posted October 26, 2018 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Wow, powerful composite.
You guys probably got super close, super fast lol
I see a lot of passion and intimacy/closeness, but many some conflicts at times or power struggles etc. Looks like a solid long-term potential as well with the Saturn trines and all the fixed energy.
Overall a really really strong chart, I think you found “the one”.

But you should post the synasty as well

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posted October 26, 2018 07:41 AM            

Him:


and our synastries:

posted October 27, 2018 12:05 PM            

Then you have Venus conjunct Uranus and Moon: I love venus conjunct Moon in Davison, I feel that feels like pure unconditional love with moon opposite jupiter balancing out some of the excessive intensity from sun conjunct pluto. Moon opposite jupiter helps with you guys keeping things fun and light so you can repair more quickly when you have issues etc. It also means you care for each other a lot.

posted October 27, 2018 07:42 PM            

Uranus is in the mid point between that Moon and Venus. This is the intensity. Uranus is a barrier there between these two personal love planets that would create the deeper intimacy. But, you can navigate this more than others because of your Aquarian disposition.

Uranus can be competitive though. It can draw people to outdo each other with extreme, random, bizarre and eccentric behaviour. Not forgetting rebelliousness. This planet is in between the planets that would otherwise want to be cozy with each other and find rest.

Also, the Davison Jupiter opposite is inflaming (expanding, enlarging) that tension there. Of which too, your natal Mars is conjunct. So, it will inflame you too. I haven't looked at his. Jupiter energy though is something that he can relate to and understand, being the Sag that he is. He can understand the outbursts of energy and can easily forgive and move on.

In that Davison, Jupiter is EXACT opposite Neptune though. Neptune is closely conjunct Saturn. So, we have the soft fog of of dreamy "it was meant to be" Neptune, being "bigger than life" (Jupiter) and the "I don't want to let go of you, let's see this through" - Saturn. For good or bad, and maybe actually in principle only and not in reality. Because again, that Moon and Venus potential intimacy is being interrupted by Uranus.

These planets, including your natal Mars and the Davison Jupiter, are hitting the midpoint (see in the composite) of the natal Moons, exacerbating the emotions. And closely opposite too, and again, Neptune and Saturn (in the composite still). So, the theme of illusion and sticking at it prevails so far. Uranus is close by again.

But, what's important here is the degrees - all mentioned so far above, these dynamics are really tight orbs. And, again, with your natal Mars too. And your Sun: a fairly tight t-square then exists here. Your natal t-square prevails in the Davison. As it will with every relationship you have with this same generation. I would think this is a big thing to consider.

So, underscoring again the condition of your natal Mars - it's opposite Uranus/Nep, and as expected, it's the same as the Davidson. His, funnily enough, is square Saturn (wide conjunct Jupiter, look out). These challenging themes in the natals with the big guys prevail in the Davison (Saturn, Neptune, Uranus).

And, you both have Mars square Sun in your natals. So, you can both see and relate to the the ego frustrations and competition you both have in your natals. And you bounce off each other, haughty posturing and power struggles. Which is not a bad thing, depending on other dynamics..

It would be good if you could both find relief from these tensions with your natal Mars, and squares of your Suns, with each other, via your respective water Mars and Venus. But the orbs are quite wide to reach each other!

It's a very Marsy dynamic overall. Which is not bad, and I believe as an Aqua and a Sag it's definitely ok. But still, the body (via the Moon and Venus) at some stage needs downtime and rest. I ask whether you get that rest with each other? A genuine question. Because I imagine that you can with the easy flow from the Moon to the Sun. Just, the tenser aspects are tighter orbs and I wonder that they have a habit of bouncing you both around and derailing the downtime you may otherwise need build the trust and intimacy.

This is a big one - His NN is opposite your Sun. But, only KIND OF triggering the 4th leg of that t-square you have and providing the (potential) stability in the grand square/cross. But, it is wide. And, it is not real.. because your Sun is then on his SN. And, it's only his NN - if it was a planet it COULD provide that stability (but through thick and thin - ie, you may get stuck in it all and can't get out).

In this nodal axis there's a potential drain here that I don't have time to go into.. but, something like: he often benefits from you being riled up because he gets a growth hit? Something in the relationship that would add value for him as a Sag more than others. Which again, provides commitment from him. But how draining is it for you?

Also, your NN is on his Sun.. Again a bit wide but still enough to feel the pull.

With your t-square, you will need someone who can handle, aspect-wise, your Mars opposition.. Someone that can release and sooth that tension.

I do get a nice feeling from this though. There are definitely growth and karmic themes for sure. I think there also exists a friendship and respect between you both.

I was not systematic with what I looked at but went with what jumped out. While I was eating my breakfast

posted October 28, 2018 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
Hypatia- yes that moon conjunct venus an opp jupiter does keep things fun and light amongst all that intensity. We love each other but he deff feels it more. It may be the moo conjunct saturn that kinda makes us a bit more cooler and grounded esp in public but it's very intense none the less

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Interesting! Thanks for feedback.

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
We drive each other nuts and sometimes want to choke each other(no violence)but we forgive each other easily. When things are good it's either fun and thrilling or tranquil and when it's bad ugh. Too intense. Emotions run high and i hope it wont lead us to separate because of how intense it gets.

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You do have Mars conjunct Mercury on the AC with the AC at the midpoint of the Mars/Mercury. The relationship brings out the aggressive and argumentative sides in both of you but there is also a lot of good there worth fighting for so over time you can get better fighting, you just each have work at this as a couple.

posted October 28, 2018 03:54 AM            

Mars is to learn how to argue and assert for your needs openly, and without fear.

Mars is also about getting what one wants and asserting the self, generally. Protecting and asserting boundaries (on behalf of Saturn) and service to the self.

Because you both have that challenged Mars to Saturn in your natals, and with the oppositions (you at least - I haven't looked much at his), it's a new road for both of you to feel free to speak out and fight for what you want in an effective way. Without feeling retribution or anything else bad coming back at you in return.

posted October 28, 2018 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
The Davison -

Uranus is in the mid point between that Moon and Venus. This is the intensity. Uranus is a barrier there between these two personal love planets that would create the deeper intimacy. But, you can navigate this more than others because of your Aquarian disposition.

Uranus can be competitive though. It can draw people to outdo each other with extreme, random, bizarre and eccentric behaviour. Not forgetting rebelliousness. This planet is in between the planets that would otherwise want to be cozy with each other and find rest.
Yes, we can be VERY competitive its ridiculous.

In that Davison, Jupiter is EXACT opposite Neptune though. Neptune is closely conjunct Saturn. So, we have the soft fog of of dreamy "it was meant to be" Neptune, being "bigger than life" (Jupiter) and the "I don't want to let go of you, let's see this through" - Saturn. For good or bad, and maybe actually in principle only and not in reality. Because again, that Moon and Venus potential intimacy is being interrupted by Uranus.
Yeah. We definitely fought over major stuff but we couldn't let go over each other and got over it. Or times when I was about to leave he had some major emotional crisis or events where he needed me so I stayed . I'm sure it's that Saturn glue along with Jupiter and Neptune making it seem meant to be

So, underscoring again the condition of your natal Mars - it's opposite Uranus/Nep, and as expected, it's the same as the Davidson. His, funnily enough, is square Saturn (wide conjunct Jupiter, look out). These challenging themes in the natals with the big guys prevail in the Davison (Saturn, Neptune, Uranus).

Wouldn't the wide conjunction to his jupiter be positive though because it squares Saturn??

And, you both have Mars square Sun in your natals. So, you can both see and relate to the the ego frustrations and competition you both have in your natals. And you bounce off each other, haughty posturing and power struggles. Which is not a bad thing, depending on other dynamics..

It would be good if you could both find relief from these tensions with your natal Mars, and squares of your Suns, with each other, via your respective water Mars and Venus. But the orbs are quite wide to reach each other!
We workout together and lots of bedroom activities hehe

It's a very Marsy dynamic overall. Which is not bad, and I believe as an Aqua and a Sag it's definitely ok. But still, the body (via the Moon and Venus) at some stage needs downtime and rest. I ask whether you get that rest with each other? A genuine question. Because I imagine that you can with the easy flow from the Moon to the Sun. Just, the tenser aspects are tighter orbs and I wonder that they have a habit of bouncing you both around and derailing the downtime you may otherwise need build the trust and intimacy.
We do have downtime fortunately. As much adventures we go out on and dumb fights we have we plan days to just chillax at home. Thanks to me hes gotten so much beteye at it. He used ro be always on the go and high on thrill off alcohol or drugs but hes improved. Might be Pluto tho . But yes all that mars gives us energy and excitement to always wanna do something fun.

In this nodal axis there's a potential drain here that I don't have time to go into.. but, something like: he often benefits from you being riled up because he gets a growth hit? Something in the relationship that would add value for him as a Sag more than others. Which again, provides commitment from him. But how draining is it for you?
Yes, he always wants to be out and about. Especially with his drinking and drug addictions but I've definitely hot him outtabyhat rut and hes gotten better at staying home with me. So yes it used to be super draining .

Also, your NN is on his Sun.. Again a bit wide but still enough to feel the pull.

With your t-square, you will need someone who can handle, aspect-wise, your Mars opposition.. Someone that can release and sooth that tension.

I do get a nice feeling from this though. There are definitely growth and karmic themes for sure. I think there also exists a friendship and respect between you both.

I was not systematic with what I looked at but went with what jumped out. While I was eating my breakfast

I will look more soon.

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posted October 28, 2018 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
The Davison -

Uranus is in the mid point between that Moon and Venus. This is the intensity. Uranus is a barrier there between these two personal love planets that would create the deeper intimacy. But, you can navigate this more than others because of your Aquarian disposition.

Uranus can be competitive though. It can draw people to outdo each other with extreme, random, bizarre and eccentric behaviour. Not forgetting rebelliousness. This planet is in between the planets that would otherwise want to be cozy with each other and find rest.

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Yes I was concern about uranus been there but uranus is also the sign of friendship but it is erratic and rebellious, I would think that sometimes the moon and venus find each other and get cozy as you so awesomely put it! LOL but that it depends on the mood uranus is in so yes is like a barrier in that it would cause inconsistency in the moon and venus coming together but I would think they would also have times were those two come together and get cozy and they can enjoy that. Ideally it would have been nice if uranus was not there causing havoc

posted October 28, 2018 12:36 PM            

That could explain the intense fights and how you feel like choking each other at times even though you don't act on it.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted October 28, 2018 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sassa so you are saying that bc their mars is afflicted with saturn they have a hard time been assertive so their fights go from a passive style of communication to an aggressive style of communication. I guess yes this relationship with Mars conjunct Mercury on the AC in Davison is about learning to be assertive and fight fairly. Fascinating how all the charts come together.

That 3rd house stellium with neptune conjunct saturn there is showing you have to work on been clear when you communicate, specially when you consider it sextiles mercury on the AC which conjuncts Mars. It seems that if you get good at been clear with each other and assertive you will avoid the big blow ups. Neptune kind of makes it challenging to be clear head on, often evading/avoiding perhaps to avoid conflict until you can't and then bam you all blow up. But saturn is the teacher here so with it sextile mercury I feel you are meant to figure this out and learn to communicate and fight better.

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Ah yes. Being clear is something we need to work on but its gotten better. And we dont blow up on each other as much. Been a year together now

posted October 28, 2018 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
Yes we love going on adventures and doing new things. Whether its thrilling or cooking up a new recepie. Hmm we never had anything shocking that comes between us that's a huge deal breaker. We are best friends. Our relationship is highly Uranian. I'm mexican, with dark ski. and dark hair. Hes caucasian red head blue eyes dude. We are very different from each other but I think we like it that way.

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I feel that venus/uranus/moon stellium with jupiter in the 9th opposing that is manifesting that way. I feel you feel at home together even though you have a different ethnic background and you feel at home when you do new things together and have adventures together, that strong sense of love based on friendship is also manifesting with that stellium.

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Originally posted by Aqualilith09:
Ah yes. Being clear is something we need to work on but its gotten better. And we dont blow up on each other as much. Been a year together now

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Look at that just a year and you two have already made progress in growing in that area!

posted October 29, 2018 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sassa so you are saying that bc their mars is afflicted with saturn they have a hard time been assertive so their fights go from a passive style of communication to an aggressive style of communication. I guess yes this relationship with Mars conjunct Mercury on the AC in Davison is about learning to be assertive and fight fairly. Fascinating how all the charts come together.

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hypatia238,

Your question - yes they have a hard time being assertive is how I put it. It's hard though, because language is slippery; assertive can be done and interpreted in various ways. While Saturn challenge Mars indicated this, I try to not just look at one aspect either. I mean, there may be a great aspect to Mercury, or great aspects between Saturn and Moon, or Moon and Mercury etc (almost infinitely), which will give some weight to being able to communicate needs/wants and being "assertive".

How it manifests with Mars/Saturn is a repressed build up. Saturn is about boundaries, and Mars is too then, when called to act in service to Saturn asserting "his" boundaries. But, with a challenged aspect, basically (as is said in the literature) Saturn becomes fearful. And the Mars energy, it becomes defused when slowed down, rather than pointed and spontaneous.. this manifests as what we know, or rather what we interpret as "angry".

I think going from passive style to aggressive, may be describing more the opposition in particular? We have a square here and an inconjunct (if I remember correctly). So these are more festering in nature, as I interpret it. But with all aspect there's a bit of each in all I think anyhow?

Yes, it's amazing isn't it? Some chart interactions just have a recurring theme that runs everywhere. Even, sometimes in the natals too. Some themes with some couples are more subtle than others too. Some couples have no themes also. And this doesn't mean there's nothing there between the two people either.

posted October 29, 2018 06:47 PM            

I'll look further soon (studying for exams atm)

Edit: notice that your natal Mercury is not aspected in your chart. His Venus is closely assisting your Mercury in the synastry. I haven't looked closer at this though.

Also, it is your chart with the Mars oppositions. So, is it you that is going back and forward with the asserting/passive?

Just putting it out there. I thought it was interesting to see your Mercury. It is fairly unusual and special because of the speed at which Mercury travels, so therefore significant to note and consider. As anything that aspects it (including the Davison) will be super lit.

posted October 30, 2018 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Ok thanks. Natals come into it too.. (eg, see edit below)

I'll look further soon (studying for exams atm)

Edit: notice that your natal Mercury is not aspected in your chart. His Venus is closely assisting your Mercury in the synastry. I haven't looked closer at this though.

Also, it is your chart with the Mars oppositions. So, is it you that is going back and forward with the asserting/passive?

Just putting it out there. I thought it was interesting to see your Mercury. It is fairly unusual and special because of the speed at which Mercury travels, so therefore significant to note and consider. As anything that aspects it (including the Davison) will be super lit.

And, also, you didn't answer - do you two get that down time with eachother? I am wondering for my own learning here.

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