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aquasco
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posted November 24, 2018 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 25, 2018 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men are completely different. Never pursue them with too much Mars energy.

Men are rarely looking for their soulmate either. If you mention "soulmate", they'll categorise you as either crazy, desperate, low value, or anything else.

Sorry.. thought I'd chime in. But I don't have a minute spare to look at your charts.

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posted November 25, 2018 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read up the definition of soulmate and it seems to describe my current guy but it also seems to describe my ex and some of my closest friends. So I'm on the fence about this soulmate thing and if there is really such a thing, then we're meant to have more than one special soulmate in this life.

So my advice is don't be too hard up on this soulmate thing but rather assess this relationship based on actual compatibility. If he has rejected you once already, take a step back and let the man pursue you. If he's keen and he senses your withdrawal, he will take a step forward for sure. If he doesn't then you know he's not into you.

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posted November 25, 2018 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquasco

Tell me a bit more on the situation; why he ‘rejected’ you and the circumstance. Also, why does this feel right, relative to other ‘rejections’.

I’m curious, I thing this is important.

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posted November 25, 2018 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Sun and Saturn are opposing your NN! This is the reason why you feel it, imo. Contacts to Nodes always indicate to me a past life connection.. they’re the reason why people feel an incredible pull despite having rather mediocre charts.

In your composite the theme of Pisces and Neptune is highlighted. This speaks to a more ethereal connection. The sun/moon conjunction although wide gives off the feeling, that you’re basically one person.

I think it’s Saturn opposing your NN though, that makes him ultimately “reject” you. I’ve seen and experienced it so often.. When the Saturn person doesn’t get strong Node placements from the other one, or other very compelling aspects, the relationship never happens!
It’s like you rejected him before, and now it’s your time to experience it, because this time he’ll be unavailable.

To me that’s always been the one-sided attraction aspect. Although that word is not quite right.. there usually is an initial attraction, but it doesn’t last past the first impression phase.

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posted November 25, 2018 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn....... such a painful planet.

I can’t help but like it.

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posted November 25, 2018 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
His Sun and Saturn are opposing your NN! This is the reason why you feel it, imo. Contacts to Nodes always indicate to me a past life connection.. they’re the reason why people feel an incredible pull despite having rather mediocre charts.

In your composite the theme of Pisces and Neptune is highlighted. This speaks to a more ethereal connection. The sun/moon conjunction although wide gives off the feeling, that you’re basically one person.

I think it’s Saturn opposing your NN though, that makes him ultimately “reject” you. I’ve seen and experienced it so often.. When the Saturn person doesn’t get strong Node placements from the other one, or other very compelling aspects, the relationship never happens!
It’s like you rejected him before, and now it’s your time to experience it, because this time he’ll be unavailable.

To me that’s always been the one-sided attraction aspect. Although that word is not quite right.. there usually is an initial attraction, but it doesn’t last past the first impression phase.


You mean the Saturn person will eventually reject the NN person? How about Saturn square NN? Same interpretation?

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posted November 25, 2018 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 25, 2018 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 25, 2018 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 26, 2018 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
You mean the Saturn person will eventually reject the NN person? How about Saturn square NN? Same interpretation?


Yes the Saturn person will place the obstacles, in my experience.

With the square- I have it in my most significant previous relationship with baby daddy. It’s my Saturn. It’s hard to tell who ultimately rejected whom, though. He did feel rejected by me at some point, but I never meant it that way. From my perspective he was always the one, who’s feelings were changeable towards me. Now in the end, I still want him, but he’s moved on, as of now.

So maybe with the square it’s a back and forth situation.
The square also didn’t prevent a significant relationship, that will last due to us becoming parents.

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posted November 26, 2018 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquasco:
So you think it's the end of it?
I feel like I'll never stop hoping on this one, like ever... even if it was something almost childish like.
It's just that this all touched my soul and changed everything for me, my inner world. One of those things you'll never have the chance to explain cause the other person might think you're crazy ahaha

I don’t think one can say that, based on aspects. Your charts show your overall potential.. not when and how you will get together or not. It’s possible that you’ll start a fling, the whole situation just doesn’t sound ideal to you.
You sure that other girl knows, they’re in an ‘open relationship’ ?

I can totally understand how you feel, and that you're wishing for the best despite all odds. With that soulmate thing.. there are many soulmates out there, not just one. It’s also not necessarily romantic or sexual. Your mom could be your soulmate, your dog, too.

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posted November 26, 2018 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Yes the Saturn person will place the obstacles, in my experience.

With the square- I have it in my most significant previous relationship with baby daddy. It’s my Saturn. It’s hard to tell who ultimately rejected whom, though. He did feel rejected by me at some point, but I never meant it that way. From my perspective he was always the one, who’s feelings were changeable towards me. Now in the end, I still want him, but he’s moved on, as of now.

So maybe with the square it’s a back and forth situation.
The square also didn’t prevent a significant relationship, that will last due to us becoming parents.


So I would think that this aspect doesn't necessarily prevent a significant relationship from forming, but rather it may act as blockages that challenge the relationship, in what way I'm still not sure.

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posted November 26, 2018 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquasco:
Talking about actual compatibility, do you think all this is only due to his planets on my SN and IC?
So the rest of the synastry is not that good?

Since you don't know his ToB, it's not possible to tell how his angles are being aspected. You said he rejected you and what was his reason? I value reality more than astrology. So what if you have fantastic synastry aspects with someone but he doesn't feel more than friends or rejects you for whatever reasons? Don't forget circumstances can also prevent a r/s from forming. I don't believe in pursuing a guy relentless.

EDIT: I just read your other post that he has what? 3 other girls??? OMG. Are you sure this is the kind of guy you want? If he's really into you, he'll drop the other girls and pursue you only. Don't be part of his harem.

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posted November 26, 2018 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So I would think that this aspect doesn't necessarily prevent a significant relationship from forming, but rather it may act as blockages that challenge the relationship, in what way I'm still not sure.

Yes that’s how I would see the square, too. For my situation I interpreted the aspect as follows, so you have a real life example:

His NN is in 9th house Aquarius. His SN in 3rd house Leo.

My Saturn is in Scorpio 1st house, close to my own SN.

Despite the Saturn square, my IC forms a very close conj to his NN.

When we met and through our entire relationship, I was this unusual, enigmatic thing he couldn’t quite figure out. That’s what struck his interest, despite the sexual attraction. He always told me how special I was, because I made him feel and see things, he wouldn’t have otherwise. Our world views differed, but he drew some inspiration from it. He became more open, loving and interested through our association.

But despite all that, I have my share of issues and insecurities (Saturn) that came out in this relationship, and which often compromised this free and open side in me, which he loved. So it was a package of contradictions with me, that put a strain on everything.

He also misinterpreted a lot of things I said and enjoyed. Just because I liked to experiment, didn’t mean I was up for an open relationship! Just to name an example. So in a way I did inspire him, but I also had to limit his approach.

Another thing was.. though I liked his friends, I wasn’t really into them. I always had the feeling they influenced him in a very immature and stupid way. (He’s friends with the same group of people, since kindergarten!)

Now he’s dating a girl from that group and who’s sun conj his SN. So telling, I think. He’s literally stuck in his past now.

But that’s how NN/SN always works I think. It’s a pendulum swinging back and forth. Two steps forward, one step back.

So yeah the Saturn square didn’t prevent our journey, but it put a real blockage right in the middle.. I can imagine that as long as I don’t deal with my issues, this relationship won’t happen again.

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posted November 26, 2018 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Yes that’s how I would see the square, too. For my situation I interpreted the aspect as follows, so you have a real life example:

His NN is in 9th house Aquarius. His SN in 3rd house Leo.

My Saturn is in Scorpio 1st house, close to my own SN.

Despite the Saturn square, my IC forms a very close conj to his NN.

When we met and through our entire relationship, I was this unusual, enigmatic thing he couldn’t quite figure out. That’s what struck his interest, despite the sexual attraction. He always told me how special I was, because I made him feel and see things, he wouldn’t have otherwise. Our world views differed, but he drew some inspiration from it. He became more open, loving and interested through our association.

But despite all that, I have my share of issues and insecurities (Saturn) that came out in this relationship, and which often compromised this free and open side in me, which he loved. So it was a package of contradictions with me, that put a strain on everything.

He also misinterpreted a lot of things I said and enjoyed. Just because I liked to experiment, didn’t mean I was up for an open relationship! Just to name an example. So in a way I did inspire him, but I also had to limit his approach.

Another thing was.. though I liked his friends, I wasn’t really into them. I always had the feeling they influenced him in a very immature and stupid way. (He’s friends with the same group of people, since kindergarten!)

Now he’s dating a girl from that group and who’s sun conj his SN. So telling, I think. He’s literally stuck in his past now.

But that’s how NN/SN always works I think. It’s a pendulum swinging back and forth. Two steps forward, one step back.

So yeah the Saturn square didn’t prevent our journey, but it put a real blockage right in the middle.. I can imagine that as long as I don’t deal with my issues, this relationship won’t happen again.


For me it's my Saturn squaring his NN and I also find some of his friends a bad influence. His friends are also the same group of people from his hometown, lol. I also find myself limiting what he wants to do more than he does to me.

My friend's boyfriend has his Saturn squaring her NN and he finds her friends undesirable. He thinks they take advantage of her. He's also more limiting on her.

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posted November 26, 2018 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquasco:
Something's happening, I can already see signs, also the situation is really more complicated then what I can tell you by posting. I know something's gonna happen soon that will prove I'm right again.
The fact is, it can be positive or negative, proving what I feel doesn't mean it will necessarily be a good continuation.

I think this is just one of those "wait and see" kind of situations because it could go either way at this point - either he was blowing smoke and only you feel this profound connection and it will end up going nowhere, or at some point it will be the "right time" and you will finally come together...once he has let all of the other girls go. To be honest, that would make me take pause, because if he is one to entertain multiple relationships then it's not unreasonable to think he is sweet talking you as he did the others to bring them into his "tribe." I don't know about you but that would be really off-putting for me...I don't know if I could ever fully trust a man who enjoys that kind of lifestyle.

As far as the soulmates debate, I am a firm believer in the idea of sharing a profound connection with someone however in my experience it doesn't necessarily have to be romantic. I believe they come into your life at a time when you're required to grow or learn some kind of lesson so you might want to evaluate where you are and how he might be helping you on your journey. Your connection may last forever or it may not last at all, but at least he will teach you something along the way.

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posted November 26, 2018 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
For me it's my Saturn squaring his NN and I also find some of his friends a bad influence. His friends are also the same group of people from his hometown, lol. I also find myself limiting what he wants to do more than he does to me.

My friend's boyfriend has his Saturn squaring her NN and he finds her friends undesirable. He thinks they take advantage of her. He's also more limiting on her.


This is funny. Nice synchronicity!
Saturn square NN/ aka « I hate your friends »

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posted November 26, 2018 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
This is funny. Nice synchronicity!
Saturn square NN/ aka « I hate your friends »

LOL, simple and straightforward interpretation, isn't it?

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posted November 26, 2018 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 26, 2018 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capguy75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ana_bee - interesting theory about Saturn/NN. Could I ask your opinion on a similar placement I have with someone else? My Saturn doesn't directly oppose their NN (almost... but it'd be a very wide orb) however my Sun is conjunct it. And on the other hand, *her* Saturn is sextile *my* NN. Would this suggest more bonding than bust-up?

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posted November 26, 2018 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that his chart alone up there? With the mars opposite mercury in fire and air? so he says one thing, goes and does another. Plus Jupiter is strengthening both, in his first. Looks like trouble to me.


Venus conjunct Neptune, so he is pretty loose and Piscean in his approach to love. It's in Cap, so perhaps later in life he will change his views, but right now, given the story, he is pretty self serving and bends his notions of love to fit his needs and desires.

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posted November 26, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquasco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 27, 2018 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's what I told him (and I only knew about one girl at the time). It's three with me, the first one and some girl he knew from last year at theatre classes... And the day he started that something with the third one he would flirt with her and look at me after what happened... So I don't really know him, if he's just immature in the way he tries to get attention, if he's doing something to see how much I'm interested.
Cause everyone says he's a really nice guy, and I can see that with our friends and the way he talked to me, he wasn't showy or acting macho or stuff like that.. He's pretty simple. I just don't know if he does this all times (with girls) or if he's doing that to look like he doesn't give a damn bout me not accepting him first or what...

I suggest you take a step back and be indifferent. Don't play into his game. He doesn't sound as simple as you say. And that Venus conjunct Uranus wants excitement.

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