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posted November 07, 2018 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi friends,

I have started dating someone new and at first the synastry and composite didn't wow me. But there is this subtle stability and comfort underlying the relationship. Not an intense draw, but a strong undercurrent. I feel it, and I sense he does too.

Looking beneath the synastry and composite, it is loaded with parallels and midpoint activation. I am very curious what other's takes on it will be and I so appreciate the insight you all have to offer.

Thank you so much!
PS My TOB is correct, but his is my best guess. I do feel strongly he is a Virgo rising, though where in Virgo I don't know.

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posted November 07, 2018 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi StoneMoon

venus is conujunct the node whch always bring an attraction and affection. more over it give a "psychic "feel to the relationship and often can make you feel like soul mates.

the mars/venusmidpoint is about 3leo 1 and the transitiing node was conjunct these planets on oct 9 so i would have expected you to have "got together" around then.

the jupiter/mercury midpoint is at 1 leo 50 and the node transmitted this midpoint on 10 leo 22 on about 10/22/18. so this likely i when you opebed upo to each other and found you have many similar ideas. this period shows a very active mental connection which solidified the emotional attraction of 10/9.

the node/venus midpoint is at 26can37 to 26can37 to 26can15. the node will transit these during jan19 and jan 26 2019.
so the attraction between you will only grow stronger til them. usually a very strong feeling of love will develop.
the affection will start to become very strong by middle December .

a major unfavorable aspect is Uranus square to Jupiter and square to chiron. this is often a aspect of breakup but the node will not transit this pattern until aug 2019, so i would think that you and he will be quite happy for the next year or so.
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posted November 07, 2018 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Todd, much appreciated.

I do have some questions about this-

16Cancer is a sensitive point in our natals- its his Sun and my Vertex, exact. His Pluto sextiles it, mine squares it. Would the potential strength of the synastry not have the ability to withstand this?

Also, 16 cancer is the midpoint of Pluto/Union/Karma/Amor... I would think that a transit activating one thing could balance out by simultaneously activating another.

I know your assessments have been pretty accurate in many ways for many of us, but what are your thoughts on balancing aspects? So many charts are faced with these negative "break up" aspects, and while many do indeed break up, others do not. I guess my question here is, what do you like to see or look for to harmonize these negative aspects? Do you feel like composite Saturn in trine to Uranus and sextile to Chiron (and conjunct Valentine) could offer some stability in rocky times? Would North Node conjunct Venus in composite be strong enough to overcome this?

Feedback- your dates were pretty close. He first contacted me a little after the 9th of October, and our first date was the 19th, so close to 10/22. Second date the following week and that's when we really started to connect.

I agree there is an air of soulmates, and the synastry confirms this. A large number of soulmate pairs exist in the synastry. Synastry is my wheelhouse, much more than composite.

So, suffice it to say, I am curious about exploring this more and of course will see how the relationship develops over time. I look forward to hearing your feedback if you are able, I always appreciate the perspective.

Thank you!

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posted November 08, 2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi StoneMoon

first off , I don't look at synastry charts very much unless we are dealing with multiple composites, so I can't really comment on how comparison aspect would or would not work out.i done maybe 3000 composites over the last 12 years but almost no synastry comparisons so there are many astrologers here who could answer you synastry question much better than I can.

as to the other points you ask about,i think it is vey difficult for a trine aspected planets to compensate for hard aspects between Saturn, pluto, and chiron and the chart lights in a composite.

I think this is because a composite is a mesh of two people and also because I generally retain gender in my interrelation though apparently there are composite books that say gender disappears in a composite.
the point is that say Saturn square to mars would imply that there is some resistance/coldness from the male , hence say a venus/node conjunction trine the moon, usually does not compensate for the square.
squares generally will negate trines in composites.

of course there are exception to any rule. here venus square to Jupiter can be a unifying aspect in spite of the square aspect because venus and Jupiter are so alike in nature that the square does not bring out struggles but rather emphasizes the enjoyment and love of the relationship.

in reference to your question a venus/node conjunction though extremely loving , by itself can be overwhelmed by selfish aspects.in this case the love of one member cannot make up for the lack of sincere love in the other.again,i find one can distinguish the qualities of each partner in a opposite sex composite chart.
one note about gender....if the woman is the prime force in bringing a relationship together , then she often is symbolized by what I consider males aspects. so either both partner can be symbolize by any given aspect but usually gender holds.

I have also noted that the cultural milieu in which the individuals live will also qualify the nature of the aspects.for instance, Saturn square to pluto which is usually a difficult aspect in a western composite chart is found often in patriarchal societies. so It seems that the individuals social conditioning also is a factor in the success or failure of aspects.

in my experience Saturn conjunct the moon will stabilize a relationship but Saturn trine moon though it gives an inherent compatibility is not as good at holding a relationship together. I have done some composites where the Saturn/moon trine though ,steady, became to predictable and one member would feel taken for granted and the relationship would suffer through hidden affairs.

generally the most reliable aspects for a composite are trine/sextile patterns involving venus/sun/Jupiter/mars/moon.
a composite must have aspect of spontaneous affection and aspect of mild stress.even with a bunch of trines there must be some aspects that provide a tension to keep the relationship refresh and growing.


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posted November 08, 2018 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you todd for taking the time to come back and answer.


I am curious to see how this plays out, and while I like to remind myself of free will, I also know that there is always an inherent meaning to all relationships. They serve a purpose, and even if some of them may have a time limit, they still are meaningful.

At my stage in life, I would like to think I will find a relationship that can withstand transits and breakup aspects. or to at least not have the classic breakup aspects to begin with!!!!

Maybe we can't take it out of context since it is a T square, but I am off to research jupiter square uranus, and jupiter square chiron.

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posted November 08, 2018 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synasty is great! He probably does have Virgo rising. That would make your DSC ruler Venus in Virgo conjunct his ASC, which is a strong attraction factor for you. Also your mars in his 1st as well, being conjunct his Pluto and Uranus etc. All good solid attraction signs.
A wide Venus/Pluto conjunction, and venus/Pluto trine. Wow that’s nice.
You actually have a grand cross with him!! Involving your Mars, Neptune, and his moon, venus and Pluto/Uranus. Wow! That’s a huge draw between you two forsure. Especially considering the planets involved (mars/Pluto/Venus/moon etc.)
It’s going to add a bit of friction/tension given the hard aspects, but a lot of energy and dynamism and it’s very compelling/binding given the fixed structure.
Your moon in his 5th, his moon in your 4th, his Venus in your 7th, his Mars and Sun in your 8th; this are all wonderful overlays for a romantic relationship 👍.
I also REALLY like all the conjunct angle axis.
This is always a sign of a significant connection or relationship imo. The two people feel very drawn and connected to each other. It’s very binding as well.

The symbolism matching of each other type is great too.
You have Neptune in your first, he has Pisces DSC. His ruler Neptune is also in Scorpio, conjunct your ASC! So you have a DW DSC ruler conjunct ASC going on. This is guaranteed chemistry, you guys will have a mutual attraction forsure.

Honestly I like this synastry. And after looking at the composite, sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction), I think this has great potential.
Only worrying things is Uranus conjunct the ASC and sun also square Uranus.
So it could be unstable or on/off or a shorter fling.
But overall I think this is pretty solid 👍

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posted November 08, 2018 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Luna!

I agree with all the symbolism in the synastry. At first I was underwhelmed, but the more I looked the more I saw.

I do see the trouble in the composite, but I’m wondering about it. I don’t see it as being on/off. He is looking for a committed relationship, as am I. I don’t know now if it’s will Be unstable in other ways though. I was told by a psychic that this has great potential here. She has predicted him coming for a while now. I don’t get the feeling it will Be short term or an fling/affair, but you never know what will happen. And of course no one can predict longevity.

We both have sun conjunction Jupiter in cancer. So this in composite is a strong resonance. My thoughts were this- if Uranus opposes Chiron, and we have this push pull, does Jupiter and sun in cancer (meaning expression of self through nurturing and faith and hope) offer some respite from the struggle of Uranus and Chiron? Could it not help dissipate some of the strain?

I have Uranus opposition Chiron Natally by three degrees, and he does as well by 10degrees. How would this impact the composite opposition? Maybe I’m being too hopeful.

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posted November 08, 2018 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly think it has good potential as well!
The Uranus thing could just mean independence in the relationship, maybe you live separately? Or it being somewhat unconventional. I noticed you have a decent age gap, around 10 years? Maybe that’s how it will manifest as well. I usually see strong Uranus in long distance couples or couples with totally different backgrounds/cultures/races or age gaps etc.

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posted November 08, 2018 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points! 12 yr age difference, and very different life styles. He is well established and quite successful, I am not.

Also, I ran the charts with a different birth time for him, moving him to the late degrees of Virgo and it moved things to a three degree gap in opposition of Uranus and Chiron, and pushed the Asc back so that Uranus wasn’t conjunct. So in other words, I HAVE to get his time of birth. I feel very confident he is Virgo rising.

He doesn’t have much Virgo in his chart for personal planets and he is very Virgo like! Impeccable dresser, super clean and organized, very neurotically Virgo! . I would know, with my Virgo-ness! I know that sun pluto if his can be a perfectionist nature too, but I feel a lot of Virgo in him.

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posted November 08, 2018 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes. I’m a Virgo moon in the 6th house nonetheless 🙃 haha I know about about neurotic Virgo tendencies 😂

He definitely sounds like one. And it would just make the most sense considering everything and the connections between your charts if he is. It would explain a lot.

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posted November 09, 2018 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again, I really appreciate your perspective and the way you see things. It's so totally different from the way I read, its refreshing!


As an aside, both my marriage (15yr relationship) and the man I consider my biggest love thus far, shared this exact same aspect with me (the composite T square of Uranus opp Chiron and square something else). So do my three closest friendships. Each relationship has it's own flavor, but they are all enduring. Maybe this is something I need in my relationships to maintain my independence.

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posted November 28, 2018 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping this sucker

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posted November 28, 2018 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that the "subtle stability and comfort underlying the relationship" could come from the a synastry grand square. But I don't see one.

Eros conjunct your Venus, and Cupid on your Ascendant is a nice touch. Especially for people past their 20s because it's nice to get a bit of sparkle. But nothing too intense or youthful - we do outgrow the Mars/Venus.

I would like to see a synastry grid, and also both natals if possible StoneMoon?

I really am worrisome of SN contacts.. but, I do wonder that, in older years they are more tolerable and also make more sense in the psyche. So, that Saturn etc on your SN maybe ok with this in mind. You may feel that he was someone in the past that you could've done with, that he's someone you're making up time with.

I love the aspects you have to your Moons: yes his is opposed by your Mars and square your Neptune but, thankfully a nice trine with your Sun, and real nice with your own Moon. The challenging aspects, and, to a degree to your Sun, will add to your allure and give you some feistiness and strength in his eyes. Which is good if he holds power elsewhere, but also, often men at that age want to feel that feistiness again in their blood. With the trine from your Pluto to his Venus and the lovely aspects to your Moon though, it's very steady, and there's a working for the good of both. You don't want anything less at a certain time in your life!

It looks like both of your Luminaries are really decently aspected (I want to see the grid). This is a coming into your own then, whereby he is supportive and (finally) you can be your full self with no apologies, wondering who you gonna offend - you can just shine and be radiant with confidence. That's what a mature relationship (post 30s) is made of so, I like to see this. This also gives a great SOLID feeling of "subtle stability and comfort underlying the relationship." When the grown adult woman is relaxed into herself, the man often senses it and relaxes with relief into his self too.

I wonder about his Neptune there.. and I'll be back. It is best to always take time when seeing a challenged Neptune in synastry and here there's a lot. Best to never take the veil off suddenly, or too early. Otherwise, it runs the risk of accusations of deception etc. The psyche needs time to process and come back down to earth (why I say take time and never be too sudden). I'd like to look closer at those t-squares too when I'm back.

Ok.. I'm taking a break. I'd like to get the grids (naties too) because it becomes tiring and I'd rather put the energy into deeper elements than just identifying the aspects

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posted November 29, 2018 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is mine:


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posted November 29, 2018 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you! I love the fresh take.

I agree with you that while these aspects aren't the "wow" factor of a lot of synastries, it represents appropriate interactions for people in our age range. I don't want a fling and I don't a hot affair... I want companionship, stability, real true love. Depth, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the huge sexual affair we seek in our twenties. But I want sex, too! Hahahahaha!

No grand square, but maybe the grand cross Luna talked about is providing that?

I will throw out the duads later this evening too. Or maybe we should start a new thread for those? Our personal duads are good, and they tie in nicely with the composite duads.


I will also say you made a comment about relaxing in to our "own" and I definitely feel that happening. Our first date he was Ssooooooooooo proper. Hello Virgo rising (I know, I am supposing he is a Virgo rising, but still!)! Last night he called me to talk about our next date and he was so much more himself. Actually said the word "ass!" I knew we hit a turning point. Made me smile.

I earlier had his ASC closer to my Venus, but have also moved it to later degrees. If later degrees, it puts his Pisces moon in the 6th house. Earlier degrees would be 7th. I will work on getting the exact TOB but he's very cautious and I have to break my love of astrology news slowly. He will be fine with it I think, given how intuitive he has to be with that chart, but I want to ease in gently.

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posted November 29, 2018 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.. don't astrologise yet.

For me, I kick myself - astrology can really mess things up for me. Because I analyse and test, rather than have a relationship, haha (actually not funny ).

Then I get ahead of myself and it seeps out - I can be more familiar with them then I actually should or would be if I wasn't reading their chart every day (OMG - LOL!). Again no, not really funny.

Grand square is same as grand cross

Do duads here I think because then we can (now and future readers) learn while having all the reference material here. Like the charts, the story, and the conversations around it (I posted my duads for you on my thread too ).

I will come back again and read deeper, either today or tomorrow. Don't want you to underestimate that Neptune. And we'll see what else is in there.

Keep us posted though, it's very interesting. Especially because our age, and like you say and I agree so much - relationships are different things at different stages of our lives.

When he said ass, I hope it was something along the lines of him intending to kiss yours

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posted November 29, 2018 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Yeah.. don't astrologise yet.

For me, I kick myself - astrology can really mess things up for me. Because I analyse and test, rather than have a relationship, haha (actually not funny ).

Then I get ahead of myself and it seeps out - I can be more familiar with them then I actually should or would be if I wasn't reading their chart every day (OMG - LOL!). Again no, not really funny.

Grand square is same as grand cross

Do duads here I think because then we can (now and future readers) learn while having all the reference material here. Like the charts, the story, and the conversations around it (I posted my duads for you on my thread too ).

I will come back again and read deeper, either today or tomorrow. Don't want you to underestimate that Neptune. And we'll see what else is in there.

Keep us posted though, it's very interesting. Especially because our age, and like you say and I agree so much - relationships are different things at different stages of our lives.

When he said ass, I hope it was something along the lines of him intending to kiss yours


Hahahaha, yes so true. Sometimes I think I am dating them for the experience of the synastry instead of them. But this one I like! I will heed your advice and not astrologize him. Not yet, anyway!


And oops, was thinking of mystic rectangle when you said grand square,..I'll post duads and I plan on digging into y0urs. But I want the degrees on yours, so I will figure those out too.

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posted December 01, 2018 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oohhh... StoneMoon, his Mars is yikes.

It's to his Moon too, AND Chiron. And that Moon is opposite Uranus and Pluto.. that's a wow.

That Moon (which is fairly heavily squared) is at the base of that kite.

I'm not sure but maybe something like (interpretation): the tension that he experiences with Mars and Moon (and Chiron so you know what that means) drives him forward to experience great feelings of invigorating power, ego regeneration and a sense of uniqueness/special-ness. It pings him forward leaving all those bad feelings, and anyone who he experienced them with - or triggered them for him - behind. While he soars to greater feelings of self empowerment.

Is he a powerful seemingly successful figure? Pluto and Uranus in the 12H have a different flavour.. but TOB is unknown so.. have to consider generally. I feel that this man enjoys routine, cyclical conflict, however.

If that's not enough, his Venus is challenged as well. So, feelings of inferiority or compensation are present. But, they are undercurrent because he can use his Mercury easily to appear "ok" and sweet talk anyone (business or otherwise) if and when necessary. His Mercury is his survival card, and the way he gets by.

As many/most males (of this age in particular), he likely has a history of outsourcing his sense of esteem by looking to the females in his life to carry it for him. So.. this means that, his women are symbols to him of his own worth.

But, that female energy is counter and at odds with his main ego self (his Sun in the kite). So he may compartmentalise his love/feeling time and his other self (as per the elements in that kite). And never shall the two be entwined.. He may be a sonovabish at home (Moon) behind closed doors. Or, maybe he wouldn't like many demands made upon him from his female companion? Or, perhaps there is rivalries with his companions, and heated deep jealousies of their lives and the way they live them because it threatens his ego and sense of esteem.

BUT, having said all that, he may with age have learned some lessons. And also, if he is established, he will not be at the ascent period of his career, but rather, be chilling more, and ready for time for the wome/an (feminine principles) in his life.

But, still, old habits die hard and I am wondering about that Moon square Mars. And how it is a pertinent base to that kite. And I wonder just how exactly that square has "served" his success to power. If you get my drift. Additionally dear StoneMoon, that Pluto and Uranus are square to his Venus as well. I really don't like this much? There is (seems to be) a strong loop and repeating themes of feminine principles being at odds to his own ego and authority.

In the synastry, it is interesting to see that his Moon/Chiron gets great support from both of your lights, and thus both the male and female principles. I think this is important, because I get the feeling that he will walk all over someone who doesn't demonstrate that strong ego force to him. And a tonal layer of both forces over his Moon is a great leadership for his Moon that he will respect. His Moon does need leadership.

And, similarly, it is your fatherly Saturn that is supporting his naughty Mars. Anything less authoritative and less tangible certainty may not work. Saturn is definitely something Mars can respect.

Your Venus is providing a trine to his Pluto where he otherwise has a square. So, this theme of your natal providing relief, support, guidance and role-modeling to his natal tensions continues.

But, still I keep thinking.. old habits don't die easy. His template of women and relationships is still his template, it's very hard to get through to people that project these tensions onto others. And his are very powerful and (possibly) fast acting being in a kite (I've seen it before so I'm speaking from memory). But, I think they do say that squares offer time before reaction, more-so than oppositions.. so maybe those squares have allowed time to ponder, reflect and improve. No matter what support your natal provides I'd still be watching his attitude. Which I guess applies to any new situation

But how interesting is it to see someones natal filling in the gaps for another's natal? Making up for the things missing in another chart, providing supportive scaffolding where there is otherwise tension for that person. It's the same curiosity I am pondering on my thread.

I'm still looking so no quote please.

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posted December 01, 2018 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you may be right about a lot of this. Again, I have only just begun dating and getting to know him. But he is definitely a person used to power, the leader. I don't know his marriage history yet, but he does appear to have a wonderful and healthy relationship with his grown daughter... which is a positive sign.

I actually had a read of tarot about him and she, the reader, said he has realized that he has to approach love differently if he wants to experience true love, and that he is trying to do just that. Trying and actually doing can be two different things though.

Looking at the kite to gain some perspective. But I need to research more. I did notice the way my chart takes his challenging aspects and gives them support. He reciprocates- I have Saturn square my ASC, his Saturn trines my ASC, and my Sun. I do think I have felt this one a little already. And notice too, my Saturn sextiles his Mars. So, again, the respect he has to have towards another ...

But. So far, I am not picking up negative vibes. He's dominant, yes, but after years of passive passive men... I appreciate a little more "take the lead" approach from someone. Eyes wide open for me. .

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posted December 01, 2018 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think though, ...

The kite is water and Sun/Moon/Neptune with Pluto Uranus at the top. So the energy of the moon in the kite could be used to better advantage than just as the square to Mars (Mars/Venus midpoint really) and how it is afflicted by Chiron and Saturn? Because they are too wide to be in the kite, but.... I don't know? How does one handle energy that is a blessing (kite formation) while some of it is also stressed by other patterns (the T squares and the conjunctions...)

I guess you can't have one (the blessing) without the other (challenge). It's like universe handed him this "gift" but gave him long life lessons first... it almost feels like having a life long loan to pay off while using it ... ???

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posted December 01, 2018 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I tend to see enclosed pattern forms is a closed circuit. Or train track if you like.

Once on it it just loops. If there are formations, planets, aspects outside of it then those sort of have a different life, or personality in the psyche altogether.

The way I see that square to the Moon/Chiron is that in his mind and actions, emotional conflict with women, and deep emotional wounds from childhood, or, conflict at home even, is a benefit to him. It provides impetus to launch off into his kite. His kite having Sun in it and Pluto (etc), is an attractive place to be, "launching off" to it puts him on his circuit to where he is a stronger man and has a stronger sense of purpose and authority. If there is benefit to him personally to have conflict, he may invite it.

So.. this is my feeling. I have not looked at degrees to see how close (intense/powerful/impulsive) it may be. Degree closeness is very important in a chart.

Considering the modality - water, etc.. I haven't yet done. But, as far as I am concerned, the principle is the same.

Also - and I was thinking about this today - if that Pluto/Uranus IS in fact in his 12H, then.. this could mean a retreating on his own - the kite catapulting him to a state of retreating from the conflict. yet still the principles are the same (I feel) because it is the Sun and we must support the Sun. And also, it's Pluto, so there is a compulsion there, and a cyclical regeneration each time all gets burned down.

I want to look at Neptune there in your synastry. After I've considered the natals.

Also, the t-square is to asteroid so .. kind of not as powerful. I would not be saying that a t-square exists there. It's better to read at early stages without asteroids to reduce noise. But I do tend to keep Juno.

Thank you for your questions it really helps me to clarify and articulate for myself too. We both grow and learn.

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posted December 01, 2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, interesting insight.

My mars being part of the kite now may also set it off, you think?

My Neptune trines his mercury, opposes his venus and squares his moon. His Neptune trines my Jupiter, sextile Amy moon but squares my mercury.

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posted December 01, 2018 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The trine is there but doesn't show because it's just that bit wider than the other aspects: square his Pluto, opposite his Venus, and square his Moon.

Not set it off with your Mars, I think that's ok. It's best if your planets link into both parts of his psyche. It's ok if it "goes off" too.. lol. But, if he's going round picking fights with chicks because he gets a kick out of it.. this might become wearisome for some of them.

But, your synastry to him looks solid in being able to manage him (the points we have touched on so far anyhow). I still want to look more though. Just, your Neptune.. I don't know but, after a while the veil may come off for him and both?? Which is the obvious interpretation. But I am wondering to what degree will it be, and I need more time to ponder and weigh it up against the more solid aspects of the synastry to answer this (I think?).

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posted December 02, 2018 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you check, the composite mirrors his kite-

Mercury at the top, opposite Moon, with Uranus and Saturn on either side of Mercury and supporting moon. Interesting...

This hits my Pluto and Mercury. For him it hits his Venus and Mercury, and his Sun through a square. So to me, this tells me this relationship could have greatest impact on me for communication purposes and him through love and self expression. For me, Mercury is a big deal. I struggle with communicating clearly and in a good time frame. I don't know if it's the inconjunct to my Moon, or what, but I so struggle with making connections from my thoughts and emotions and formulating them in to words. Usually by the time I sort through this it's too late, the conversation is past! And we have already identified that he needs to change his approach to love and women in life.

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posted December 02, 2018 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and what's more, he makes a kite in my natal chart-

I have mars at the top, with a connection to jupiter. He provides neptune on the other side and moon at the bottom. His Sun is in there too.

If you counted Part of Fortune relevant, we have the grand sextile by throwing in my Moon in Cap too. But his NN is Taurus 23... right on my PoF. I believe that is relevant in grand sextiles and other pattern configurations, is it not?


So this would be the closed circuit of energy happening between us. He has his own, then we have one between us, and the relationship of the energy has a third kite.

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