiron.. IN THAT t-square.

From this I can understand your concern:
First, mostly some very tense aspects
In a T-square with some of the powerful and most antithetical combinations (Mars-Sat, Venus in the mix blocks love and Nep reels yo back in, or keeps you in an anesthetized fog)
Also, that they are the tightest orbs, they will be the GO-TO in the relationships. Creating much friction, tension.. but also, attraction. Attraction to resolve the tensions and come to a place of love. Challenging aspects don't mean no love
Also that both of your Jupiters are inflaming everything

Hard times come from being locked in that T-square. Of which, is really painful and feels like the pain that only true love can bring.

The dynamic of the t-square is: rejection, cold shouldering, and being insistent, competitive and demanding. Relief from these hard times comes through talking about things, listening with no judgement, and also activating tenderness through the Neptune AND also, re routing those tense aspects involving the Venus end and sending them over to the Moons and Plutos, where also Neptune can soothe things down. When this happens, it brings dramatic reuniting that feels a deep sense of core reconciliation and that you are once again together where you should be.

But, to do so.. takes quite some effort. And also a niggling fear that it's all a bit hopeless and you're both kidding yourselves, but still, it is "fated". While you await for the next time the stress aspects come around.. and you go through the cycle again.

A lot of this chart is truly challenging. His Mars like that is a worry. HOWEVER, I just noticed your Sun quintile to his Mars. This is a great aspect, that may bring some special-ness feeling to his Mars. But, it's not enough. That Mars in your first house will vent toward you. Also, they do say that NN on AC isn't necessarily friendly (this is in Vedic astrology - do a search for rahu on ascendant). South node on Sun isn't great either. Especially too, that Sun (his) doesn't have many great aspects in the synastry, it could become drained and then feel resentful..

As I say, forewarned is forearmed. I would take this soo slowly.. with many time periods away to gain perspective. And also rejuvenate my own self and life to ensure I stay grounded and keep perspective, and boundaries.

But - I think that's HARD because of the Moons and Pluto, and his NN on your AC

Much depends on NATAL charts. The way I deal with things these days, I check situations against standards. In this situation I would ask myself why I would accept great tension and conflict. Because, I know what's in my natal chart: my Venus is challenged, and so some self esteem issues exist with me that can delay me walking away. Coupled with a fiery Mars that too, that likes a challenge and to get to the bottom of things. These days I implement standards for myself and space.

There are some issues there it's undeniable. The question is just, then, what are your strategies for managing them?

posted October 22, 2018 09:35 PM            

You can tell I have fear of infidelity and violence...and..(should I say this again ^^' ) I am practicing chastity, so maybe that's one of the factors why my saturn square his mars?

posted October 22, 2018 09:49 PM            

Is it his side and yours? Yes, the tension is on both sides.

It's important to keep in mind that, an abuser is just as "attracted" to a potential victim. As is a person who is attracted by love and kindness.

Do not read that I am labeling him an as abuser though. I don't know if one person is pursuing the other here. Nor do I know his natal chart.

If you already have abuse/violence issues, your radar might be off though, as you may be already "ok" with such high tension, and conditioned to accepting such high tension as normal.

No, I did not know that you had those issues. But, considering how challenged (and that's a diplomatic term) the synastry is. It's open to question that perhaps you are not seeing red flags.

Sorry, I say this with kindness and also frankness so nothing is misinterpreted and the pertinent points are clear.

Edit: I just saw that you posted the composite. If you feel like it, you can post your Davison to have a look at at some stage too

posted October 22, 2018 10:57 PM            

I don't have personal experience from abuse relationships,it is from something I see from around me. So I become cautious...

posted October 23, 2018 04:49 AM            

Good for you. Just keep wits about yourself.