posted February 27, 2019 01:24 AM            

MY NATAL

HIS NATAL

SYNASTRY

COMPOSITE

DAVISON

posted February 27, 2019 02:13 AM            

I know it's not the same, but my ex husband is a Sag Sun (Leo Moon) and I can totally see him do that to those he's flattered by.
A cousin of mine with Sun in the ninth... When I read your post he immediately came to mind.

Unless of course it goes deeper than that... But based off of just this info I wouldn't really take it as a negative.

posted February 27, 2019 03:21 PM            

Does anyone get anything from our charts at all?

Todd are you out there?

I mean, maybe he’s doing the scorpio thing and testing me too 🙄

posted February 27, 2019 04:26 PM            

my first impression is that, since you mentioned your religious connections ,that he decided he is to attracted to you and that he can't make in any serious moves because he doesn't want to get involved in any affair.

the composite shows a t square of Uranus square to the Jupiter/sun opposition infamous Uranus square to Jupiter.
the composite does have that favorable moon/mercury conjunction sextile Saturn and pluto and trine to Neptune/node, but these are not romantic aspects. this pattern pretty much describes the nature of your conversation that laughter and thoughts of goals etc. this has the makings of very good friendship so I would stop considering it for its romantic potential and accept the platonic/spiritual affinity you have for each other.

his chart does have the sun/moon midpoint square to Neptune so he might really be looking for a very fervent religious partner.

posted February 27, 2019 04:51 PM            

Like mars conjunct Venus ?

posted February 28, 2019 03:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hi EmGem,
I'm not an expert in astrology but let's just look at some basics. Firstly, are you still in a relationship? Because you mentioned "short-term affair". Is that what you're looking for? Scorpios don't do that sort of thing. Secondly, Gemini can spend their whole life trying to understand a Scorpio because these are two very different signs. In your synastry they're in an exact quincunx. Sun-Sun incompatibility spells a lack of understanding of each other's basic persona. I know you have Ascendant in Scorpio but Ascendants are usually first impressions. Once they get to know you better, they see the Gemini side of you, and on an even deeper level, they see your Virgo Moon, which again is incompatible with his Leo Moon in terms of sign and modality. I know his Moon sextiles your Sun but to me Moon-Moon compatibility triumphs when you're talking about deep emotional connection.

So my guess is while he's attracted, he's also feeling the incompatibility on a deeper level. So like a Scorpio, he retreats.

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Thanks for taking a look!

posted February 28, 2019 04:33 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Thanks for taking a look!

I only mentioned affair because Todd brought that up. I’m not in a relationship no. Im overseas for I’m not sure how long, but I’m trying to sort out a way to live here for a while. So that may be a big question mark for him.
I’m definitely a relationship type of person. Not short term affairs. It’s the instability of knowing whether I’ll actually be here as to whether it could work. He’s celibate so perhaps that’s a big question mark for him too. If he can’t marry me then what’s the point right. He broke up with his fiancé only months ago too and I know that was a big mess for him.
I’m definitely not a typical Gemini. I certainly feel my ascendant and others too, so I’ve been told., even by people I’m close with. I’ve been told by astrologers that I’m almost a Scorpio because my sun (and mercury) is in my 8th house, trine Pluto.
But yes he may be feeling the incompatibility which is what it is. But I also don’t feel like it’s so black and white because houses and rulers are so important too for compatability as we know. It’s just hard because I don’t have his birth time. We might even end up having moons conjunct for all I know. It certainly felt like it was comfortable for us to share deeply with one another.
We had a great time but hopefully we can be friends because I’ll be seeing him in the community a lot.

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Moon signs compatibility is very important, IMO, esp for an intimate relationship so it's best you find out (at least) his estimate ToB.

House placements give a flavour but it doesn't change the basic nature of that sign. My Taurus Sun is in 12H but does that make me half a Piscean? I don't think so and I also don't "feel" that way. Yes, your Pluto aspects will lend you a plutonic nature but it still operates from a Gemini core.

About the Ascendant... I don't mean that it is merely a facade. What I mean is it's the first thing people notice about you. It makes up roughly 20% of your personality, that's what some astrologers say. But as people know you better, they start to see your Sun & Moon and the latter affects everything you do because we're always compelled by our Moon... it's human nature to do what we feel most comfortable.

Anyway, let's put compatibility aside for now because it isn't your current concern. First you have to get past why he has distanced himself, am I right? LOL. Earlier I was just suggesting what a Scorpio might be thinking.

Now that you've given more details, I think his sudden retreat could be either because he senses a deeper incompatibility or simply the fact that you might be going away. You wouldn't be able to know if you can marry each other just by looking at the charts. Synastry merely shows you compatibility; Composite shows you the relationship potential, and Davison (IMO) shows you how the relationship is likely to pan out in reality.

posted February 28, 2019 02:17 PM            

*sigh* I’m not sure.

Either way I’m feeling deeply rejected and it’s obviously triggering some past hurts in me.

posted March 06, 2019 07:42 AM            

Why don’t you just ask him?
If something bothered me that much, I wouldn’t wait any longer. Everything else is just speculation. Astrology can’t tell you whether he’s into you or not.. whether you’re physically his type or not.. whether he’s not that much into girls, after all.. or maybe his ex-lover/girlfriend suddenly showed up.. or maybe his best friend is into you.. or maybe your ex spread some rumor ... could be anything!

Next time you meet, just say.. “what are you doing after church/tonight/this weekend? Wanna hang out?”
(Be confident, genuine and interested.)
If he declines and doesn’t make another offer, you have two options..

Either you let it go, or you say.. “Oh too bad. I had a great time. I like you.” And then just leave, with a genuine smile! If you’re really a catch, he won’t let you go, after that. Not with a Venus in a fire sign!!
If he remains without interest, at least you’ll leave a bold impression! You’ll definitely stay on his radar! Trust me.

posted March 19, 2019 01:47 AM            

We went on another random spontaneous outing last night. Seems to happen so randomly with us! I just get into bed and he’s like I’m going to this bar (around corner from my place) come! So I went at like 11:30pm and we have such an amazing time. Laughing so much at everything lol. He told me in his last relationship that he did EVERYTHUNG for her. Made her coffee and breakfast every morning. She never once appreciated him. On his bday she made it about HER and all she was interested in was getting perfect photos of herself for ig. So they broke up after that. Last straw. Not sure if this info helps with him possibly being a Pisces asc too? Also he said his mind is always thinking.

posted March 19, 2019 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
He told me in his last relationship that he did EVERYTHUNG for her. Made her coffee and breakfast every morning. She never once appreciated him. On his bday she made it about HER and all she was interested in was getting perfect photos of herself for ig. So they broke up after that. Last straw. Not sure if this info helps with him possibly being a Pisces asc too? Also he said his mind is always thinking.

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He is a double Scorpio and they can be VERY devoted. His ex doesn't seem to have been worth the time though

posted April 01, 2019 03:47 PM            

We went out last weekend a few times. AMAZING time. Definite heart to heart connection (moons conjunct).
He was so interested in what I had to say, very chivalrous, inviting me to be a part of his world, to be involved with the Christian community, asked about my Love Languages. I mean, we had the best time. He kept saying how amazing I am. We hugged for the longest time. No kiss but then we know where that leads and yes trying to be a good Christian boy.
And then POOF! Off he disappears again. watches my stories but hasn’t contacted me.
He has Venus conjunct Saturn so I’m confused. Is there anything in his chart indicating Avoidant Attachment style perhaps??
P.S I’m sticking with the Pisces rising chart.

posted April 01, 2019 04:04 PM            

Transiting Uranus is also exactly opposite his Mercury right now so his mind is probably all over the place at the moment.

He's also a Sagittarius in Venus (yes, conjunct Saturn) but they love to keep their playing field open, love to charm and be charmed. Venus/Saturn also has high standards so he could be biding his time until he really gets more of a mental grasp over you.

He's also experiencing a Jupiter transit over his Venus/Saturn/Uranus which probably reiterates the fact this may not be the best time to lock him down at the moment.

Saturn/Pluto (transit) is forming a t-square with his Mars-Jupiter opposition.. I say leave him be for now. That seems like it would be quite a stressor

posted April 01, 2019 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Mars in Libra guys usually like to be courted/have someone else make the first move because they'll overanalyze things to death if things are left to them. He also have Jupiter opposite Mars so I'd imagine he likes to keep his options open before really making a decision re: commitment.

Transiting Uranus is also exactly opposite his Mercury right now so his mind is probably all over the place at the moment.

He's also a Sagittarius in Venus (yes, conjunct Saturn) but they love to keep their playing field open, love to charm and be charmed. Venus/Saturn also has high standards so he could be biding his time until he really gets more of a mental grasp over you.

He's also experiencing a Jupiter transit over his Venus/Saturn/Uranus which probably reiterates the fact this may not be the best time to lock him down at the moment.

Saturn/Pluto (transit) is forming a t-square with his Mars-Jupiter opposition.. I say leave him be for now. That seems like it would be quite a stressor

You guys do have a Uranus square Sun aspect in your composite... I think this is just how the dynamic between you both is always going to be on some level. Transit Saturn is square the composite Saturn so it doesn't seem like the relationship will take off while transit Saturn is still in Capricorn

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thanks athenaia!

Appreciate you replying! Yeah i knew it was going to be a slow process anyway. That all makes sense. The comp sun square saturn denotes us being from different cultures/countries but yeah it does produce an on/off in lots of cases. Although i have married friends with this aspect.
I do know that he;s looking for a stable commitment.

But yeah those transits make a lot of sense.

tUranus opposing his mercury is DEF messing with his mind. I can see it because he has a lot of brain farts haha. Like he's so in his head and things end up coming out all weird lol. it's like come down to earth boy! he does appreciate me grounding him and reminding him to slow down.

So, do you think that natally the on/off energy relates to transits more than anything now? Because now that I think about it, I heard that his ex complained about him being so in and out with her and it really frustrated her. While HE complained that she ws co-dependent!

posted April 02, 2019 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
I heard that his ex complained about him being so in and out with her and it really frustrated her.

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Based on your updates and this that you said, it seems that this is his usual r/s pattern? I'm then thinking maybe he has Uranus on the Asc/Dsc which gives someone a great need for independence and an erratic nature.

Also Sag Venus usually wants a lot of freedom + he has Venus-Saturn...they usually need a longer observation time and won't be so quick to commit.

I looked at your composite again... the Uranian/Neptune squares still don't look good to me, especially now that you've described the on/off way he engaged with you. Neptune will add a lot of confusion... and you also have Chiron squares...

posted April 02, 2019 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Based on your updates and this that you said, it seems that this is his usual r/s pattern? I'm then thinking maybe he has Uranus on the Asc/Dsc which gives someone a great need for independence and an erratic nature.

Also Sag Venus usually wants a lot of freedom + he has Venus-Saturn...they usually need a longer observation time and won't be so quick to commit.

I looked at your composite again... the Uranian/Neptune squares still don't look good to me, especially now that you've described the on/off way he engaged with you. Neptune will add a lot of confusion... and you also have Chiron squares...

If you really still wanna give this a shot, don't overanalyse his behaviour and just accept the nature of your r/s.

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Thanks Hiraku. Uranus on asc? Hmmmm I’ll see where that puts his sun because it made A LOT of sense in his 9th house considering his religious devotion.
Also Chiron in his 4th and abusive father.
Neptune squares, yeah I’ve had those and hey no relationship is perfect. We have lots of other good stuff going on so I’m not going to let them squares put me off this one. I think he’s just a slow starter and very considerate before he jumps into anything.
I saw him last night and he was such a gentleman again.

posted April 03, 2019 12:39 AM            

But I’m wondering hmmmm. This would mean my planets fall into his 7/8/9 houses. I think.
So, we both have Uranus on our asc in that case. Interesting.

He has repeatedly said he NEEDS his alone time. He doesn’t like housemates.
So I asked him on our second date about men and when they go into their caves. He said for him it’s as if something comes over him that he can’t control. It’s like a switch that flicks and he then MUST retreat. Does this sound like asc/Uranus ?
Also he’s a VERY hard worker. Always busy busy busy.