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LunaIscariot
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posted November 20, 2018 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plutonian; you match the pattern as well 😊

Your friend, idk lol. Depends if her TOB is 100 percent accurate, no if she is born even 15 minutes before or after that time. And the fact that it’s kind of rounded makes me feel like it could be off a bit.

But if not, that narrows down the theory a bit.,, and hikaru s out lol

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posted November 20, 2018 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
melinazonk

Thanks (I've actually read everything I could find online)
Could you tell me in what sense love is a duty? Do you see it as a job? Like for example you don't want to work but you do it because you need the money in order to live. You don't want rrlationships but you do them innorder to get sex or because you should just be in a relationship? Just becausr that's how it is? It sounds like something obligates you to be in a relationship.. Even worse it sounds like a burden so why would you even be in a relationship?

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posted November 20, 2018 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Plutonian; you match the pattern as well 😊

Your friend, idk lol. Depends if her TOB is 100 percent accurate, no if she is born even 15 minutes before or after that time. And the fact that it’s kind of rounded makes me feel like it could be off a bit.

But if not, that narrows down the theory a bit.,, and hikaru s out lol


Wow! Interesting!
I thought you would say that I don't because of many aspects and placements actually.
Would you care to share how you came into that conclusion?
If I saw my chart I would think I'm a cheater.
My friend's is accurate.
What makes you feel like my friend isnnot a cheater based on her chart?
I'm really curious if it doesn't bother you and if you do want to share of course.

I think here no one has a reason to lie
but their perception of cheating may be a bit different or loose. For example someone may be in open relationships so he may freely sleep with oyhers so that is not considered cheating.. There are people that do not consider flirting with others or even making out as cheating.. For me even flirting is cheating.

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melinazonk
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posted November 21, 2018 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for melinazonk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
[b] melinazonk

Could you tell me in what sense love is a duty? Do you see it as a job? Like for example you don't want to work but you do it because you need the money in order to live. You don't want rrlationships but you do them innorder to get sex or because you should just be in a relationship? Just becausr that's how it is? It sounds like something obligates you to be in a relationship.. Even worse it sounds like a burden so why would you even be in a relationship?[/B]


well... the darkest part of this aspect can bring to these type of situations. i see my relationship romantically, i have high expectations, BUT (talking about my love-life):
my only two "stable" relationships were with two guys who were very abusive and violent (more psychological than phisical). so called "narcopaths". i knew it was wrong to accept to be in a rs like this, but my sense of duty, my thoughts were like "i fought so much to be with him, now i have to continue, i have to demonstrate he could trust me, i have to do everything possible to make him love me again... all this sense of duty didn't allow me to see that the same person i was trying to save was also the one who tried to destruct me in every kind of way...

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Plut0nian2
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posted November 21, 2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
melinazonk

Could this be more Neptunian?
It sounds like Neptunian sacrification so the types that you attracted at least to those two relationships you talked about.

Maybe you have Neptune natally or in synastry with those too?

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posted November 21, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am faithful, loyal, but I do not cling necessarily. If people grow a part, friends or lovers, that's just normal. Some confuse insecurity/neediness with loyalty, wherein someone "sticks" or is "faithful" to something due to insecurity, lack of self esteem or confidence.

I've been called both loyal, and "not loyal". Granted, the people who've thought of me as disloyal, are not loyal to me. I like symbiotic relationships, not blind faith. I don't like parasites who expect faithfulness when it is not earned.

When there is a debate between two friends, I will take the side of the truth, often. I will try to distance myself from making it personal (the view of one person, the view of the other), and instead, find the truth and side with that.

Allow me to illustrate with an exaggerated example:
Person 1: How dare you accuse me of stealing the cookie! Lala, you're my friend, defend me!
Person 2: I know you stole it! You love cookies! Lala, you're not gonna side with THEM are you??
Me: Well, let's look at the whole situation. While Person one does like cookies, it doesn't mean they stole it.
Person 2: YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME!
Me: What? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this. Also, historically speaking, you do tend to jump the gun when issues like this come up.
Person 1: YEAH!! TELL 'em!!!
Me: I'm not making a dig, just pointing out an obvious observation based on person 2's history.
Person 2: UR SO MEAN TO ME OMG!
Blood relative of mine comes in: I believe Person 1.
Me: Okay but let's not just believe blindly. We still need to get to the bottom of this.
Blood relative: U DON'T EVEN SIDE WITH UR BLOOD FAMILY??


**everyone freaks out**

PPl: OMG UR SO DISLOYAL! PICK A SIDE!

Me: I just wanted to find the truth T_T

Damn humans...

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Einfühlung
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posted November 21, 2018 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Einfühlung     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would love to be a part of your experiment. I’ve only had one relationship, which was very short due to family breaking us up. I pined for him almost 10 years and tried again with him but instead ended up brutally hurt. When I like/am with someone, they’re the only one. And when someone interests me I usually figure out if they’re in a relationship or not to determine if I should let my feelings grow. I wouldn’t give the time of day fantasizing a romantic relationship with them if they’re taken.

My chart:

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Hikaru29
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posted November 25, 2018 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:

But if not, that narrows down the theory a bit.,, and hikaru s out lol

NOOOOOO.... I would like to appeal. How about my friend?

Which aspect(s) you look at anyway?

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StoneMoon
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posted November 25, 2018 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, which aspects????

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Randall
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posted November 28, 2018 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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