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Lalafortunaea
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posted December 21, 2018 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects would make someone like this? Make them more or less indifferent to relationships or romance
until their 30's when they just *click* with someone?

Or, what gets activated for them? What in their chart gets moved?


Are you like this?

Do you know anyone like this and/or have a chart to share?
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(I know 3 people like this, and the one who's birthday I know of isn't dependable because her mom can't remember the date, and when her birthday was translated into another country's style cert, her mom just put whatever date she thought of first :P yay...)

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posted December 21, 2018 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'd just blame saturn/capricorn 5th or 7th in particular but aspects would probably do it too

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posted December 21, 2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree,strong capricorn making hard aspects to venus ,moon or 7th house ruler ithink.

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posted December 21, 2018 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
What aspects would make someone like this? Make them more or less indifferent to relationships or romance
until their 30's when they just *click* with someone?

Or, what gets activated for them? What in their chart gets moved?


Are you like this?

Do you know anyone like this and/or have a chart to share?
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(I know 3 people like this, and the one who's birthday I know of isn't dependable because her mom can't remember the date, and when her birthday was translated into another country's style cert, her mom just put whatever date she thought of first :P yay...)


that's me. First rl with 33. Never wanted one before and this one is also long distance but that suits me. It just happened organically. Will post my chart tomorrow

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posted December 21, 2018 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Kani

Can't wait to check out your chart.


And I'm reminded that I DO know someone else who only got with someone when he was in his 30's. I'll post his chart tomorrow as well.

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posted December 21, 2018 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I'll place my natal chart here as an example. I'll be 27 in February and never had one, never really looked for it, despite being emotionally intense and keeping love high on my priority list. I always liked the idea of having a significant other, but it never appealed to me in real life. I tried to force myself into it a couple of times, because that's the part of growing up that's supposed to happen, right, but it always felt like a chore and I never really connected with any person in a deeper way that would make me wanna be with them. Or maybe I just had bad luck and ran into bad people, I don't know. Friends and family used to tell me I'm picky/have high standards and should try harder, but now they just accepted I'm the strange one. It was a long way coming but I feel ready for an actual serious relationship right now, but still there's no one interesting around. It's like I'm waiting for that one person and I don't even know who I am waiting for but I'll know when I see them. So now I kinda wonder will I ever get into something meaningful, like when is my time coming? It's funny because I witness and hear stories about soulmates and what not and I'm like "awww but sorry can't relate" lol.

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posted December 22, 2018 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@sunflowermoonflower

Hum... If I'm reading this correctly, you have similar placements as another. Can you past the bottom half of the chart with the aspect clarifications? (can't be sure where everything is)

And don't worry, you'll find someone. I guess just ask for them or say "I'm ready to meet my ultimate partner and/or soul mate, whoever they may be!"

caution: maybe you'll have to meet some other people before you're ready as a way to help open you up for the new experience.

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posted December 22, 2018 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Here it is. This man only got into a relationship in his early/mid 30's. As you can see, there are some harsh Saturn placements. But also, there's that mars in Aquarius...

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posted December 22, 2018 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was my cousin, only he was in his 50s (and did have a relationship in his 20s - huge gap though!!)

I wish I had his time of birth... I guess with his Aquarius Moon it is likely Neptune was transiting it at the time (thinking of how long ago they got together) and possibly opposing his Sun in Leo. It was after Uranus transited these points....great question!! I guess the progressed chart could really come into play here, and solar arcs.

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posted December 22, 2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's a complex 12th House Lala! Look at that Moon-Pluto close conjunction too, in critical Virgo no doubt. I bet he was seeking perfection somewhat, especially with the sextile to Neptune. Was looking for the goddess.

Probably didn't know he was coming over as super fussy, 12th house planets are difficult to 'own' so I'd say something about his partner's chart brought that Moon-Pluto into the public arena. Maybe on an angle in synastry and with a lot of aspects to his partner's chart?

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posted December 22, 2018 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
@Kani

Can't wait to check out your chart.


And I'm reminded that I DO know someone else who only got with someone when he was in his 30's. I'll post his chart tomorrow as well.



Here it is



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posted December 22, 2018 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here's the bottom half. I think this is intercepted house situation, right? My third house is Capricorn, and fourth Aquarius. North Node, Uranus and Neptune are in 3rd in Capricorn BUT my Moon, Lilith, Mars, Saturn and Venus are in 3rd Aquarius. Sun is in 4th, Pisces.

I proclaimed my intentions, and I've already met some people this year that I feel are only the prelude to what's to come. You know, they'd have bits and pieces I'd appreciate in a partner, but not just quite the whole package. I am certainly open for experiences, but I honestly feel like an older, maybe divorced woman haha, who's been through some stuff and doesn't have time for nonsense. I'd dive right in, but only if it's 100% real and honest from the other side too. Kinda all or nothing at this point. And I'd rather have nothing than half-ass something. I am happy just with friends and family and I don't miss romance per se, but it would be nice to share life experiences with someone else, to be in a team and grow together, you know.

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posted December 22, 2018 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most people meet love when in their 20ties because of the position of venus. Its max elongation from the sun is 45 degrees. So in progressions their progressed sun meets natal venus or progressed venus meets natal sun.

It's all about the degree between both planets.

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posted December 22, 2018 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:

Here it is



Descendant in Capricorn may have something to do with it.

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posted December 22, 2018 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aamhz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@kani

How does South Node in the 7th work with no romantic relationships? Your difficulty is indeed laid out (Cap DSC and Saturn in Libra), but I have a difficult time comprehending how one has "abundance" and "over-reliance" (SN) on "others" (7H) if they've been relationship-less.

I ask because I know someone with Cancer ASC and SN7 and the very little I knew of them for the very brief time, they seemed to be the type of person who's always connected with someone one-on-one (7H) while not being extraverted and rather homebody-ly too.

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posted December 23, 2018 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@kani

How does South Node in the 7th work with no romantic relationships? Your difficulty is indeed laid out (Cap DSC and Saturn in Libra), but I have a difficult time comprehending how one has "abundance" and "over-reliance" (SN) on "others" (7H) if they've been relationship-less.

I ask because I know someone with Cancer ASC and SN7 and the very little I knew of them for the very brief time, they seemed to be the type of person who's always connected with someone one-on-one (7H) while not being extraverted and rather homebody-ly too.


I don't know. But I never wanted one and love being on my own.
The South Node is something we've been through before in our former life (although I have many past life memories of being on my own and happy with it) so maybe we don't want it that much in this one.
Oh by the way. That's the mean node. I count the true node and that one is in in the 2nd/8th house which makes much more sense to me

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posted December 23, 2018 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
What aspects would make someone like this? Make them more or less indifferent to relationships or romance
until their 30's when they just *click* with someone?

Or, what gets activated for them? What in their chart gets moved?


Are you like this?

Do you know anyone like this and/or have a chart to share?
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(I know 3 people like this, and the one who's birthday I know of isn't dependable because her mom can't remember the date, and when her birthday was translated into another country's style cert, her mom just put whatever date she thought of first :P yay...)


Me me me. No real tangible success in relationships. And am now in my 30's. I don't expect it to come together overnight really.

I am thinking progressions perhaps? Especially those with Moon and/or Venus.

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posted December 23, 2018 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lala,

can you find any explanation for this in my chart?

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posted December 23, 2018 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lala,

can you find any explanation for this in my chart?


Common theme I've noticed so far is either with Capricorn, Pisces or Aquarius. In general, not fiery charts.
For you personally, you have Saturn opposite Mars (sex drive), but that's not relationships per se, though an important component.

However, the opposite house has Libra, which is about relationships. Saturn is conjunct Jupiter there, which has an interesting effect (one expands, the other binds). The opposition here looks to indicate that you in some way actually "push" relationships away. Do you have some preconceived notions on relationships that could perhaps have made you reluctant? On top of that, you've got Moon sq Pluto also in Libra = too much intensity from another person can be quite intimidating. You really need someone to make you feel safe, in a big way. Not very trusting by nature. Also possibly a fear of becoming "delusional" in love (not seeing them clearly and getting hurt).

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posted December 23, 2018 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Common theme I've noticed so far is either with Capricorn, Pisces or Aquarius. In general, not fiery charts.
For you personally, you have Saturn opposite Mars (sex drive), but that's not relationships per se, though an important component.


However, the opposite house has Libra, which is about relationships. Saturn is conjunct Jupiter there, which has an interesting effect (one expands, the other binds). The opposition here looks to indicate that you in some way actually "push" relationships away. Do you have some preconceived notions on relationships that could perhaps have made you reluctant? On top of that, you've got Moon sq Pluto also in Libra = too much intensity from another person can be quite intimidating. You really need someone to make you feel safe, in a big way. Not very trusting by nature. Also possibly a fear of becoming "delusional" in love (not seeing them clearly and getting hurt).


I wouldn't say I pushed them away. I just felt that I needed to get my issues sorted first and only then I can have a satisfying relationship. I went through a very extreme dark night of the soul that lasted over a decade (i mentioned that in other threads) and during this time I got "cleaned out", shedded my old skin, however you wanna call it. Painful as hell and I don't know how I survived it but I did. And since then I'm much more emotionally balanced and healthy.
I do have a healthy sex drive but the whole relationship thing never made any sense to me before..
I have one now but it is long distance so we both have our freedom which is great.
And no, I'm not very trusting haha, still not.

Edit: the Mars Saturn opposite is very wide though. Astro.com doesn't count it as an aspect and I can't relate to it myself.
As for Saturn con Jupiter, I read that it's good if Jupiter is behind Saturn degree wise as the optimistic Jupiter is pushing Saturn instead of being restricted by his energy

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posted December 23, 2018 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see the part of luck in these charts. Venus square/opposite/quintile POF can create a feeling of being doomed in love (perhaps not the same as OP asks about being uninterested..)

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posted December 23, 2018 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't see the part of luck in these charts. Venus square/opposite/quintile POF can create a feeling of being doomed in love (perhaps not the same as OP asks about being uninterested..)

My POF is trine sun, moon, Venus and AC. I could always have men, never had a problem attracting them and for the most part they wanted a relationship, but I was never interested in relationships

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posted December 23, 2018 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double posting
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posted December 23, 2018 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I went through a very extreme dark night of the soul that lasted over a decade (i mentioned that in other threads) and during this time I got "cleaned out", shedded my old skin, however you wanna call it. Painful as hell and I don't know how I survived it but I did.

Oh, really? I'm curious about this dark night of the soul you speak of, and how you endured it. How did it change you? If you have links to previous threads, I can read up about it there. I know of a friend who is going through something similar, maybe it could help me understand better.

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posted December 23, 2018 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh, really? I'm curious about this dark night of the soul you speak of, and how you endured it. How did it change you? If you have links to previous threads, I can read up about it there. I know of a friend who is going through something similar, maybe it could help me understand better.

I created a thread with the beginning of this dark night asking if that can be explained astrologically but didn't get any answers.
I was 21 when it started. It was september 2002 and that night I had nightmare after nightmare, panic attacks, feelings of despair, you name it. It was a slow downward spiral if you will since March that year and it culminated in september. I remember someone stroking my shoulder that night (noone else was in the room) and usually I'd freak out but it didn't bother me at all because I was so immersed in the terror and despair I was feeling at that time. The next morning I woke up, I felt so heavy on my chest and shoulders and an inner voice said "hard times are ahead of you" in a very matter of fact type of way and I knew it was true. What followed were feelings of dying while being inside of my body and consequently being reborn. It really felt like dying. I actually physically felt like I'm shedding my skin, like a snake. I had panic or anxiety attacks, daily and this went on for many years. Feelings of confusion, not knowing what I want, who I was and where I was going, like walking through thick fog. Despair and hopelesness were prevalent. But I felt somewhere deep down that this was not a mental/emotional disease but that it was a phase of getting cleaned out and it was more spiritual than anything. It was a rollercoaster ride to say the least.
Many years later I read a book about the dark night of the soul and it very much resonated with me. Also, some years ago, I came across the Ascension process which resonates, too. Maybe both are somehow connected.
Anyway, during this phase I also met my twin flame in 2006 and every pain intensified. It was absolute hell (we were energetically connected and I helped out clean his crap which accelerated my healing at the same time). It was so painful I really don't know how I survived that. It was in 2006 when I felt the Kundalini awaken and that was connected to my twin flame connection.
During this dark night I did get moments where I received a little pre-taste of how I would be feeling once this process is over. Probably to keep me on this Earth lol. To reassure me that my intuition was right, because frankly every doctor would have prescribed me some pills to get that under control, but I just knew it wasn't any type of disorder (actually I did go to my GP at the beginning of this phase and he gave me some psychotropic drugs, I threw them away and didnt use any of it). And those short little foretastes during that time really felt exactly how I am feeling most of the time now. So my intuition was right.
How it changed me? I'm definitely much more balanced emotionally. I have processed my stuck emotions ( they just came out to be re-felt and released), dealt with past trauma, I had to face myself totally (the tf thing was complete mirroring which was so painful then - but healing in the long term) so I definitely gained a lot of self awareness. I have gained a space within me that calm and hopefull and just knows everything is alright.

What is important to note is that in week 3 into this process I had something people would call a enlightment experience. I had a thought that created this light bulb moment (it was connected to the pain I was feeling, unfortunately I forgot what the thought was) and in that moment when things became clear I felt this absolute all-encompassing love, I felt that everything is an extension of me and I am within this I AM at the same time. It was truly amazing. The following weeks I tried to get that experience back but I didnÄt work. But I'll definitely never forget it.

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