posted January 16, 2019 11:40 AM            

t.Pluto/Saturn/South Node are now touring his 7th house.

t.Saturn is aspecting all his angles and squaring his Moon/Pluto/Nodes.

t.Pluto square his IC/MC/Moon/Pluto.

t.Uranus passing over his natal MC, oppose his IC, conjunct his Chiron.

In a couple months, t.Nodes are also gonna aspect his Asc/Dsc, square Moon/Pluto.

I also checked his SR Chart and it shows SR Uranus opposite SR Venus with SR Saturn in 7th house.

I understand that Saturn/Pluto transits to 7th house will bring emphasis to partnerships - for good or bad - but I just think that's too many coming together.

When my friend divorced, transit Nodes were touching all her angles with Saturn/Uranus squaring her Moon. And the last time I ended a long-term relationship, t.Saturn was making hard aspects to all my angles, t.Uranus square my Moon/Venus and t.Nodes square my Asc/Dsc.

There were always multiple hard aspects to angles/Moon/Venus by transit Saturn/Pluto/Uranus/Nodes.

posted January 19, 2019 08:54 AM            

With Pluto transiting the 7th, if the relationship he is in is rocky to begin with, Pluto will stress the need for change. Whether it's within the relationship or leaving it altogether.

Pluto to moon intensifies this need for change in his case. It may be that the marriage is not emotionally fulfilling and he is being asked with the transits to step back and take an inventory of what is missing.

posted January 20, 2019 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Hi there. When outer planets make hard aspects to the angles, it acts as a catalyst to one's life.

With Pluto transiting the 7th, if the relationship he is in is rocky to begin with, Pluto will stress the need for change. Whether it's within the relationship or leaving it altogether.

Pluto to moon intensifies this need for change in his case. It may be that the marriage is not emotionally fulfilling and he is being asked with the transits to step back and take an inventory of what is missing.

It is possible to stay together in marriage with these transits, but if there's no work around between the two, chances are it will dissolve.

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posted January 30, 2019 04:53 PM            

Pluto opposite natal Venus (wayward spouse)
Uranus square natal Saturn (both partners at same time)
Pluto opposite natal Saturn (betrayed spouse)

posted January 31, 2019 04:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Capguy75:

eta: This has just made me realise something: I've always considered Saturn/Venus conjunction to be a good bedrock for a committed relationship. In this case it looks like transiting Pluto came along, opposed it and unglued the whole thing.

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posted January 31, 2019 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
As in Saturn-Venus in synastry?

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There was more than that going on, mind. I actually got the above a little wrong I realised now: one did have Uranus squaring Saturn (in Cancer) but it was actually both our Venuses it was squaring at the same time.

posted January 31, 2019 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Capguy75:
Yes - one partner's Saturn was conjunct the others Venus, in this case in Cancer. Whether coincidence or not, it was when Pluto transiting Capricorn moved into opposition with the conjunction that things started to fall apart. I only actually discovered this after the event.

There was more than that going on, mind. I actually got the above a little wrong I realised now: one did have Uranus squaring Saturn (in Cancer) but it was actually both our Venuses it was squaring at the same time.

As I've written about elsewhere, Jupiter also appeared to trigger events. The partner who had the affair has both Pluto and Uranus in their 5th house. Jupiter was transiting it at the same time this was going on. When Jupiter conjunct Pluto was when she first started the affair. When it conjunct Uranus was when everything finally blew up and we separated. Again, I only discovered this after the event. It was - and remains - incredibly spooky in its timing.

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posted February 01, 2019 07:57 AM            

Obviously these couples probably experienced rough patches during these times, but they got through.

Divorce is a choice, choosing to marry somebody to whom you are genuinely committed to through thick and thin is also a choice (one which difficult to predict if you marry young).

For those who have married in haste, or for the fantasy wedding, we could expect to see Uranus and/or Neptune in their charts at the time. The absence of this transit could cause the relationship collapse! Sometimes what's *not* there is as important as what is!

A Pluto transit could make a relationship deeper and more intimate, or it could bring up psychological issues which one of the parties decides they cannot deal with; in themselves or the other!

The truth is divorce is a choice, and getting closer to your partner is the other side of that choice. Sure a Uranus transit may mean that you need time apart, a Neptune transit may have one of the parties needing more romance, or beauty around them. The key is whether or not the couple love each other enough to adapt to these changes.

I do believe astrology is fate though too. Somebody with a stellium in the 7th being opposed Saturn for instance, could just need to 'find themselves' so much that any relationship would suffer. In a true love bond that couple would probably reunite after the event however.

Love *does* find a way, if it's important enough in the focus. To really determine whether a couple will break up, it's important to look at what made them get together in the first place! Then at the chart attributes which could trigger separation, we all have some, and whether these are indicted.

It's a complex subject, but isn't that why astrology is so wonderful?

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posted February 01, 2019 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by waxlobster:

A Pluto transit could make a relationship deeper and more intimate, or it could bring up psychological issues which one of the parties decides they cannot deal with; in themselves or the other!

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posted February 02, 2019 06:21 AM            

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Originally posted by waxlobster:
For every divorce type transit, it is worth noting that there are many couples who stay together for 50 or 60 years and endured.

Obviously these couples probably experienced rough patches during these times, but they got through.

Divorce is a choice, choosing to marry somebody to whom you are genuinely committed to through thick and thin is also a choice (one which difficult to predict if you marry young).

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My OP is mainly asking about the commonly-seen transits of separations and divorces, but I really like your positive spin.

Still, the truth is there are many many divorcees out there now and not all married in haste. My cousin and his ex-wife dated for 2yrs before marrying but their marriage only lasted 3yrs. My friend and her ex-husband met in Uni, married at 27yo, divorced at 43yo. I've many other examples.

The 'together forever' couples you mentioned are mostly from earlier generations. Not that younger couples don't stay together but it's much less seen now.

posted February 02, 2019 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:

Things don't happen overnight and there's always a triggering point. Most divorces take years to culminate. If one doesn't work towards a resolution, then a disintegration is likely to happen. A divorced friend told me "you can't find back what you have lost". In my friend's case, things definitely did not happen suddenly.

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While this is true, it's often (at least in my experience) a lot more complex and sometimes under the radar then people realise. I always had an expectation that, if I was to divorce, there would be a gradual deterioration. People often expect couples must have been arguing for years or sleeping in seperate beds before they finally decide to call it quits. And whilst there *are* plenty of marriages that go that way, many are "midlife crisis" style break-ups where one partner just gets blind-sided.

How often do you hear of couples divorcing who everyone thinks "OMG! But they seemed so happy! They're the last people we thought would split up! They never argue about anything!"?

posted February 03, 2019 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Capguy75:
While this is true, it's often (at least in my experience) a lot more complex and sometimes under the radar then people realise.

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There are always tell-tale signs. People don't suddenly wake up one morning and decided they want a divorce (this is not in the majority of cases I've seen). They must have been mulling over it for a period of time. The issue must have been brewing, at least with one party. There are always traces.

Most couples argue, some don't, and the latter (unless they're genuinely coexisting peacefully) is actually a big red flag like you said. Not sure about your case but the cases I've seen is usually because they've given up hope. A friend told me that the day she stopped arguing with her ex-husband, she knew their marriage was over. Yet, it took her another few more years to eventually divorced. I've a friend who's also planning to divorce. She has stopped arguing with her husband since 3yrs ago as she said it's not worth her effort anymore.

posted January 05, 2024 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by waxlobster:
For every divorce type transit, it is worth noting that there are many couples who stay together for 50 or 60 years and endured.

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