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ana_bee
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posted March 06, 2019 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I’m inside
things you can’t see:
We have a sun/moon midpoint conj NN double whammy
His Juno conj my anti-Vertex

We met on a full moon, I really like him. The chemistry was amazing from the start. He’s great in bed and a nice person. He also has no problem with me being mommy to a newborn. He knows my story.
Maybe some of you could tell me what this might be all about? I don’t want to get my hopes up too soon, and get burned again. Please be honest.

Thank you!! I appreciate.

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posted March 07, 2019 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 07, 2019 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is his TOB accurate?

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posted March 07, 2019 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!

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posted March 07, 2019 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol ok I figured

I can see why you said chemistry, you have your DSC ruler Venus conjunct his ASC ruler Venus and also your ASC ruler Mars conjunct his DSC. His Venus conjunct your 7th ruler Venus, plus your Venus and Mars conjunct his DSC angle and his Venus etc. These are potent aspects and connections.
The mutual 5th house overlays as well tell me you two like each other. His Venus in your 5th and moon in your 8th also are attraction factors.
Looks like a great fling but I don’t see this really lasting. Your moons are very incompatible. He has cancer moon and you’re a Gemini moon which don’t understand each other very well. He is a lot more sensitive than you especially with his Pisces sun too.

Few key factors missing. Mainly his moon not being aspected properly and his emotionalism will really bother you after awhile with your Gemini moon and that Venus mars conjunction in Aries. He will probably end up finding you insensitive, Aries energy is very domineering/abrasive and the Gemini moon can seem shallow and fickle to his moon. He will feel like you don’t understand him. And you want a strong masculine guy, he’s not that way at all with his very feminine/yin nature. Sun in Pisces, moon in cancer and libra rising. Neptune/moon and Venus are the most feminine planets/energies lol.
Your DSC ruler being in Aries in the 5th conjunct mars as well just amplifies the fact you’re looking for a really dominant/masculine and confident guy. He may SEEM that way right now, but trust he’s not like that at all once you get to know him. I think you’ll be turned off by him after awhile tbh.


The composite again shows this as a fling. The tight sun/mercury square Uranus and moon opposite Uranus t-square, no Saturn to offset this and not a strong chart overall confirms this. You can usually tell from the synastry since the composite is an entension of the synasty, when I said a few factors missing I figured it would show in the comp too, it always does lol.
Sorry I don’t have better news but I think you should just enjoy it and have fun and not take it so seriously. You just got out of that toxic situation with the other guy right? So I think this is just what you need

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posted March 07, 2019 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There use to be 13 signs,
so the whole wheel is off!

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posted March 07, 2019 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lunalscariot
Thank you so much for your input! I can totally see what you mean! I need a masculine man (not necessarily talking about a Hulk-like creature) but someone who owns this energy and is confident.
I was hoping his Aries Venus and Mars in Sagittarius would make up for all that water! As you figured correctly, right now I do perceive him as a very manly man.. I also sense that he has a sensitive soul, and really like that side in him, too! But it might play out like you described.. makes sense!
But as you also noticed correctly.. after my last relationship..this guy is heaven sent!! Someone I was hoping for!! 🙏

I don’t know why I attract cancer ruled men btw..
My ex also has Moon in Cancer and Asc in Cancer, my boyfriend before him had Sun and Venus in Cancer, the guy before that again had Moon in Cancer, and the guy before that had a Cancer Asc.. wWhy do I feel attracted to this energy? I can’t see it in my chart..

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posted March 07, 2019 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ballerina:
There use to be 13 signs,
so the whole wheel is off!


What?

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posted March 07, 2019 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it's true, you
can google it

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posted March 07, 2019 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ana,

Right away I love that his Sun/Mercury is on your Psyche/Eros. It shows that his masculine principal and the way he expresses his ideas pings something deep within you, telling you that there is something about him that fulfills so many unconscious desires you have in a spouse/boyfriend.

I also like his Venus near your Mars/Venus conjunction, you guys have a lot of similar aesthetic decisions, tastes in movies/music, in some ways you're also maybe the more "masculine" partner in this relationship whereas he takes on a more relaxed, feminine role. I think this is also emphasized with your Moon in Gemini versus his sweeter, more docile Moon in Cancer.

His Vertex on your DSC is a pretty big deal, especially with his North Node hovering near by. I was the Node and my first boyfriend with the DSC - definitely some sense of destiny in both of you coming together.

Love his Moon trine your Sun. Very natural relations between you both. Your Moons are semi-sextile, so for sure an easy going best friend energy here.

His Mars opposite your Moon, he'll be opinionated! That's for sure. This also shows a carnal attraction to your and your femininity - all the better that you're a mother and he's a Cancer moon, inherently drawn to maternal qualities in women

Wow your Juno on his ASC is lovely. Without trying you're wife material for him. This also translates into the Juno/SN/Pluto conjunction in the first house of your composite.

Makes me wonder what will happen when transiting Uranus is conjunct your North Node since it's so close already. Maybe a surprise engagement or something.

Mars/Jupiter/Eros in the 4th house of the composite.. if you ever have anymore kids, it 's pretty likely it'll be with this guy if things get to that point.

Overall I think it's cute! Two Pisces together Keep us updated

BTW the reason you attract Cancer men is because your Sun (our identities, yes, but in women also the sort of energy we find attractive in our ideal mate) is in the 4th house, so it makes sense you would adore a man who prioritizes domesticity and who has a good relationship with their mom/other women

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posted March 07, 2019 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s probably because masculine energy (you) attracts feminine energy (cancer) and vice versa. But you should check midpoints, you might have something important in cancer lol.
Or maybe check your draconic chart
But you have moon in your 8th house. So that gives your 8th house a cancer energy and the 8th house is sexual/magnetic attraction etc.

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posted March 08, 2019 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
I don’t know why I attract cancer ruled men btw..
My ex also has Moon in Cancer and Asc in Cancer, my boyfriend before him had Sun and Venus in Cancer, the guy before that again had Moon in Cancer, and the guy before that had a Cancer Asc.. wWhy do I feel attracted to this energy? I can’t see it in my chart..

Check your Draco. I also attract people with Cancer placements although I don't have 4th house planets and my only Cancer planet is Saturn. But in Draco I've Cancer Mars in 10th house.

Btw how does Comp Sun square Moon feel? I read that it shows attraction but also conflict.

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posted March 08, 2019 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed in my Draconic chart I have a Cancer MC , though no planets in Cancer.

But I see the connection Athenaia made, with my Sun in 4th house! Didn’t think that house overlays would almost function as sign placements. But it does make sense.. I also feel attracted to Virgos (unfortunately) and that is probably due to my Venus/Mars in 6th house!

I don’t know how this aspect feels. Me and him basically just met a while ago and this aspect is very wide in our composite! But i also heard that it creates a lot of friction. Which can be good or bad.

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posted March 08, 2019 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@athenaia

Hi girl, thank you for this interpretation! I will let you know, if I’ll soon be on my honeymoon or knocked up again, or maybe both
You gave me some laughs!!
We’ll see .. although I think it’ll probably turn out to be a very hot fling, i’m afraid.
Composite Uranus squaring sun in connection to the moon doesn’t look too good (as lunalscariot pointed out)
This pattern repeats itself in the Davison!
And ... currently we both get hit by a transit Saturn square Venus until the end of the year!!
This square also shows up as a transit to our Composite chart! I wouldn’t know how we’d survive that thing.

Really too bad.. I never had a synastry that looked so promising (romance wise) .. the Venus/Mars connection, Juno, Vertex, and all those favorable house overlays, that you pointed out!!

I’ll keep you updated! Thanks again!

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posted March 08, 2019 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Luna is always pretty on point, I posted what I thought was a gorgeous synastry/composite here last summer when I was on a break with my current bf and she predicted how that would unfold with a spooky accuracy I must say

As an addendum, I'm an early degree Venus in Aries and when Saturn squared my Venus, I didn't experience a breakup more than I experienced a sobering of my stylistic impulses. I'm usually a very casual/athletic dresser and for the first time in my life I find myself extremely obsessed with buying professional, tailored clothes! So sometimes Venus transits aren't always about love Just wanted to put that out there

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posted March 08, 2019 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to know that it’s not always about love!
Actually when I think about it .. Lately I’ve been rewatching some episodes of Suits and am style-stalking Meghan Markle! And I’m usually more into jeans-tshirts-boots when going out.. but now i’ve been thinking about buying some pencil skirts.. a prince to match that skirt, wouldn’t be too bad either! 🤷‍♀️

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posted March 13, 2019 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other take on this one?
Maybe Todd?? You’re always seeing parallels and other things I usually miss

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posted March 14, 2019 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
I don’t know how this aspect feels. Me and him basically just met a while ago and this aspect is very wide in our composite! But i also heard that it creates a lot of friction. Which can be good or bad.

It's better for the Sun-Moon to be aspecting each other than not because at least it shows attraction. The bad thing is the square shows 2 ppl with different values who often find themselves not in tandem. Since you only just met him, it may not show yet.

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posted March 14, 2019 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In our chart th orb is really wide (10 degree)
I don’t know if that counts in composite. Other than that I agree with you! It probably takes some time for it to show its effect.

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posted March 23, 2019 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Luna

You made such a great interpretation, so i’m asking you again to give me some advice..

Do you see in our chart that I’m eventually coming on too strong? I’m really confused lately!
It all went really well between us. He told me, that he enjoys spending time with me, that he hasn’t had a connection like that for a very long time.. he even told me that he had a dream we were a couple..
I didn’t really comment his last statement, because I’m not sure how to think about it. It’s way too soon to make that step, I’m also not sure if I want to date him honestly.. I’m not ready for a relationship. But I really like him and would be quite sad, if this dissolved into nothing.

Anyway he canceled our date, didn’t make further plans and stopped writing me at the same frequency he used to. I’m not sure if it’s related to his dream statement or if it’s something else. I see that he’s online, though he hasn’t read my text. He’s been doing this for the past 3 days.. of course I’m holding out, too by now. Meaning if he hasn’t answered my last message yet, I don’t text him another one. Of course it still bothers me, because I don’t know why he’s suddenly acting this way! It also bothers me because this ‘chain reaction’ kills the natural flow we had at the beginning.

I’m really confused here. I wanted something fun and now it’s getting complicated again! I hate mind games. I hate it when a man expects me to play coy or hard to get. I really suck at this tbh.
I also assumed this wasn’t necessary.. that he’s into assertive women.. with Venus in Aries and Mars in a fire sign. In bed I totally let him take control! With coming on too strong .. I mean that I’m really into him, and I let him know! Last time we had sex three times in a row and I wanted more, and he asked if I was a nympho! This wasn’t a joke , btw! I laughed it off, but felt uncomfortable for him to make such a statement at all! I just enjoy sex, that’s all. Nothing pathological about it. It really irritated me. That day he was quite confrontational in general! Saying stuff in a joking way, which was rather rude, if I think about it now. I stayed calm, I didn’t react to that.. I just asked what he was up for.. he said, he wants to see what I look like, when I’m mad!
This is so stupid and immature, if I think about it now! Is this his own insecurity? Or is he losing interest?

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posted March 23, 2019 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha “I want to see what you’re like when you’re mad” that’s his Aries DSC and his Venus in Aries talking.
People have to remember, people act out their DSC situation with the sexual partner (not friends or family).

Remember I told you his moon was rather alienated? Sure it’s trine your sun/asc and widely your mercury but that’s not enough because in reality you’re not acting out watery or emotional energy when you look at your whole chart. You’re EXTREMELY emotionally detached (moon in Gemini exact square mercury and tightly opposite Uranus), you think your emotions before feeling them, and rationalize most if not all of them away) this is strongly shown by Aquarius on your IC and you even have mercury in there again! All detached, intellectual, rationalized energy). Sure your moon is in the 8th, but the Scorpio influence here is just making your feelings more hidden and repressed since your moon by sign and aspects doesn’t feel comfortable feeling. When you start to feel, your first instinct is to rationalize, think it instead of feel (Gemini, square mercury, opp Uranus), or bury/repress (8th house). Like the 8th isn’t making your emotions deeper and more intense like one would assume, it’s just making whatever is happening by sign and aspects (which is your detachment) more intense (8th house).
His DSC and Venus is happy, but that just rules attraction, meaning wanting to have sex. When people talk about Venus being love it’s a bit misleading, because love is about feelings (moon/4th house), not attraction and liking/appreciation like Venus and the DSC. The Moon is feelings of comfort, safety, feeling that emotional connection and bond/attachment.
If you know about the science of love; we have dopamine (feelings of pleasure, excitement) which would be the 5th house, 7th house stuff, but then we go into oxytocin (the love hormone), this is the chemical that binds us and gives that warm fuzzy gooey connected feeling, and has nothing to do with attraction etc. Our mothers (4th house/moon) feels this towards us, gets flooded with it during birth. It’s why you instantly love your baby
So basically, what I’m saying is he probably doesn’t feel an emotional connection towards you, there was no oxytocin being pumped which is what sustains/keeps a connection going long term and causes attachment/bonding. Without this, he’s likely to lose interest since it’s easy to lose interest when your feelings aren’t involved. His Venus in Aries is also easily bored.
Also his 4th ruler Saturn isn’t making any nice aspects eithe to substitute his moon, it’s actually rather uncomfortable. It’s squaring your sun (this is why you felt criticized/judged by him and his comments!), and opposite your moon in a t-square. Not a pleasant combo of energies, especially for you.
Also it’s widely opposed your mercury too....but sign Saturn is his 4th ruler, and making these hard aspects again it’s that emotional disconnect.

And lastly, Uranus in the composite shows this was only going to a short- term fling, that would end suddenly and unexpected in true uranus fashion lol

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posted March 23, 2019 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg you’re soo good!! Last time I said this, was in a different setting LoL
But anyways ..yes your interpretation is spot on!! I do rationalize a lot! Thinking before actually feeling is a big theme.. Growing up, this really bothered me a lot. The older I get, the more I develop my feeling nature.. but it’s still a source of confusion quite often.

Back to him.. I understand the concept of all those magic hormones flowing through our system. Thanks for that explanation Venus vs Moon! I haven’t read this anywhere else this clear.. I also didn’t know that we act out our Dsc with our significant other. I thought we project what’s there.. but when there’s no ground to project we probably provoke that reaction.. like him trying to make me angry! That makes sense.

I’m familiar with Cancer energy, though.. every significant relationship or hook up so far, had Cancer quite prominently in their chart! So I do think that I somehow attract them and am able to respond to their emotional nature .. I know how to be nurturing and homey, I love to cook, I love being gentle and take care of my s.o.. though you can’t see that in my chart. This isn’t something that came naturally, more something I developed over time. But I enjoy being that way, too. Though I guess that one’s true nature always shows, sooner or later. And my true nature is indeed more detached..

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I’m still wondering though how my Sun and Asc exactly (0 degree!) trine his Moon, and Mercury and Pluto trine that Moon, and my Psyche conj his Moon (1 degree) wouldn’t be enough to make him feel comfortable around me.. it even falls in a water house (8th)!! Also his Moon is in 9th house .. wouldn’t that give it a Sagittarius flavor.. so conncting a bit more with my Gemini Moon?

Thanks Luna!
(I might write again, when something new comes up.. )

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posted March 23, 2019 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 23, 2019 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes we project our 7th, and it’s the qualities we are attracted to and what we’re looking for, but it’s also how we act in relationships.
Like someone with Uranus in their 7th wants someone unique, smart, interesting and quirky or different, but they themselves are also very independent and can be hot and cold or erratic in their relationships.
Someone with Pluto conjunct their DSC is going to be very jealous towards their partners etc.

And I think a big reason you attract cancer energy is because they bring out your emotional side. And maybe you make them a bit more rational and logical and offer that perspective, so it’s a nice balance. We tend to be attracted to our opposites.

I’m really curious if maybe your tob is off though. I’m almost positive it is lol. The time written on our birth certificates are usually off by a few minutes give or take. So that’s why you have to play around with it a bit to see what truly fits and resonates with you.
You might be a later degree DSC Scorpio rising and this would put your moon in your 7th house instead, and this would explain the attraction or cancer (moon) people. Whenever a certain sign is a theme for people you’re with, which it sounds like it is, it’s for a reason always it’s no accident. It’s either the sign on your DSC or 5th, or the rulers are in these signs or the houses that match that sign or conjunct the ruling planet, or that planets energy is there like moon in your 7th.

This would make saturn conjunct your asc as well which would match the Capricorn DSC energy your baby’s father had


Read about moon in the 7th house, and read up on moon in the 8th vs moon in the 7th and see what fits better with you. I bet you you’ll relate way more to moon in the 7th!

Moon in the 7th house would also make you very nurturing and caring and more emotional when you’re in romantic relationships or with your sexual partners, and would bring out your emotional side. This is the area of life you’re most emotional in; relationships. This also would make you very attracted to sensitive, caring, nurturing men who are good with kids and in touch with their feminine side and who are considerate and family orientated. You saying you like to “take care” of your partners is a perfect manifestation of moon in the 7th lol.

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posted March 24, 2019 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My birth time is indeed not exactly known .. unfortunately. The only thing my mother could remember was, that I was born shortly after midnight.
Whether it’s 12:10 or 12:30 a.m she didn’t know. So I had to play around with that over the years .. with transits and synastry aspects to see what fit best.
Ultimately I came to believe that 12:22 a.m made the most sense. (plus/minus couple minutes)

You’re right having Moon in 7th house resonates with me as well!! 👍 But that would put my Venus/Mars/Lilith conjunction in my 5th house.. and that doesn’t fit as well as having it in 6th house! Firstly I always tend to attract Virgos (same as Cancer) .. it’s usually a Virgo/Cancer combination like with my ex and baby daddy.. he has Sun and Mars in Virgo and Moon and Asc in Cancer!

I also tend to meet my partners at work!! Like always.. beside that recent thing. I also work in a creative field. So having Venus in 6th house makes sense.

A good indicator is also that with 12:22 a.m my IC conj my Ex’s NN in Aqua. This fits to a T considering that we met through work (I had a higher position than him.. my MC on his SN) and now we’re ‘family’ in a non-traditional way.

Also with 12:22 a.m my daughter’s Moon falls in my 5th house!

What also makes me believe that moon in 8th house tends to fit, is that my sexual drive and my emotions correlate. I feel nurtured during sex. I’m able to make a deep and loving connection with someone, even when it’s someone casual. Even during a ONS I fall in love a little and tend to care for that person.

Funny thing is.. I once consulted a professional astrologer, and she told me that I could find success as a sex worker! Haha
It’s legal in my country! And I actually like the phantasy aspect of it. I could pull off the ‘girlfriend experience’ with a stranger, I also wouldn’t mind being paid for sex..
The only reason I wouldn’t do it, is the social stigma, the danger to be taken advantage off, and frankly I’m not interested in sleeping with unattractive men.
Porn wouldn’t be an option either.. because I’m a private person and what is shown in porn nowadays, is too degrading and extreme for my taste. I can watch it to get turned on, but I wouldn’t want to actually do it. Not in this lifetime at least. LoL

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