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Ami Anne
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posted March 10, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It was the strangest thing.
If there is an opposite to simpatico, this would be it.
My unaspected Venus was squared by all sorts of planets.
I could FEEL it.
I could feel the squares.
Has anyone "felt" squares before?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 10, 2011 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I have other relationships where the luminaries square .
I can feel that,too.
I cannot see myself in a romantic relationship or even a friendship with strong squares to key parts of my chart.
I have no squares or oppositions in my chart except for one generational square.
Maybe,that is why I feel squares so strongly.
If my Sun,moon or Venus is squared,I feel a incompatibility which I can NOW identify as a square lol


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Ami Anne
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posted March 11, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread talks about square but I am beginning to see that your chart is your destiny,in lots of ways.
It will determine who you can come close to you and who cannot.
It is no fault of any person.

The energies are real.
The chart is our set of potential energies with which to navigate life.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 11, 2011 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the T square synastry, the person took my humor in the wrong way,as teasing in a bad way
One's humor is very unique to oneself, like a fingerprint lol
In fact,it is one of the most unique parts of ourselves.
I made one too many jokes and he blocked me


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sassaqua
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posted November 03, 2018 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne..

I definitely understand what you are saying. And I've considered the same topic alot.

Especially with unaspected planets! I have a Pluto unaspected. I have considered too, the sensitivity of an unaspected Moon because I have 2 friends with this.

And like you, I think about it with my well aspected Mars, and when I see someone with lots of trines and such in their natal also. Because, as you say, when they are around people hitting them with challenged aspects, they cannot cope with it well.

But, also, to the people with challenges in their charts, the person with lots of trines (or unaspected planets) can be perceived as superficial or boring.

It's really interesting.

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sassaqua
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posted November 03, 2018 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The real reason though that I responded to this thread is because I am still hunting down info on the t-square in synastry! I think I started a thread on this somewhere in interpersonal?

Does anyone know how they are feeling with T-squares in their synastry?

T-Square in Synastry:
1. When - someone either hits on the ends OR the apex planet of another's t-square.
2. And/or - if someone makes a t-square to the other person's opposition.

There's not a lot of info around. Mostly it's about the "4th leg" only.

Natal T-Square Compared with Synastry T-square:
I found this referring to the NATAL t-square only, and I wonder if it can be applied to synastry: (Source: http://www.myastrologybook.com/T-square-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm)

"In a T-square, the tension and awareness created by the two planets in opposition is resolved either by the planet receiving the double square, by the empty point opposite that planet.."

HOWEVER also:
"The T-square symbolizes a lot of difficulty in one's life, but it also sparks action and the drive necessary to achieve resolution. Living with the demands of a T-square can be very challenging, but when the energy of this configuration is well directed by a mature individual, it often leads to significant accomplishments. Whereas the T-square is a dynamic influence, the Grand Cross tends to diffusion."

"A lot of difficulty in one's life" - in synastry, the person bringing the apex planet could then create MORE tension and "difficulty" to the other person's opposition?

Compared with the EASY aspects:
"..(relieving/resolving the tension) by the planet most closely trining or sextiling any planet in the T-square. This third planet becomes a focal point of much importance in your chart."

My Dynamics with Someone:
My Ascendant completes one T-square (to their opposition)
My Venus completes another (to their opposition - involving their Jupiter and nodal axis - which also involves my Moon)
My Mars is conjunct the apex of one that exists in their natal.
And also his Moon makes an opposition with my Sun, and our Neptunes t-square it (and my Juno completing the 4th leg).
And more from the natals to the Davison.
That's a lot!

Any thoughts, experiences, reflections to add?

Does anyone know how they are feeling with this in synastry? Or to the Davison chart?

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Randall
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posted November 03, 2018 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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sassaqua
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posted November 04, 2018 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this about t-squaring the opposition (the 4th leg too)- From this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/005322.html

"I have been fortunate in my practice to have had the opportunity to work with "astrological twins". Their charts have no planets in earth signs and a cardinal t-square involving 6 planets. One of them is married to a woman with Moon/Jupiter/Ascendant in Capricorn; the other was involved with a woman with Sun/Jupiter/Venus in Capricorn. Their strong t-squares attracted the missing element of a grand cross. Talk about wholeness!

I've also seen instances where a person with a very strong opposition (two or more planets conjunct, in opposition to another conjunction) falls in love with a person who has a major planet or planets t-squaring that opposition. Or a person with a strong square attracts someone with planets in opposition and square that configuration, again creating a t-square by cross-aspect.

And on the easier aspects (for comparison)
A multiple planet trine may attract the third element to complete a grand trine; however, despite popular "sun sign" books which advise, "If you are a Leo, your most compatible signs are Aries and Sagittarius", I've noticed sun trines occurring more often in platonic friendships than in love/marriage relationships. A certain amount of friction is desirable (indeed, necessary on the physical level!) in sexual relationships. In my observation, the most powerful cross-aspects in love relationships are the man's Moon or Venus conjunct or oppose the woman's Sun, Mars, ascendant or ruler of the ascendant; and correspondingly, the woman's Sun or Mars oppose or conjunct the man's Moon, Venus, ascendant or ruler of the ascendant.

There are apt to be many cross-aspects in the charts of lovers or marriage partners. Bear in mind that the "hard" aspects (squares and oppositions) do not always forebode great difficulties, nor are the "soft" aspects (sextiles and trines) always favorable. For instance, if a man's Saturn t-squares his partner's Moon/Uranus opposition, he may provide a grounding, stabilizing factor to her emotional fluctuations; whereas, a man's Jupiter trine his wife's Venus may cause him to be overindulgent with her, lavishing her with expensive gifts and spending far beyond his means. Of course, these examples will not necessarily manifest thusly - ALL factors between charts need to be taken into consideration."

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