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posted December 29, 2010 09:43 PM            

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Hello out there,

there's an incredibly strong and sexy intellectual/emotional affinity between that man and me. I am pretty sure that our feelings are mutual - but we come from totally different angles, in our repsective lifes, and there are 11 years between us. So - of course - it's not all that easy, otherwise I wouldn't open a thread on this .

If you look at that Synastry: Who do you think is the more enthralled, "turned on" and infatuated person - who feels "it" more intensely?

Me on the inside, him on the outside:

And, just as an "extra", just because I haven't seen such an impressive thing before .... look at our totally symmetic Composite:

My name-asteroid is the orange one, his name is the green one.

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posted December 30, 2010 03:39 AM            

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This chart doesn't show uranus anywhere

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posted December 30, 2010 04:51 AM            

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? What do you mean, Laura?

In the Synastry-chart you can see, it's his N.N. conjunct my Uranus (in my 10th) - and his Uranus in my 9th (widely cj. my Mercury). In the Composite Uranus is prominently placed in 10th, part of the Pluto-Uranus-Vesta-opposition to Saturn ....

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posted December 30, 2010 06:16 AM            

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Hi based on ur synastry chart, it seems d person in d inside could be "feeling it" more. The outer person has more than 2 of his planets in ur 8th house & his Sun in ur 7th house. Anyway just my opinion..

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posted December 30, 2010 07:04 AM            

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So, you're putting the emphasis on house overlays, ASH. Hm, yeah, makes sense, in a way. From that point of view, I find it interesting that my ASC falls in his 1st, my DSC in his 7th house.

How about these conjunctions:

His PLUTO & KARMA conjunct my VENUS.

His APHRODITE conjunct my MC.

His ASC & VALENTINE & NEPTUNE conjunct my APHRODITE.

His JUPITER conjunct my ASC.

His VENUS & MARS & URANUS conjunct my MERCURY.

His AMOR conjunct my IC.

His SATURN conjunct my EROS.

P.S.: All I can say: For my part, I think we'd be a great match, of course.

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posted December 30, 2010 09:13 AM            

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How tight is the mars square saturn? That's a lethal aspect in synastry. My boyfriend has it with me and it's going to kill our relationship, and we have a great synastry.

Edit: just found out Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had it and made it 50 years. Usually on synastry compatibility calculations its listed as one of the worst aspects. You also have moon square saturn which I have with my sister a double whammy with with my sister (opp and square). It isn't fun. But aspects are what you make of it. The composite kite is very nice.

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posted December 30, 2010 09:42 AM            

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Hello MOCHAI - huh, "lethal aspect" sounds spooky ... Can you explain that a little bit further? I'm interested in that!

Actually, there is no Mars-Saturn-square in our Synastry. I don't know where you see it?

My Saturn is at 20° Taurus, his Mars at 6° Leo - that is a QUINTILE-aspect, which is said to be a bit complicated, but inspiring and creative.

My Mars at 28° Cancer, his Saturn at 4° Capricorn.

I think, the Saturn-links in that Synastry are well mixed ...

His Saturn makes nice aspects to my chart: It's HIS SATURN TRINE MY VENUS (exact) and sextiling my NORTH NODE.

My own Saturn makes some difficulties to his chart, though - it's square his MOON and opposite his JUPITER.

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posted December 30, 2010 09:50 AM            

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MOCHAI - that KITE-formation ... I actually don't know much about these patterns. It just looks so ... "neat", haha, I like it. ***edit: I also like the idea very much, that in the Kite-Composite, MY NAME IS CJ MOON (female), and HIS NAME CJ SUN (male) - and each at one end of the kite's angles - that seems so ... perfect, haha ***

I am not asking whether this relationship has a chance for the future, btw. I mean: There are severe obstcles between us... Maybe we will never be a couple. It is just that I am curious who currently feels more enthralled, mystified etc. ...

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posted December 30, 2010 09:50 AM            

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Ok good then. It was the symbol that looked like mars at around 4 degrees libra. It's early in the morning lol.

You have some nice aspects.. like venus trine saturn etc. Any aspect with venus and pluto is pretty enthralling for the pluto person.. moreso in squares and oppositions. I've only had one person's venus make an aspect to my pluto (opp) and that was my longest relationship.

Here's a mars sq saturn def.. although usually it comes up most often sexually
Mars square Saturn
This is a difficult aspect for any kind of personal relationship. Saturn has a restraining influence on Mars in this combination. There is apt to be conflict regarding joint financial affairs and behavior in general.

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posted December 30, 2010 09:59 AM            

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Okay, I see. Thanks for explaining that. Hope it won't ruin YOUR relationship then....

I can tell you about the problems we have:

1. some minor geographical distance

2. he is still somehow entangled with his very needy ex-wife, and, to be honest: his heart and soul are not "free" yet, as far as I see it. That's just one of the reasons why nothing has "happened" between us (erotically) up until now. I made it very clear to him, right from the start: That I am not at all interested in any casual affair, don't want to be an "erotic sidekick" for an (ex-)married man and all ...
He accepts ans respects this, he never made any fuss about that. But it may be ... that this is the big roadblock between us. He doesn' feel very secure, in that regard. I do believe he likes me, adores me and thinks about "more" between us - at the same time he is still clinging to his shattered ex-marriage in a way, they just split about 9 motnhs agot, he's not over it yet - but that's what I would wish for or would "expect" from him, in a way. I stated clearly, that I'd rather wait or be friends, than becoming the "woman in between".... I am very strict in that regard, but strict with a charming smile, of course... ,) SO THAT'S MAYBE THE WAY MY SATURN (principles!) squares his MOON (feelings/cravings)...

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posted December 30, 2010 01:08 PM            

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I don't think that's a question synastry alone can really answer- the point of synastry is that two energies are interacting, so in that sense, there's a give and take that's balanced between two entities. I think what would reveal more is if you look at the natals and see what each person's relationship/romantic patterns are- particularly with aspects that are directly involved in synastry aspects too. I've found that when doing this, you can widen orbs for synastry as well, particularly with hard aspects. At first glance, I'd say the person on the outside might be more "turned on" because they have a natal Moon/Venus/Mars. Also the inner person's Sun seems to fall around the outer's Sun/Moon midpoint?

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posted December 30, 2010 04:02 PM            

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I suspected that funny sign was uranus, but I had never seen that symbol used for uranus before. Just one more question- Are you sure about your partner's birth time?

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posted December 30, 2010 06:17 PM            

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11 yrs difference is cool... Unless u r teen. I love kite formation,natally...

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posted December 30, 2010 07:41 PM            

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STABORGI: Thanks for that hint - taking a different perspective on that matter from studyying the individual attraction-patterns more thoroughly. Good idea. (Of course, I've done that , the next step for me is always the Synastry - if I'm gettin seriously curious about someone.

Concerncing the Sun/Moon-Midpoint: I didn't even mention these. His Sun/Moon is at 19° Cancer - my Sun at 23 ° Cancer - so we have a wide conjunction of 4dg here.

Even more interesting: My Sun/Moon is at 8° Libra - conjuncting his Juno, North Node, Pallas and Lovejoy (all at 8°, 9° or 10° Libra). Hmmmmm.....

VENUSdiSIRIUS: No - I'm not a teen anymore. I passed my 30th birthday quite a while ago. Really: Quite (!) a while ago!

Oh, and LAURA: No problem. Birthtime: Pretty sure, let's say: 88%. He talked about it.

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posted December 30, 2010 07:45 PM            

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In that case, u go girl

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posted December 30, 2010 10:13 PM            

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ok well I asked because I was wondering if you knew Hugh Laurie and asked him his birth time and were having an affair with him- because that's his birth chart. I mean I don't know if it is to the degree because the chart you show doesn't have details or degrees- but every planet is at least almost exactly to the degree. Basically Hugh Laurie's chart nevertheless. He's married. You shouldn't be fooling around with him. Although with his uranus conjunct mars I suspect he's never really been the faithful type anyway. As for who feels it the most I would say that you do because he has 2 personal planets in your 7th house and one of them is the sun (big one to have in the 7th), but in any case you both have really nice synastry and both are likely to have feelings for one another. The synatry between you two is really good but you still shouldn't be fooling around with him.

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posted December 30, 2010 10:22 PM            

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Long term that Composite saturn opp Pluto is a killer, one of the worst you could have, hard saturn/pluto.

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posted December 30, 2010 10:40 PM            

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Long term that Composite saturn opp Pluto is a killer, one of the worst you could have, hard saturn/pluto.

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Who would say that bringing the beast out of each other is a baaad thing
Absolutely hate to see hard pluto/saturn aspect.

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posted December 30, 2010 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LauraSmith:
ok well I asked because I was wondering if you knew Hugh Laurie and asked him his birth time and were having an affair with him- because that's his birth chart. I mean I don't know if it is to the degree because the chart you show doesn't have details or degrees- but every planet is at least almost exactly to the degree. Basically Hugh Laurie's chart nevertheless. He's married. You shouldn't be fooling around with him. Although with his uranus conjunct mars I suspect he's never really been the faithful type anyway. As for who feels it the most I would say that you do because he has 2 personal planets in your 7th house and one of them is the sun (big one to have in the 7th), but in any case you both have really nice synastry and both are likely to have feelings for one another. The synatry between you two is really good but you still shouldn't be fooling around with him.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well,u must be wrong,cuz hugh laurie is mine,do u read me,mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted December 30, 2010 11:16 PM            

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Hugh Laurie seems like a Sagittarius to me, completely.

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posted December 31, 2010 01:12 AM            

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Well it's true that's his chart exactly. Hey anything's possible. You never know who's on these boards.

Ok then... It's a great synastry. The biggest problem is I think the saturn square his moon, but I think that the other aspects are good enough where that can be worked around. The other thing though is the fact that he has mars conjunct uranus in his chart and men with this conjunction tend to have a really hard time being satisfied by just one partner- even in marriage. In fact in Magi astrology they warn against settling down with any man with this placement regardless of how good the synastry is because he is much too likely to cheat. However I must admit that if I ever had a synastry as good as you have with this guy that wouldn't let that Magi belief deter me from giving it a shot. I can never seem to find a guy that I have good synastry with.

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posted December 31, 2010 01:14 AM            

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I'm a Pisces so I completely get the stuck in fantasizing mode.
Oh yes.
(Definitely not about this specimen, but I get it.)

Anyway maybe the Sadge vibe is his Asc.

What's his face,
Sean Penn,
He's a Sagittarius rising, I kind of get the same vibe from them.

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posted December 31, 2010 01:47 AM            

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Dude, I totally think u'r bangin' hugh laurie.

Hugh Laurie's chart (I purposely made his ascendant the same as the one posted)

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posted December 31, 2010 06:38 AM            

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OMG!!!!!! Who is HUGH LAURIE I was asking myself - and googled him - oooooh - it's Doctor House!!!! Haha - Believe it or not, I've heard about that TV-Series, but never watched it - and I couldn't remember that name - now I saw: I FELL IN LOVE WITH DOCTOR HOUSE!!!! OMG!!!! Noooo - just kidding - of course not! "My guy" is from Central Europe, certainly no actor ... but it is very, very spooky - thanks for putting up that Laurie-chart, LauraSmith! Here we definitely have a case of heavy-astro-twin-ning, haha. So ... well ...hm .... yes. And: no. I never spent a second thinking about that actor. And it is a strange thing now for me ... having that "Doctor" in mind, when pondering over my crushe's chart. GOSH - that's weird!!!!

Lonake: Yeah - that Saturn-opposition to Pluto/Uranus/Vesta seems stressful. On the other hand .... in that very symmetric chart, it almost seems to come out as a solid "root", a basic element ... Actually, I've read and thought about this opposition (Saturn>Pluto/Uranus) a lot - and here we have something "spooky" as well: My last great, but miserable love (2 years relationship with a man, it ended about 2 years ago, after heavy mind games and loads of mental/emotional torture for both of us) - this EX-BF he had that opposition in his natal chart - and it really seems to have shaped his personality, in a way. My Ex-BF had PLuto-cj-Uranus in 12th, cj. his ASC by 2dg >>> opposing Saturn in his 6th, cj. his DSC by 1 dg. As his partner, I somehow had to struggle with this heavy, nasty constellation ... And now I see that again in that new Composite. Hmmmm. Also "spooky": With that latest Ex-Relationship of mine, it was my Pluto conjunct the guy's Venus in Synastry - with the new guy ("Dr. HOuse", haha), it's the other way 'round, it's his Pluto cj. my Venus. Sooooo ... some pattern is popping up again for me. Hmmmm.

And something else: What I didn' mention so far: Currently I am going through a very special transit, myself - Since last summer it's trans. PLUTO trining my VENUS and JUNO (and sextiling my NORTH NODE) .... I guess, this is quite rare.... and it started just about the time when the contact between me and him got closer ... I had that in mind, last summer, but then laughed about it, because I found it ridculous, and said to myself: "Don't get crazy girl - okay?" tr.Pluto will go on trining my Pluto and will reach a final peak with it next summer ... In between tr. Chiron and tr. Neptune will conjunct my NN and oppose my Venus/SN-connection .... So there seems some kind of "general revelation" coming up for me, concerncing my love life. Let me say: It's overdue! I'm 40, know what I mean?

Thanks for your support, people!

***EDIT: Very important: I don't feel the least "desperate" or "addicted" to that guy, btw. I adore him and I can imagine a beautiful relationship with him - but it's not as "intense" or "helpless" as I felt with my latest love - not at all! maybe, it's because this time I'm Venus, and He's Pluto, opposite to my last relationship??? I feel ... "generous" about the whole thing. If, one day, there'd be a chance for us to make it "real" - I'd be the happiest person! But somehow ... it's easy for me to accept, that the circumstances are complicated or maybe even impossible ... I feel no "need for rushing or fighting for it" or anything. I have strong feelings - but somehow, I am cool, very relaxed. I NEVER experienced any romantic thing in a similar way. It seems to be the first "fling" ever that I can just enjoy, and be "serious" about it, on the one hand - but I totally accept when there's no way for us ... Don't know - somehow, I feel, it is fate's job to handle this, haha. Either it will come out as THE THING - or not. I am not stressed out about this - my life seems complete to me - I just appreciate having met him ... but I won't wind myself up in that. Basically, I see that the one who's have to "move" and "change" and "invest" many things would be him. I'm just here - we know each other - I signalled to him, that I do like him a lot - the rest is up to him (or "fate"). NOW I SEE THAT I LEARNED FROM MY PAST - I won't get into "warrior"-mode for love again, like I did with my latest (horribly intense) love. I have strong feelings!!! But ... I've got them "under control" in a way. That is oh, so good! Much "reason" paired with "emotion" this time - and ... I like it!

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