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posted September 03, 2013 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what does it mean if your mars square both north and south nodes of your partner in synastry by 1 degree separating and -1 degree separating respectively?

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NickiG
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posted September 03, 2013 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your drive may be in conflict with his or her purpose in life

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted September 03, 2013 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take the NN seriously. I would not get into a relationship with a serious square to the NN but that is one person;s opinion.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about mars trine north node?
What orb factor should i use when calculating synastry in astrodienst? (reduce/increase orb 0-150 degree)

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posted September 03, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So square to the Nodes are bad. It makes sense sense now. So what would be the difference between Chiron conjunct South Node, North Node or square the Nodes in synastry.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astrolog:
what about mars trine north node?
What orb factor should i use when calculating synastry in astrodienst? (reduce/increase orb 0-150 degree)

A tribe is very harmonious, your drive would strengthen your partner

I use a 5 degree orb, but the orbs depend on the astrologer

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted September 03, 2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xena:
So square to the Nodes are bad. It makes sense sense now. So what would be the difference between Chiron conjunct South Node, North Node or square the Nodes in synastry.

With chiron it suggests healing needs to be done, in such you will have to confront those issues, depending which node its conjunct. Conjunct SN, healing from your past needs to be done. Conjunct NN, decisions need to be confronted about the future. Square could suggest some sort of confliction with the future or life goal

At least, those are the feelings I had gotten

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted September 03, 2013 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it means 50% right

quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
A tribe is very harmonious, your drive would strengthen your partner

I use a 5 degree orb, but the orbs depend on the astrologer


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posted September 03, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astrolog:
So it means 50% right


Huh?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted September 03, 2013 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The square to the nodes doesn`t have to be bad, but it depends on the planet, its overall involvement int he charts and the dispositor of the nodes, too.

As a matter of fact a planet in square to the Nodes, is actually on the midpoint of the nodal axis (if using very tight orbs obviously, 3-4 degrees), and thus rerpresents a focal point.

It is where the past (SN) meets the future (NN).
As a matter of fact, through this degree/ position the planets sits on the way from the past into the future can be made. The integration of what you already know and can use and what you are in need to learn and grow into.
The synastric planet there thus becomes like a burning lense of that integration.
In facing it (Mars in this instance) you might become aware of where you are really supposed to go and what you need to leave behind. And Mars can be a bit of a kick to your bum in doing that.

The conjunctions to either node as well as the squares come up in relationships, that will leave an impact on us and make us grow, some sort of transformation or growing will take place, even if we do not like it always.

Mars in aspect to the nodes is very energetic. The nodes represents the relationship between Sun and Moon, and now imagine Mars triggering it all.

However, I have also found that Neptune in square to the Nodes or on the South Node (on the NN it seems to be more manageable) occurs quite often in relationship that fail on a great scale, sometimes ending in tragedies even, sometimes just bringing huge disillusionment and disappointment. The other planets will give the details to that.

However I have not found that to be true with other planets, no, not even Saturn. As a matter of fact Saturn in aspect to the nodes can be extremely binding, interestingly it seems to be especiaslly the case with Saturn on SN, but it could be that this just turned up more often in my lists.

But personal planets in square to the nodal axis - yeah, give me something of that! I love it.
It is the kick I need to get out of my comfort zone (with Mars), or makes me aware where I really belong (Moon) or who I am, where I shine (Sun), what my values are and what i Need in relationships (Venus) and so on.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with ceridwen...sometimes we need that energy, a swift kick in the butt depending where we are at in life, can prove to be very beneficial.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
With chiron it suggests healing needs to be done, in such you will have to confront those issues, depending which node its conjunct. Conjunct SN, healing from your past needs to be done. Conjunct NN, decisions need to be confronted about the future. Square could suggest some sort of confliction with the future or life goal

At least, those are the feelings I had gotten


So this means that with planets square to the Nodes you are "stuck" will the energy of the planets (it doesn't make you feel comfortable about the past but it also doesn't allow you to grow into the future). With Chiron square Nodes in synastry you could be stuck in pain/healing theme (like you are stuck on a roundabout and you can't get off)

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posted September 03, 2013 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it means 50% right

quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
A tribe is very harmonious, your drive would strengthen your partner

I use a 5 degree orb, but the orbs depend on the astrologer


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posted September 03, 2013 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The square to the nodes doesn`t have to be bad, but it depends on the planet, its overall involvement int he charts and the dispositor of the nodes, too.

As a matter of fact a planet in square to the Nodes, is actually on the midpoint of the nodal axis (if using very tight orbs obviously, 3-4 degrees), and thus rerpresents a focal point.

It is where the past (SN) meets the future (NN).
As a matter of fact, through this degree/ position the planets sits on the way from the past into the future can be made. The integration of what you already know and can use and what you are in need to learn and grow into.
The synastric planet there thus becomes like a burning lense of that integration.
In facing it (Mars in this instance) you might become aware of where you are really supposed to go and what you need to leave behind. And Mars can be a bit of a kick to your bum in doing that.

The conjunctions to either node as well as the squares come up in relationships, that will leave an impact on us and make us grow, some sort of transformation or growing will take place, even if we do not like it always.

Mars in aspect to the nodes is very energetic. The nodes represents the relationship between Sun and Moon, and now imagine Mars triggering it all.

However, I have also found that Neptune in square to the Nodes or on the South Node (on the NN it seems to be more manageable) occurs quite often in relationship that fail on a great scale, sometimes ending in tragedies even, sometimes just bringing huge disillusionment and disappointment. The other planets will give the details to that.

However I have not found that to be true with other planets, no, not even Saturn. As a matter of fact Saturn in aspect to the nodes can be extremely binding, interestingly it seems to be especiaslly the case with Saturn on SN, but it could be that this just turned up more often in my lists.

But personal planets in square to the nodal axis - yeah, give me something of that! I love it.
It is the kick I need to get out of my comfort zone (with Mars), or makes me aware where I really belong (Moon) or who I am, where I shine (Sun), what my values are and what i Need in relationships (Venus) and so on.

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posted September 03, 2013 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars is square my SN & NN with less than 1 degree orb. That Mars is also square Pluto (which is conjunct the SN) in a 3 degree orb. It all sounds pretty horrendous, but my NN forms a grand trine with my Moon & Neptune.

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posted September 03, 2013 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcmlxix:
My Mars is square my SN & NN with less than 1 degree orb. That Mars is also square Pluto (which is conjunct the SN) in a 3 degree orb. It all sounds pretty horrendous, but my NN forms a grand trine with my Moon & Neptune.

Mine too, haha. You're like my natal chart twin

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posted September 04, 2013 04:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if a Venus 'square b NN using a 4 degree orb, isit consider important? Because I read in astro.com that those aspects with apostrophe should not be taken seriously..see the article below

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posted September 04, 2013 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_legend_e.htm

Enclosed is the link. Any help is much appreciated!

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posted February 20, 2019 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The square to the nodes doesn`t have to be bad, but it depends on the planet, its overall involvement int he charts and the dispositor of the nodes, too.

As a matter of fact a planet in square to the Nodes, is actually on the midpoint of the nodal axis (if using very tight orbs obviously, 3-4 degrees), and thus rerpresents a focal point.

It is where the past (SN) meets the future (NN).
As a matter of fact, through this degree/ position the planets sits on the way from the past into the future can be made. The integration of what you already know and can use and what you are in need to learn and grow into.
The synastric planet there thus becomes like a burning lense of that integration.
In facing it (Mars in this instance) you might become aware of where you are really supposed to go and what you need to leave behind. And Mars can be a bit of a kick to your bum in doing that.

The conjunctions to either node as well as the squares come up in relationships, that will leave an impact on us and make us grow, some sort of transformation or growing will take place, even if we do not like it always.

Mars in aspect to the nodes is very energetic. The nodes represents the relationship between Sun and Moon, and now imagine Mars triggering it all.

However, I have also found that Neptune in square to the Nodes or on the South Node (on the NN it seems to be more manageable) occurs quite often in relationship that fail on a great scale, sometimes ending in tragedies even, sometimes just bringing huge disillusionment and disappointment. The other planets will give the details to that.

However I have not found that to be true with other planets, no, not even Saturn. As a matter of fact Saturn in aspect to the nodes can be extremely binding, interestingly it seems to be especiaslly the case with Saturn on SN, but it could be that this just turned up more often in my lists.

But personal planets in square to the nodal axis - yeah, give me something of that! I love it.
It is the kick I need to get out of my comfort zone (with Mars), or makes me aware where I really belong (Moon) or who I am, where I shine (Sun), what my values are and what i Need in relationships (Venus) and so on.


Thank you for this! Super informative. I really feel your read of it is parallel to my experience in a synastry with Mars sq both SN-NN, zero degrees.

Also perhaps this thread could be moved to Interpersonal Astrology so it can be discussed further?

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