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aquaguy91
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posted November 24, 2018 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I befriended this girl at college. We have great rapport and laugh and laugh. We are also really comfortable with each other. But could we be more than friends? Truth be told, I really like this girl and feel like we have chemistry. I have a feeling she likes me too, but she gives me mixed signals. What do you think? I'm on the inside in blue.

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posted November 24, 2018 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 24, 2018 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synasty doesn’t look that great tbh. It’s mediocre. You could find someone you have a much stronger connection with.
And she had Venus conjunct mars, so she’s a natural flirt that’s probably why you feel she likes you but she gives mixed signals. Because she really doesn’t like you she’s just naturally flirty lol
And she’s a sag rising, with mercury conjunct her ASC, so yeah she’s naturally really friendly and funny/outgoing etc.
But you guys aren’t that compatible, lots of hard aspects and not many trines or sextiles. I’m not seeing strong conjunctions or aspects between the personal planets or overlays/symbolism matching to the relationship/attraction houses.
Your 5th ruler mercury is conjunct her Venus/mars conjunction so that’s why you’re crushing on her lol and your mars is opposite her Pluto.
But her mars (5th ruler) isn’t getting anything too strong from you besides your mercury, Uranus and Neptune which aren’t that romantic or exciting for her.
Your mars is in her 7th which is nice, and her ruler mercury is making a few decent aspects. But these aren’t strong enough for a relationship imo.
This just looks like a crush, I don’t think anything will come of this. I don’t think the pull is strong enough on both sides to pursue anything farther. You also both put your planets in each other’s platonic/friendship and communication/air houses and earth houses. I think a friendship is definitely a better idea.
But you could post the composite just to see

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posted November 24, 2018 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I’m not seeing strong conjunctions or aspects between the personal planets



Our moons are conjunct. I know most astrologers dont count orbs beyond 3 degrees or so, but I can feel that aspect in our interactions. We are both really comfortable and open with each other.

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posted November 24, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I know I seen the moon conjunction.
But I’m saying I don’t see other strong contacts. You want planets on angles, angle rulers conjunct personal planets, trines and sextiles, planets falling in the 5th, 7th and 8th etc. Moon conjunct moon is nice and all but you need other things going on as well. You can try pursue this if you want but it’s not going to be anything substantial, just a fling at best. Synasty is complex, there’s a lot of elements that need to be happening besides just what you read online for there to be a solid connection/strong attraction that has real relationship or long term potential, and by long term I mean at least 2 years.
Obviously do what you want, but I’m just being honest and realistic here that I really don’t think this is going to turn into a relationship and if it does, it will be a short-term one. I’ve seen and studied enough charts that I can say that pretty confidently. There’s just too many missing elements here in this synasty and the attraction is stronger on your side.

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posted November 24, 2018 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Lol I know I seen the moon conjunction.
But I’m saying I don’t see other strong contacts. You want planets on angles, angle rulers conjunct personal planets, trines and sextiles, planets falling in the 5th, 7th and 8th etc. Moon conjunct moon is nice and all but you need other things going on as well. You can try pursue this if you want but it’s not going to be anything substantial, just a fling at best. Synasty is complex, there’s a lot of elements that need to be happening besides just what you read online for there to be a solid connection/strong attraction that has real relationship or long term potential, and by long term I mean at least 2 years.
Obviously do what you want, but I’m just being honest and realistic here that I really don’t think this is going to turn into a relationship and if it does, it will be a short-term one. I’ve seen and studied enough charts that I can say that pretty confidently. There’s just too many missing elements here in this synasty and the attraction is stronger on your side.


I was just clarifying that because you said you didn't see any strong conjunctions between the inner planets. Also, many astrologers are anal and dont count any orbs over 3 degrees.
Honestly, I dont really want to pursue anything. It is just interesting to hear other perspectives on synastry. Honestly, I am very much on the fence about synastry's ability to show attraction.

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posted November 24, 2018 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you know what you’re looking for, it’s pretty foolproof actually.
Attraction is probably the easiest thing of all to spot in synasty. Compatibility, or long-term potential is tougher lol.

If you do decide to go for it and ask her out etc. Make sure you come back and update 👍

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posted November 24, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Well if you know what you’re looking for, it’s pretty foolproof actually.
Attraction is probably the easiest thing of all to spot in synasty. Compatibility, or long-term potential is tougher lol.

If you do decide to go for it and ask her out etc. Make sure you come back and update 👍



If it is easy to see attraction in a chart, tell me how to see it. What quantifies a good synastry? Like what shows that two people are attracted to each other and would be open to sex if logistics were favorable? Nevermind long term commitment. What aspects are fullproof indicators of mutual attraction? I've been studying this stuff for years and have never seen any rhyme or reason to it. I've had sun/moon double whammys, planets in 5th and 7th house, aspects to angles, conjunctions, and mars/venus.. And nothing. Then I've had very plain and boring synastry and things were hot.

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posted November 24, 2018 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ask about physical attraction in particular because it is easy to see general nice aspects in synastry. You can have good synastry with your mom or best friend, but that doesn't mean you are attracted to them. I know I have a good mental and emotional connection with this girl, but I'm not sure if she likes me more than friends because she is very shy and even a bit awkward. Plus she is a scorpio and they keep their cards close to their chest.

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posted November 24, 2018 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s way too complex to go into detail, exhausting just thinking about trying to explain everything 🙃🙃lol
It’s just a lot of different factors you have to take into account. Not to mention each persons natal chart too.

It’s easier to see the charts in action than to talk about it in theory. That’s way too much but I’ll give the basics.

A good one to look out for;
ASC-DSC axis conjunction, the rulers of one persons ASC conjunct the others DSC axis or vice versa, DSC ruler conjunct ASC, or the ASC ruler of one person conjunct the others DSC ruler. If you have mutual/DW hard aspects, best being the conjunction and then the square and opp between the ASC and DSC ruler or some sort of connection with the axis or rulers, that’s always a foolproof indicator of mutual attraction and chemistry.
For example; one person’s ASC ruler conjunct the others DSC, and the others ASC ruler square the others DSC ruler.

Basically though, for just seeing attraction; you want all 3 attraction houses (5,7,8) of one person to be activated, either by overlays, strong aspects (hard aspects) to the rulers of these houses and symbolism matching by the other person in some way.
Also, Venus being aspected for a man, and mars for a woman.

So for example; if you are a sag rising, and you have aries in your 5th house and mercury is also in your 5th (the ruler mars is in Pisces), Gemini in your 7th, sun is also in the 7th (ruler mercury is in aries), and cancer on your 8th and your moon is in Aries so also in the 5th.

You have to study the natal; so looking at this we know this person is attracted to strong mercury/Gemini energy. Not just because of the Gemini DSC, but mercury is also in the 5th!, and they’re attracted to strong Leo/sun energy, because sun is in the 7th house and the ruler of the DSC is also in the 5th house (Leo house). They would also be attracted to cancer/moon energy because the 8th house would be cancer and the 5th house ruler mars would be in the 4th house and moon is in the 5th. And lastly, they would be attracted to aries/mars energy because the 5th cusp is aries and the 8th ruler moon is also in Aries.

So say someone came along with sun in Aries, ascendant in Leo conjunct mercury, and moon in cancer.
We know for a FACT this person would be very attracted to this person, because of the strong symbolism match on all levels. And you could switch these signs around, say a Aries ASC, mars in Gemini, moon in Leo, sun in cancer etc. Would still be a strong attraction.
Or if this person had sun/moon/mercury all conjunct in the 5th house in Aries and a cancer ASC, moon being conjunct the sun and mercury etc. These are all examples of symbolism matching.
If you have that alone, aspects are secondary (venus-mars, mars-Pluto,moon-mars etc.) because just the symbolism match alone is going to cause that person to be attracted because their your type. Now if you also have good harmonious contacts between your inner planets (conjunctions/trines/sextiles , the more the better for compatibility, this shows compatibility/similarity NOT attraction, they’re very different) or pattern completions together (easy or hard like grand trines, t-squares, yods; especially if these involve the attraction house rulers, it’s powerful), 4th house overlays/conjunctions with the ruler, or nodes on angles, conjunct angle axis etc. this is solid basis for a long term relationship and usually marriage. You need attraction AND compatibility for marriage or long-term stuff. Sex or a fling is just attraction, and compatibility is just friendship.
If all the angle rulers connect somehow, that creates an intense bond that is very compelling and usually shows a soulmate type connection, it’s pretty rare.

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posted November 24, 2018 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
It’s way too complex to go into detail, exhausting just thinking about trying to explain lol
It’s just a lot of different factors you have to take into account. Not to mention each persons natal chart too.

It’s easier to see the charts in action than to talk about it in theory. That’s way too much.



In a previous post, you mentioned a long list of things. Surely, you realize it would be next to impossible to have all, or even most of that, in synastry with someone? There's no perfect synastry. And there's a lot of debate on what is considered good synastry. I've honestly never seen any kind of consensus on what constitutes good synastry. It really bugs me. Lol

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posted November 24, 2018 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I edited my reply to give you more detail

And no, it’s not impossible at all lol. I see it a lot in any happy long term relationship.
Attraction (symbolism matching and overlays/aspects to the 5,7th and 8th rulers) and compatibility (harmonious interaspects between the inner planets and some conjunctions).
You seem to think I just came up with this list or these things for no reason or just as a theory, as if I don’t have years worth of studying and experiences behind me to back this up haha
I’ve seen everything I mentioned firsthand, with real people, real relationships with real charts, and many of them.

It’s fine if you don’t agree or believe me, but just make sure you come back and update with what happens with this girl 👍 because I still stand by what I said earlier.
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posted November 24, 2018 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 24, 2018 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don’t need perfect synasty, but if you want a happy, fullfilling relationship where you’re not just settling, you need the things I mentioned,
It’s not nearly as rare as you’re thinking lol.

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posted November 24, 2018 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh well, there is Uranus to ignite the fire. Her venus on your uranus. And your sun on her uranus. The flirting will be off the charts, in the beginning. Also that sun pluto conj. Run for your life! This can turn into obsession and nasty nasty power games as soon as she stops flirting with you. or you with her... dont say I didnt warn you. I wish I could offer better and positive insight, I really do (
Been in a mess similar like this for more then 1 year now...


That has already happened from her end lol. She went cold on me for a few days when fireworks were starting to go off, but she came around. I may have returned fire and iced her out too. The thing about us is it mostly unspoken. A lot of strong eye contact and body language.

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posted November 24, 2018 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I edited my reply to give you more detail

And no, it’s not impossible at all lol. I see it a lot in any happy long term relationship.
Attraction (symbolism matching and overlays/aspects to the 5,7th and 8th rulers) and compatibility (harmonious interaspects between the inner planets and some conjunctions).
You seem to think I just came up with this list or these things for no reason or just as a theory, as if I don’t have years worth of studying and experiences behind me to back this up haha
I’ve seen everything I mentioned firsthand, with real people, real relationships with real charts, and many of them.

It’s fine if you don’t agree or believe me, but just make sure you come back and update with what happens with this girl 👍 because I still stand by what I said earlier.
Good luck



Dont take it personally. I've just never seen a synastry where all of that stuff is going on. Maybe, I just have bad luck? I dont know.

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posted November 25, 2018 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
You don’t need perfect synasty, but if you want a happy, fullfilling relationship where you’re not just settling, you need the things I mentioned,
It’s not nearly as rare as you’re thinking lol.

I would like to offer this synastry for your better illustration. IYO, how do these 2 people feel about each other and does this have long-term potential?

From what I see, his Asc ruler conjuncts her Dsc ruler. Ruler of her 5th house conjuncts ruler of his 7th house. Her 7th house ruler also trines his 5th, 7th & 8th house rulers (do harmonious aspects count?). However, in terms of house overlays, his inner planets only fall into her 10th, 11th, 12th houses. His Jupiter in her 7th house though and I heard that's a good placement. As for her, her inner planets fall into his 3rd, 4th, 5th house.

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posted November 25, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I plugged some asteroids into our synastry and there are a few good things going on. My valentine conjuncts her venus/mars conjunction. Maybe, that is why there is such a sweetness between us? Also, her eros squares my mars and her psyche trines my venus.

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posted November 28, 2018 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Melinn:
[b]Oh well, there is Uranus to ignite the fire. Her venus on your uranus. And your sun on her uranus. The flirting will be off the charts, in the beginning. Also that sun pluto conj. Run for your life! This can turn into obsession and nasty nasty power games as soon as she stops flirting with you. or you with her... dont say I didnt warn you. I wish I could offer better and positive insight, I really do (
Been in a mess similar like this for more then 1 year now...


That has already happened from her end lol. She went cold on me for a few days when fireworks were starting to go off, but she came around. I may have returned fire and iced her out too. The thing about us is it mostly unspoken. A lot of strong eye contact and body language.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes I figured

I'm not a pro astrologer so I can't read charts like they do!

I have gone through so many different phases with my crush

The initial phases, falling in love, or butteflies in the stomach phase. Its exciting and one is high on dopamin and and other addictive drug like hormones.

The best thing is to, either take it to the next level.

Or let it crash and burn and live off off the drama that creates for a while

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posted November 28, 2018 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I figured

I'm not a pro astrologer so I can't read charts like they do!

I have gone through so many different phases with my crush

The initial phases, falling in love, or butteflies in the stomach phase. Its exciting and one is high on dopamin and and other addictive drug like hormones.

The best thing is to, either take it to the next level.

Or let it crash and burn and live off off the drama that creates for a while



I heard this old song earlier today and it describes my situation with her perfectly. It was like the universe sent it to me lol. http://youtu.be/Kt_XIUAepT4

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posted November 28, 2018 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would like to offer this synastry for your better illustration. IYO, how do these 2 people feel about each other and does this have long-term potential?

From what I see, his Asc ruler conjuncts her Dsc ruler. Ruler of her 5th house conjuncts ruler of his 7th house. Her 7th house ruler also trines his 5th, 7th & 8th house rulers (do harmonious aspects count?). However, in terms of house overlays, his inner planets only fall into her 10th, 11th, 12th houses. His Jupiter in her 7th house though and I heard that's a good placement. As for her, her inner planets fall into his 3rd, 4th, 5th house.


Yes the ASC conjunct DSC ruler is one of the best connections to have in synastry. The fact his Uranus is also in his 8th house is snother symbolism match for her Scorpio DSC this is great. So we know she’s going to very attracted to him. Her co ruler mars is in the 2nd in Gemini conjunct Venus and Saturn. He has a Capricorn stellium so this is matching the Saturn energy she’s looking for too. ALSO, people forget Aquarius is co ruled by Saturn as well. So his co ruler Saturn is in Taurus in the 3rd house! This perfectly matches her mars in Gemini (his Saturn in the 3rd) I’m the 2nd house (his Saturn in Taurus). SUPER strong symbolism matching all around for her 7th. And the fact his Saturn is conjunct her ASC means she’s experiencing him as Saturnian, he is acting this was towards her and vice versa, and since her DSC ruler mars is conjunct Saturn this is energy she’s looking for and enjoys so it’s really appealing to her 👍. With such strong 7th house, we know she sees him as her “ideal” and a long term partner, someone she’s serious about and wants to commit to.

Her 5th ruler is sun in Aries in the 12th, he has a 12th house stellium. Her sun is opposite Uranus; he has aqua rising. This is a decent symbolism match. Aspect wise her sun squares his sun/Venus and makes a t-square with her natal Uranus so it’s being stimulated nicely in a pattern formation.

Lastly her 8th ruler is Jupiter, it’s in Capricorn which again matches his cap stellium. Her 8th house had Neptune and the moon there as well, he had moon in his first house, and Pisces moon/mars and that cal stellium
Is in the 12th. Super strong match, the strongest yet with the 7th a close second.

So she’s completely in love with him. All her love houses are matching his chart, he’s her type, she’s totally attracted to him on all levels.

Now for him, she matches his 5th house the best, second his 7th and a bit his 8th. So we know this attraction is a bit one-sided, she’s a lot more into him than vice-versa. He views her as more casual, fun, a pleasurable fun fling energy nothing serious and he doesn’t see her as marriage material as much per say. He will probably be the one to end the relationship as well since he’s less commited.

They’re not totally incompatible, they have some nice mirroring going on with her Venus/mars conjunct Saturn matching his cap stellium, her sun/‘mercury in the 12th... Neptune is also opposite her Gemini stellium giving it a more Pisces energy to match his strong Pisces energy.
But their sun, moon and mercuries are square by sign which is tough. He doesn’t have much fire/air in his chart and she doesn’t have much water or earth. There both strong in the others missing element which is a big attraction factor. I see it a lot. But it shows attraction not compatibility. Also they have a lot of squares (t-squares) in their synasty which again shows an opposite attracts thing, but I don’t think they’re going to last long-term.

For 2 reasons; the attraction is stronger on her side, and he is less interested in the long/term or commitment with her, and they’re lacking true compatibility with the opposite elements in their charts, and too many hard aspects without soft to balance it out or any strong conjunctions between the personal planets or angular connections.

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Yes the ASC conjunct DSC ruler is one of the best connections to have in synastry. The fact his Uranus is also in his 8th house is snother symbolism match for her Scorpio DSC this is great. So we know she’s going to very attracted to him. Her co ruler mars is in the 2nd in Gemini conjunct Venus and Saturn. He has a Capricorn stellium so this is matching the Saturn energy she’s looking for too. ALSO, people forget Aquarius is co ruled by Saturn as well. So his co ruler Saturn is in Taurus in the 3rd house! This perfectly matches her mars in Gemini (his Saturn in the 3rd) I’m the 2nd house (his Saturn in Taurus). SUPER strong symbolism matching all around for her 7th. And the fact his Saturn is conjunct her ASC means she’s experiencing him as Saturnian, he is acting this was towards her and vice versa, and since her DSC ruler mars is conjunct Saturn this is energy she’s looking for and enjoys so it’s really appealing to her 👍. With such strong 7th house, we know she sees him as her “ideal” and a long term partner, someone she’s serious about and wants to commit to.

Her 5th ruler is sun in Aries in the 12th, he has a 12th house stellium. Her sun is opposite Uranus; he has aqua rising. This is a decent symbolism match. Aspect wise her sun squares his sun/Venus and makes a t-square with her natal Uranus so it’s being stimulated nicely in a pattern formation.

Lastly her 8th ruler is Jupiter, it’s in Capricorn which again matches his cap stellium. Her 8th house had Neptune and the moon there as well, he had moon in his first house, and Pisces moon/mars and that cal stellium
Is in the 12th. Super strong match, the strongest yet with the 7th a close second.

So she’s completely in love with him. All her love houses are matching his chart, he’s her type, she’s totally attracted to him on all levels.

Now for him, she matches his 5th house the best, second his 7th and a bit his 8th. So we know this attraction is a bit one-sided, she’s a lot more into him than vice-versa. He views her as more casual, fun, a pleasurable fun fling energy nothing serious and he doesn’t see her as marriage material as much per say. He will probably be the one to end the relationship as well since he’s less commited.

They’re not totally incompatible, they have some nice mirroring going on with her Venus/mars conjunct Saturn matching his cap stellium, her sun/‘mercury in the 12th... Neptune is also opposite her Gemini stellium giving it a more Pisces energy to match his strong Pisces energy.
But their sun, moon and mercuries are square by sign which is tough. He doesn’t have much fire/air in his chart and she doesn’t have much water or earth. There both strong in the others missing element which is a big attraction factor. I see it a lot. But it shows attraction not compatibility. Also they have a lot of squares (t-squares) in their synasty which again shows an opposite attracts thing, but I don’t think they’re going to last long-term.

For 2 reasons; the attraction is stronger on her side, and he is less interested in the long/term or commitment with her, and they’re lacking true compatibility with the opposite elements in their charts, and too many hard aspects without soft to balance it out or any strong conjunctions between the personal planets or angular connections.


Yes, she feels that they've a lot of differences and that's her biggest concern. But she also told me that he suggested marriage before but she rejected because she does not want to marry a 2nd time + she's aware of the incompatibility and fear that they will split one day. Once she thought she got pregnant and he wanted her to keep the baby, so it seems to me that he does want a long-term r/s with her because in our culture, we usually don't have babies with people we don't wanna commit to, be it in the form of marriage or simply cohabitation.

But thanks for the reading..that was very detailed and insightful.

Sorry, aquaguy, for hijacking your thread.

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posted November 29, 2018 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today, I was sitting with her and noticed a decorative sign on the wall that said "love one another right now" and I just sat there looking at it in silence for a long time. I saw her looking at it too out of the corner of my eye and she briefly glanced at me and smiled. We have lots of little moments like that, but it's like neither of us wants to swing for the fences and make a move. It is driving me crazy lol.

I looked at our composite and there is some cozy stuff there too. We have a nice moon/jupiter conjunction in the 4th house and moon conjunct the south node. We are both very comfortable together, but at the same time we are terrified of being vulnerable with each other. Our dynamic is really strange.

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Hikaru29
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posted November 29, 2018 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you post the Composite?

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posted November 30, 2018 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Yes, she feels that they've a lot of differences and that's her biggest concern. But she also told me that he suggested marriage before but she rejected because she does not want to marry a 2nd time + she's aware of the incompatibility and fear that they will split one day. Once she thought she got pregnant and he wanted her to keep the baby, so it seems to me that he does want a long-term r/s with her because in our culture, we usually don't have babies with people we don't wanna commit to, be it in the form of marriage or simply cohabitation.

But thanks for the reading..that was very detailed and insightful.

Sorry, aquaguy, for hijacking your thread.


But you said in the other thread she thinks he doesn’t love her? and I would 100 agree with that, it shows in the charts...

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