posted January 15, 2019 02:55 AM            

Anyway, I can only tell you from a Gemini Venus woman's perspective and you should also look at what Mercury is saying in their charts especially since it rules Gemini.

For me, Mercury is my chart ruler so it enhances my need for intellectual compatibility. And personally I like complex (even dark) psychological topics so if they can engage me in this, it's a HUGE attraction point.

My Mercury is also sextile Saturn so he must have a serious, logical mind. I'm extremely put off by lame, frivolous talk or people who are mentally all over the place.

posted January 15, 2019 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Mercury square Venus is actually not an extremely challenging aspect.

Anyway, I can only tell you from a Gemini Venus woman's perspective and you should also look at what Mercury is saying in their charts especially since it rules Gemini.

For me, Mercury is my chart ruler so it enhances my need for intellectual compatibility. And personally I like complex (even dark) psychological topics so if they can engage me in this, it's a HUGE attraction point.

My Mercury is also sextile Saturn so he must have a serious, logical mind. I'm extremely put off by lame, frivolous talk or people who are mentally all over the place.

Now about Gemini Venus... we're typically witty, chatty, humorous and we like clever partners. If I serve a ball at him, he must be able to hit it back. I'm not afraid of mental sparring. I'm afraid of intellectual boredom.

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It’s not Venus square Mercury it’s Mercury square Mercury and Mars square Mercury. These aspects in synastry tend to make communication difficult. I thought since I have Mars in Gemini that would be the compatibility in regards to his Venus. But I think the Venus/Venus aspect is more potent. He’s a Gemini sun but his Ascendant is in Cancer so his chart ruler is the Moon. My chart ruler is the Sun. And there is a trine from my Sun to his Moon. He has Mercury and Mars in Cancer semi-square Venus in his chart. So this may make a difference he’s muteable too so that’s another thing. We do like the same things so I guess this helps.

posted January 15, 2019 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I was told that they wouldn’t stay with someone who they don’t have good communication with. So having harsh Mercury aspects with someone with Venus in Gemini wouldn’t work and they would leave. Being as though the communication wouldn’t be good. That’s what I was told by someone. Is this usually the case?

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posted January 15, 2019 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
My boyfriend has Venus in Gemini and he said the same thing. It's a deal-breaker for him. Communication to him means being able to talk about your feelings openly with each other. He attracted a lot of Pluto/Scorpio influenced girls back then. He hated that they would keep secrets from him, especially when he's the problem that's bothering them.

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posted January 15, 2019 12:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I second Mercury-Venus to be not that bad. I find Mercury square Sun or Mercury square Mars to be worse. Squares to benefics don't seem to be as bad as the malefics or the luminaries. Mercury square Venus, in my experience, the Mercury person just tends to say whatever the Venus person wants to hear. Or it could manifest differently where the Mercury person criticizes the Venus person's aesthetic taste to or relationships. This is how I've experienced it, at least. I've been Mercury and Venus with different people.

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posted January 15, 2019 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
[b] My boyfriend has Venus in Gemini and he said the same thing. It's a deal-breaker for him. Communication to him means being able to talk about your feelings openly with each other. He attracted a lot of Pluto/Scorpio influenced girls back then. He hated that they would keep secrets from him, especially when he's the problem that's bothering them.

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Oh okay I see. I think my boyfriend just thinks this way because he has Moon in the 7th. That's how he releases his frustrations.

But from what he's said to me so far is that he doesn't really like girls that have no substance, nothing to talk about. He walked out on a date once because the girl barely talked to him and then she pulled out her phone while eating. So yes, communication either way is important.

Idk if it's his Gemini ascendant or Venus, but damn, he talks A LOT. His best friend too, who has the same Venus and also Mercury in Gemini, talks so much, if not even more. You can barely have peace and quiet when you're with them. There's always gotta be a topic. If not, they are on their phones preoccupied with the internet. They're either reading articles, browsing through online stores, going on forums, looking at memes, watching informational videos, etc.

posted January 15, 2019 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Oh okay I see. I think my boyfriend just thinks this way because he has Moon in the 7th. That's how he releases his frustrations.

But from what he's said to me so far is that he doesn't really like girls that have no substance, nothing to talk about. He walked out on a date once because the girl barely talked to him and then she pulled out her phone while eating. So yes, communication either way is important.

Idk if it's his Gemini ascendant or Venus, but damn, he talks A LOT. His best friend too, who has the same Venus and also Mercury in Gemini, talks so much, if not even more. You can barely have peace and quiet when you're with them. There's always gotta be a topic. If not, they are on their phones preoccupied with the internet. They're either reading articles, browsing through online stores, going on forums, looking at memes, watching informational videos, etc.

And they seem to like women who challenge them intellectually.

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posted January 15, 2019 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Could it be the Venus placement? In the 12th house.

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Very possible. The house placement does drastically alter the energy of the planet. He might be shy showing that Venus in Gemini side of him. I read that Venus in the 12th tend to keep their hobbies and the things they like to themselves.

In this article, it says there's guilt that comes with their pleasures.

https://theastrocodex.com/natal-venus-in-the-12th-house/

There is shyness in general with this placement. With Venus being in Gemini, I theorize he might be shy with communicating because he feels he might annoy people. Or maybe he likes too many things and feels that people might judge him for them or his ideas. In relationships, he might spend more time fantasizing about his dream girl (or girls) than actually meeting people. The article also states there's a possibility for secret affairs.

posted January 15, 2019 03:49 PM            

Someone may have their Venus in Gemini on steroids (well-aspected, well-integrated into the rest of their chart) so they really appreciate and admire a communicative partner, but have a very challenged Mercury (little or no aspects, harsh squares) and have a difficult time reciprocating with the same vigor. This is made even worse if their Mercury is not well-integrated into their synastry with another person.

So to attract a witty, intellectual partner is one thing, but keeping that person's interest is another when they have little to give back in the way of stimulating or interesting conversation.

posted January 15, 2019 03:59 PM            

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Very possible. The house placement does drastically alter the energy of the planet. He might be shy showing that Venus in Gemini side of him. I read that Venus in the 12th tend to keep their hobbies and the things they like to themselves.

In this article, it says there's guilt that comes with their pleasures.

https://theastrocodex.com/natal-venus-in-the-12th-house/

There is shyness in general with this placement. With Venus being in Gemini, I theorize he might be shy with communicating because he feels he might annoy people. Or maybe he likes too many things and feels that people might judge him for them or his ideas. In relationships, he might spend more time fantasizing about his dream girl (or girls) than actually meeting people. The article also states there's a possibility for secret affairs.

I think you would need to get to know him better to uncover that side of him. I find the 12th and the 8th houses to be the trickiest to read. Because these are parts of someone they don't show unless you're close enough to take a peek.

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posted January 15, 2019 04:05 PM            

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In my experience there's an odd contradiction with these folks when you factor in their Mercury because Venus in Gemini represents what they LIKE (communication) but doesn't necessarily represent how THEY themselves communicate (Mercury).

Someone may have their Venus in Gemini on steroids (well-aspected, well-integrated into the rest of their chart) so they really appreciate and admire a communicative partner, but have a very challenged Mercury (little or no aspects, harsh squares) and have a difficult time reciprocating with the same vigor. This is made even worse if their Mercury is not well-integrated into their synastry with another person.

So to attract a witty, intellectual partner is one thing, but keeping that person's interest is another when they have little to give back in the way of stimulating or interesting conversation.

To examine Venus on its own is too simplistic. You have to factor in the rest of the natal chart as well to see what colours their personality.

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posted January 15, 2019 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
I personally have moon in Gemini, so I generally find Gemini energy a little bit exhausting -probably because it's familiar-. I also find heavily Gemini men a little bit flaky too.

That said, how would you guys read a guy whose Venus is in Gemini buuuut... in 8th house? I feel like the 8th house and Gemini are such opposite moods

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posted January 15, 2019 06:13 PM            

I can't understand what makes him like this. He is a compulsive talker in the flesh. He goes on and on and on and always tire people of his constant compulsive chatter! He is such a kind and helpful and sweet guy though, really kind hearted. And he has a baby face for real, so one can't be harsh on him haha.

His chart confuses me, like where does this compulsive talking come from?! And he has a stellium in Taurus for crying out loud! And Scorpio moon conjunct Pluto, like wtf?! haha

And I have myself a gemini stellium myself and I'm not a compulsive talker and yes, not your typical gemini energy of course since they are opposite saturn-uranus etc

His venus is in his 12th house, and only aspects Saturn by a square. And inconj moon. If his birth time is a bit off, Venus could be in his 11th house.

posted January 15, 2019 06:22 PM            

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Of course. The house energy trumps the sign - A planets aspects to an other planet/planets comes first. Then the house energy. At third place is the sign energy.
A gemini venus in 8th will NOT be your typical gemini venus. It will be very heavy scorpio/pluto energies tinged with gemini etc, (I'm oversimplifying of course but you got the ideaa )

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REALLY? I never heard that before! I actually thought the opposite - as in, the sign would more intensely inform their love nature. Thank you for sharing that.

posted January 15, 2019 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Of course. The house energy trumps the sign - A planets aspects to an other planet/planets comes first. Then the house energy. At third place is the sign energy.
A gemini venus in 8th will NOT be your typical gemini venus. It will be very heavy scorpio/pluto energies tinged with gemini etc, (I'm oversimplifying of course but you got the ideaa )

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posted January 15, 2019 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What do you think someone with Venus in Gemini in the 12th house would be like?

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posted January 15, 2019 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Can I also have a go? I feel like Gemini and the 12th are another one of those mismatchy mood pairings, here a sense of unworth and fear of loneliness would either manifest as lots of casual relationships that are purposefully superficial or one big, secret one. I feel like they wouldn't be fully comfortable expressing their identity as a lover until they master the art of reading their own emotions, and taking time to understand why they act/love the way they do (possibly through therapy or counselling).

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posted January 16, 2019 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
This doesn't sound good seems like it would be best to avoid this person.

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You shouldn't just based on one placement/aspect and write people off and also don't take everything you read "wholesale" because these websites usually list all the possible scenarios so you're gonna find some that are true and some not.

He sounds heavily Cancerian... how about your chart? Cancer and Gemini have very different energies, I must say, but it is not unworkable. Cancer Mercury will not bare their heart and soul unless they feel extremely comfortable and safe. Also, him having so many Cancer planets I'm doubtful he likes so much personal space because Cancerians crave intimacy and closeness or they feel insecure. I don't know how much "space" you require but just bear that in mind if you wanna date him.

All those Mercury squares you mentioned... is it all to his Mercury? If yes, then it doesn't look too positive. His Cancer Mercury might become moody and withdrawn. What's your Mercury sign?

Venus/Mars aspect is more about sexual attraction, not communication.