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fierystellium
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posted December 30, 2018 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, all. I’m new of course, but I’ve been surfing through these forums for months (more like year lol) after delving into astrology as a serious subject. This past year I had... like the worst heartbreak ever. We were deeply in love, but had so many stalemates and just overall tension from even past relations that we brought into ours. We were... quite immature, especially me, the younger one in the relation and In January, after an explosive, heated fight, we separated. I left his place (we were staying together). I guess I’ll be even more transparent and say I went on an ego trip afterwards to cope, retreating to Arian behavior as rebuttal, rejecting his advancements and screening his pursuits to get me back as “Aquarian manipulation”, although he’s never quite been the type, to me personally. I pushed him away like crazy. I have a Cap Moon and my guard was up at the wrong time, of course. After much resistance and bruteness from my side, he ends up in a new relationship... planning to relocate about two weeks later, with her, whom he’s never met.
Needless to say, I fell apart inside.
I attempted passive aggressive forms of winning him back and he resisted, consistently offering friendship instead. The primal urges in me couldn’t accept it, and in a trance we continued to argue and attack, build walls up towards each other, and the whole works until he decided we shouldn’t see each other. The following day, he inquires to me if I knocked on his door. I declined. That was about... 7, 8 months ago.
Now, perhaps the natural thing would be to tell me let it go, but he’s stalked my social media, flooded me with compliments during our last moments of seeing each other in person, even while having this new girl, even confessing that as much as he likes her, he wishes “this didn’t happen” as in our breakup. And overall showed signs of someone who was using “relocating” as an escape route from what was happening in the city.
Perhaps I’m overhrinking. But that’s why I’m asking for second, third, and many more opinions from whoever is reading this.


I’m sorry if this was long, but let me paraphrase; we haven’t been in contact since May. It was a two- year relationship. I’ve met other men, dated, and all since our separation, but I cannot shake the feeling of him being my soulmate, “the one” I suppose. I mean that as non- cliché as possible. I was the destructive party of the relationship, and eventually after I simmered down I began taking responsibility for that... I have urges to reach out to him, at least to give a mature apology, but... I need answers. More than just the speculation I’ve been coming up with. I’m a little stuck on what to take as far as action. I could wait... years for us to reunite.
I’ve never felt this way about anyone else.

Is there... any chance of reconciliation?

It was like... he was more than just my lover. He was my best friend.

If you feel you can’t answer that, tell me what you’re seeing. Anything. I’d love to read from more experienced and educated astrologers, because even though I know a lot of stuff, there is always someone who knows more.

I will attach our natal charts, synastry, composite, and progressed composite.

Thank you so much for reading!

My natal:

His:

Synastry:

Composite:

Progressed Composite:

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vansio
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posted December 30, 2018 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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fierystellium
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posted December 30, 2018 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Your links aren’t working on my phone. Is there anyway you can post them directly to the forum? [IMG ] [/IMG ]

Try now

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posted December 30, 2018 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remove the "s"(after "http") in each link.

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Originally posted by fierystellium:
Try now


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posted December 31, 2018 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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fierystellium
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posted December 31, 2018 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Remove the "s"(after "http") in each link.


Okay, I did it. Should be working now (I hope)

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fierystellium
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posted December 31, 2018 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Sorry to hear you're going through a massive heartbreak like this. I feel for you, really - I have been going through a similar circumstance this year. I've cried every day for the last five months.

I'm not sure if its possible to find specific clues into reconciliation in charts (wish I knew). If anyone has an inkling please do share. What's given me peace of mind is knowing how much fate brought me and this person together, and similarly that fate also pulled us apart (in my case i believe it was karma - divine intervention to say the least - i was left for another woman, eclipsed out). New fundamental lessons were meant to be engaged in and learned from - thats why it was so beautiful from the start, why they became your best friend at this pivotal time, to get that close so we can actually learn something, something that deeply needed to build and release.

Following transits to find out what the culprit may have been to cause such unsettling dynamics... He had Saturn squaring his Venus around the time you broke up - this can be a heartbreaking aspect. Saturn also squaring your mercury so the way you relate to your mind is being challenged. Makes sense why you shut down communication - it was necessary for you. Lesson.

With all things affected by Saturn (Chronos), your best mantra is to give the new chapter (dealing with your memories) the time it is asking for. I know that seems really annoying to hear because you want instant gratification and eventual reconciliation (trust me - i'm with you), but Saturn was at play here and its not going to let you take the wheel on it's drive.

I'll add - closely following the near future transits of my beloved ex (Saturn square Ascendent, Moon, and Venus, Saturn opposite Chiron, Chiron square Saturn) I remind myself that as much as I love him and what we had/did together - technically, I do not want to be in his line of fire for this upcoming struggle of his life. Really, karma.

If reconciliation is what you want, you’re going to have to let the old ties (attachments) fade. Like slash-and-burn argriculture (hello capricorn poetry), the next seeds can be planted only until everything is burned away.


So would you say he’s following an upcoming transit similar to your ex?
I ask because I felt premonition of karma coming towards him but couldn’t pinpoint astrologically why I was feeling that. He has his natal Saturn opposing Chiron.
I feel time may be ideal, as well. His new s/o will be approaching a Saturn Return and his is shortly after, so there’s may be happening during the same time.

Thank you for your input

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vansio
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posted December 31, 2018 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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fierystellium
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posted December 31, 2018 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
In the case of my ex, he's about to have Saturn square his natal Venus - whereas your guy was having it during your upsets - its since moved on. My ex also started his Saturn Return at the beginning of this year, hitting his Moon and Ascendant leading to our seperation. I'm now following his Saturn-Venus, Saturn-Chiron, Chiron-Saturn (heartbreak aspects in magi) that will happen all throughout 2019 for my guy. Chiron is also opposite his Moon at the moment. His crush will have Pluto and Saturn conjunct her Venus and her own Saturn Return in the following year, so my curiosity in the name of astrology is certainly peaked.

Uranus also had something to do with the affair - can't remember off the top of my head, but it's still in effect - and curious whether the cloud nine will dissolve when the transit moves on.

In the back of my mind I am anticipating two things, either they break up because the natural order of transgressions, or they stick together and are meant to be. Simple.

Saturn return can cause two things, seperations or more commitment if both parties are willing... I haven't personally gone through it, but from what I've heard from timeline of close older guy friends, a handful of them left long-term relationships when Saturn return began to pursue fatal women that ended dramatically towards the end. None of these men are with the women they met at that time - but consensus is was deeply transformative experience (not/for the best).

Looking at your chart, transiting Saturn was aspecting (square) your composite Chiron when your breakup happened.

It's been said to not really commit to anyone for pragmatic "forever" until after the Saturn return cycle, which is officially seasoned after 33 years old. That most relationships leading up to this age will be karmic contracts to work through as we evolve into a next Saturn phase. Considering that you're younger than me, seems as if we've got a few more trials to go through before we can sensibly make this kind of offer to another person.

Natally, I have Saturn conjunct my Aquarius Sun, Moon in Capricorn, and Saturn trine Venus - so I'm not sure whether this means I'm in for my own, or if I'll pass gracefully through my Saturn return. Obviously bypassing is not an option.


Yeah we both have Saturn/ Sun conjunction as well, mine in Aries, his in Aquarius. His Venus in Aries, mine Pisces, but the composite held a massive stellium in Pisces, all conjuncting Saturn in the 1st lol
Man it was so much going on during the first half of 2018. It’s like now after it’s all said and done we seemed to be two parties who came together prematurely and needed some time apart to, well, grow and evolve. I’ve read there can be a “binding” feel when it comes to Saturn- like a tug at the internal towards the other person
I can be abrupt to cut communication- I think it has something to do with my Mercury Rx natally too.

I forgot to add the Juno asteroids, but his (and Mars) conjuncts my AC and mine his Moon and MC, which is also on my North Node.

Saturn Trine Venus? What house? Usually that can give a relationship all about checks and balances, and boundaries, especially with the Cap Moon :0

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posted December 31, 2018 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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fierystellium
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posted January 01, 2019 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Correction, its Saturn sextile Venus, not trine. (My Saturn was trine my ex's venus - we had venus opposite venus in synastry.)

My Saturn/Sun in the 9th house sextile Venus in the 10/11th.

I think your ex was born 10 days before me. how funny


His is in the 3rd

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posted January 01, 2019 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Correction, its Saturn sextile Venus, not trine. (My Saturn was trine my ex's venus - we had venus opposite venus in synastry.)

My Saturn/Sun in the 9th house sextile Venus in the 10/11th.

I think your ex was born 10 days before me. how funny


We had Venus conjunct Mercury very tightly- the intellectual conversations were amazing!

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posted January 01, 2019 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Correction, its Saturn sextile Venus, not trine. (My Saturn was trine my ex's venus - we had venus opposite venus in synastry.)

My Saturn/Sun in the 9th house sextile Venus in the 10/11th.

I think your ex was born 10 days before me. how funny


Maybe? He was born February 9th

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posted January 05, 2019 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 09, 2019 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 10, 2019 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'am sorry you're dealing with this now. But if an Aqua has made up their mind, that's that.

We get pushed too many times, but the last push is final.

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posted January 10, 2019 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Welcome!

Thank you! Glad to be here!

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posted January 10, 2019 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fierystellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
I'am sorry you're dealing with this now. But if an Aqua has made up their mind, that's that.

We get pushed too many times, but the last push is final.


I couldn’t help myself. The soul tie felt too deep. I reached out to him..

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