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SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 23, 2019 12:22 AM
I have posted this chart before with no luck. I hope someone can give me some insight on this Synastry chart. We work together and on really well. Yes it is placidus house system. Im red. Any insight greatly appreciated
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Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 131 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted March 23, 2019 08:58 PM
I think it's romantic, intense, with good chemistry, you might see each others like your ideal partner or someone on the same page as you. Maybe your meeting changed your lives, somehow. It doesn't look too stable though, on the emotional side, not sure about long term. Do you work together or share some important business or activity? The Composite Venus trine Mars square Comp. Saturn and Pluto in 7th , and Saturn opposite Moon/square Venus look a little heavy to me. It suggests a burden, or some kind of restriction. IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 3207 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted March 23, 2019 09:56 PM
Moon in the 1st house composite is one of the very best placements shows a lot of comfort, trust and caring between you. You probably opened up and felt comfortable right away and can easily express and share your feelings with each other. Jupiter in the 3rd is another lovely placement, this is one of the best indicators for mental connection and really good communication and lots of laughs! The mystic rectangles is also a nice pattern showing stability and a dynamic connection. I don’t Iike the Venus, moon, Pluto, Saturn t-square though. That seems a bit intense, restrictive and could be controlling. You may feel this way more than him as well. Not as open as him? Maybe you hold back and are more reseved or careful. You could feel obsessive towards him as well, maybe you think about him a lot. The mars on the DSC usually shows a competitiveness, or you could goad or tease each other but this turns into irritation after awhile. Usually shows a sexual attraction though. But the synastry does show more of a friendly/platonic connection, and so does the composite. So idk how productive this mars conjunct the DSC will be without the sexual outlet lol. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 131 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted March 23, 2019 10:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by LunaIscariot: Moon in the 1st house composite is one of the very best placements shows a lot of comfort, trust and caring between you. You probably opened up and felt comfortable right away and can easily express and share your feelings with each other. Jupiter in the 3rd is another lovely placement, this is one of the best indicators for mental connection and really good communication and lots of laughs! The mystic rectangles is also a nice pattern showing stability and a dynamic connection. I don’t Iike the Venus, moon, Pluto, Saturn t-square though. That seems a bit intense, restrictive and could be controlling. You may feel this way more than him as well. Not as open as him? Maybe you hold back and are more reseved or careful. You could feel obsessive towards him as well, maybe you think about him a lot. The mars on the DSC usually shows a competitiveness, or you could goad or tease each other but this turns into irritation after awhile. Usually shows a sexual attraction though. But the synastry does show more of a friendly/platonic connection, and so does the composite. So idk how productive this mars conjunct the DSC will be without the sexual outlet lol.
I agree with you, and I also had the feeling of a platonic relationship, didn't dare to mention friendship since I haven't seen any relevant 11th house, but I see a strong harmony in some shared activity. Maybe here there's a line that can't be crossed on the emotional level ? That's my first feeling... IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 24, 2019 01:29 PM
Thank you both Stoika7 and Lunalscariot. You are both bang on right. We are work colleges we get on really well. Great banter, very dry sarcastic humor. We havent worked together that long. And in the line of work we do teamwork is everything. We are both surprised that we work so well together considering we are quite alike, both being bossy capricorns.It is a platonic relationship. There isn't attraction there, at least not on my part. I am quite reserved and careful. At work it takes me a while to figure people out. But from the start it was like we had known and worked together for ages. Just a feeling of a good connection and really good communication from the start. So definitely strong harmony there. I found that quite fascinating as it not something I experience often and wondered if it showed in the synastry chart. It will be interesting indeed to see how mars conjunct the DSC will play out. Im sure if we did clash it would be something as we are both very stubborn and strong personalities. Thank you both for having a look at the charts greatly appreciated IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 131 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted March 24, 2019 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by SeaGoat: Thank you both Stoika7 and Lunalscariot. You are both bang on right. We are work colleges we get on really well. Great banter, very dry sarcastic humor. We havent worked together that long. And in the line of work we do teamwork is everything. We are both surprised that we work so well together considering we are quite alike, both being bossy capricorns.It is a platonic relationship. There isn't attraction there, at least not on my part. I am quite reserved and careful. At work it takes me a while to figure people out. But from the start it was like we had known and worked together for ages. Just a feeling of a good connection and really good communication from the start. So definitely strong harmony there. I found that quite fascinating as it not something I experience often and wondered if it showed in the synastry chart. It will be interesting indeed to see how mars conjunct the DSC will play out. Im sure if we did clash it would be something as we are both very stubborn and strong personalities. Thank you both for having a look at the charts greatly appreciated
You're welcome! I would say that Comp. Mars conjunct DSC in 6th house points to "harmony in action", so it fits the case, I think. And yes, depending on the circumstance, it might take you to a clash, but in the whole picture only as a temporary situation... Probably in your case the Mars role is not "sexual attraction" but "active interaction", and the idealization of the whole picture points to the armony you share at work, as an ideal team :-)
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted March 27, 2019 09:48 AM
Who is who in the synastry please? Edit: Apologies, I see now that you are the red.I've never seen this before. Are you in a particular part of the world to create such small houses? I am curious about who is who because the smaller the houses, the lower the odds are of other peoples planets hitting in them. So, when it does happen, I am thinking it would feel a quite significant association.
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SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 27, 2019 11:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Who is who in the synastry please? Edit: Apologies, I see now that you are the red.I've never seen this before. Are you in a particular part of the world to create such small houses? I am curious about who is who because the smaller the houses, the lower the odds are of other peoples planets hitting in them. So, when it does happen, I am thinking it would feel a quite significant association.
If you are born in places of latitudes over 66°34N, like north of the Arctic Circle. You will get small intercepted houses if you use the Placidus house system. Depending on what time of year you were born. I'm not sure how it differs or how significant its is, but people that make aspects to my Asd/dsc intrigue me, But I guess that is the same for most, And I do have my sun and moon close to both. IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 2250 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 27, 2019 02:34 PM
hi SeaGoatas has already been mentioned they mystic rectangle is very favorable especially for the business relationship you have describe.mercury oppode to Jupiter is indicative of your minds interesting both specific nd genral concepts. the sextile/trine to pluto gives depth and profundity to your mental connection. this often shoew the workplace is ina corporste or eduation instuition,especially with jupter,. then the trine/sextile to the moon, hsrrmonizies your mids and moods/emotionals. this is a very constructive and deductive relationship. I agree as mentioned the t square of Pluto/moon/Saturn could be problematic and is probably why the relationship is strictly platonic as this implies a hesitancy to hare intimate feelings. Though with the moon/Saturn midpoint conjunct to venus, in time, I think you will both grow into trusting each other and begin to share more intimate feeling but as to no attraction I think this is mistaken. som4ebody here is quite enchanted/enchanting. the mars/venus midpoint is conjunct the south node. this shows a very strong sexual/emotional attraction and then with Uranus also conjunct to the south node, this relationship immediately was functioning and enjoyable. I think this is part of why there was immediately rapport Uranus with he node also ads a psychic, astral connection, so in addition to your conscious mental similarities, your both are picking up/reading each other minds ,showing you both anticipate what the other is thinking. the mars/pluto midpoint is at 24 arie32. the transiting node was conjunct this point on march 20 . this could imply that they might have be a little "moodiness" or uncharacteristic distance between you. Though with the venus/sun midpoint at 22cap21, this could think this "distance is passing and in fact the relationship is moving back to a very warm and emotional phase. actually it is possible that there may be innuendo of personal affection between you. though this might be kept in check by the professional nature of the relationship . the south node transits this midpoint about April 19th so I think the near future will betraying a hitherto concealed affection. todd
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SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 27, 2019 03:46 PM
Hi Todd Thank you for having a look at my chart. quote: Originally posted by todd: as has already been mentioned they mystic rectangle is very favorable especially for the business relationship you have describe.mercury oppode to Jupiter is indicative of your minds interesting both specific nd genral concepts. the sextile/trine to pluto gives depth and profundity to your mental connection. this often shoew the workplace is ina corporste or eduation instuition,especially with jupter,. then the trine/sextile to the moon, hsrrmonizies your mids and moods/emotionals. this is a very constructive and deductive relationship. todd
It does indeed feel like that, a constructive and deductive relationship. quote: Originally posted by todd:
but as to no attraction I think this is mistaken. som4ebody here is quite enchanted/enchanting. the mars/venus midpoint is conjunct the south node. this shows a very strong sexual/emotional attraction and then with Uranus also conjunct to the south node, this relationship immediately was functioning and enjoyable. I think this is part of why there was immediately rapport Uranus with he node also ads a psychic, astral connection, so in addition to your conscious mental similarities, your both are picking up/reading each other minds ,showing you both anticipate what the other is thinking.
That is very interesting. Seeing as the relationship and interaction has been based around work it can be that I choose to only see it in that capacity. As that is what I am comfortable with at the moment. Perhaps that the Pluto/Moon/ Saturn effect. quote: Originally posted by todd: the mars/pluto midpoint is at 24 arie32. the transiting node was conjunct this point on march 20 . this could imply that they might have be a little "moodiness" or uncharacteristic distance between you. Though with the venus/sun midpoint at 22cap21, this could think this "distance is passing and in fact the relationship is moving back to a very warm and emotional phase. actually it is possible that there may be innuendo of personal affection between you. though this might be kept in check by the professional nature of the relationship . the south node transits this midpoint about April 19th so I think the near future will betraying a hitherto concealed affection.
Well I guess time will tell, perhaps Im more open to seeing this person in a different light now. Very interesting. Thank you again Todd, especially for including the transits.
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted March 27, 2019 07:01 PM
Thanks Seagoat for that confirmation. I thought it was so, but I'd just never seen it in real life.I say again that, given the size of those houses, especially the relationship zone there, his planets there will be felt strongly because of the low odds of someones planets falling there! You may be accustomed to Uranus/Saturn in your 7H with peers, however his Sun etc in your 8th really fills things out for you in that zone. Hopefully, that his Sun is the ruler of his 7H will inspire an equal feeling for him (if that is what you are seeking here). And that those planets are opposite your Moon is intense. I'm sure you would be aware of the challenging aspects present in the synastry, hey. It looks pretty challenging. This may be part of the intensity that is being felt. Or the strong awareness of each other. IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 27, 2019 07:34 PM
Hi Sassaqua quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: I say again that, given the size of those houses, especially the relationship zone there, his planets there will be felt strongly because of the low odds of someones planets falling there!
Yes I agree with you there. I find 7th and 8th house overlays to be strongly felt. And you are right, it is not that common for me. And a stellum hitting the 7th and 8th house is definitely felt. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: And that those planets are opposite your Moon is intense.
Yeah I thought that looked very " dramatic" in the chart. I'm not too comfortable with that to be honest. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Hopefully, that his Sun is the ruler of his 7H will inspire an equal feeling for him (if that is what you are seeking here).
His ASC is also in Aqua, his Uranus/Saturn in my 7H. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: I'm sure you would be aware of the challenging aspects present in the synastry, hey. It looks pretty challenging. This may be part of the intensity that is being felt. Or the strong awareness of each other.
I feel that I am often a bit blind to my own synastry charts and I would love to hear your take on the challenging aspectsIP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted March 29, 2019 01:09 AM
Hi Seagoat, yes, I understand - it doesn't have to be perfect just fresh eyes on it is good quote: His ASC is also in Aqua, his Uranus/Saturn in my 7H
Yep, and that the ruler of your Asc is conjunct his Desc is excellent.Both your 7H rulers take place in eachothers 7 & 8H - your descendant ruler in his 7H. And also that there is your whole stellium there. While not Venus or Moon (soft planets), they are still ok I think because they are mixed in together - so, not just Saturn but a nice range of elements to keep it interesting. Incidentally, your Jup is conjunct Mars like me, though mine is wider. And the trine between his IC and your intercepted IC rulers is good too. I think that these are the things that are putting him/each other on the radar. That your Venuses are in the same sign, that your Moons are in same element (just shy of trine), and ditto with your Marses (but sextile), creates a recognition and a rapport between you both. There are quite a few mirroring aspects between you both in the synastry. His Mars conjunct your Uranus provides excitement for you (and him too of course because it works both ways), however, understand that he will be familiar with this energy, with Uranus being generational: he will be accustomed to people finding him exciting. That puts the power more in his hands. However, this is nicely counter balanced with his Pluto square your Venus! And as we are talking Mars and Venus here, with the outer planets, it conjures up sexual tension in the mix. I'm glad to see it both ways. And it emphasises the tension that the house placements already mentioned above, and which is also nicely balanced. Putting all this together so far, it is understandable that you're on each others radar. Or his on yours at least. The challenging aspects in the whole of the synastry again, underscores these tensions and curiosities toward each other. And I think there is enough there to fascinate each other enough to draw you together. For how long though is a tricky question. As is what the quality of the relationship will be. The nice little talent triangle with his Pluto, your Jupiter etc and your Sun, is superb for a working relationship. It brings ego strength to you and power to both because MC is involved and his Pluto. Be careful that his Pluto does not suck your energy for his benefit though! He will benefit much, as it is his Pluto at the apex of that talent triangle, and your Jupiter will over give hoping for a fair exchange that Pluto may not reciprocate. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: I'm sure you would be aware of the challenging aspects present in the synastry, hey. It looks pretty challenging. This may be part of the intensity that is being felt. Or the strong awareness of each other.
Straight up: that his Venus is un-aspected is the greatest worrisome factor for this proceeding to romance. Yours isn't in great shape either. Along with the Saturn challenges too, and which creates a lot of fear in the interaction. For both equally, and these are the mirroring aspects I referred to earlier. In my assessment, the Saturn and Venus challenges may well be the items that are the main barriers to being able to access intimacy. His Venus does rule his 8H. Many relationships are brought and held together by fear, but the quality of the journey is troublesome and wearing. You are both Caps, so, you will be familiar with this Saturn energy, which, may be another binding element between you both (you have a rapport with each other's nature through the capacity you each have to cope with that Saturn energy), nevertheless, the journey could be draining and be something you are blind to and over time might be wearisome. This Venus and the Saturns, on a background of general challenging aspects - particularly those involving the Moon (with Chiron/Mars) - unfortunately could bring confusion, insecurity, hurt, and defenses. For this reason I would be taking it really slowly so as to build trust and greater grounding over time. And make sure he doesn't take more that he gives back. Especially if you work together. Keep us updated please IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 31, 2019 08:43 AM
Thank you Sassaqua, you have great insight. You given me a new perspective on the charts and a lot to look into. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Yep, and that the ruler of your Asc is conjunct his Desc is excellent. Both your 7H rulers take place in eachothers 7 & 8H - your descendant ruler in his 7H. And also that there is your whole stellium there. While not Venus or Moon (soft planets), they are still ok I think because they are mixed in together - so, not just Saturn but a nice range of elements to keep it interesting.
For this reason I feel like the attrection is stronger on my part. As you point out there are mirroring aspects in our charts but I see it affecting me stronger than him. And to add I feel his Pluto is making its presence felt in the chart. As you pointed out that his Pluto is the Apex of the trine involving my Jupiter and Sun. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Straight up: that his Venus is un-aspected is the greatest worrisome factor for this proceeding to romance. Yours isn't in great shape either. Along with the Saturn challenges too, and which creates a lot of fear in the interaction. For both equally, and these are the mirroring aspects I referred to earlier. In my assessment, the Saturn and Venus challenges may well be the items that are the main barriers to being able to access intimacy. His Venus does rule his 8H.
Un- aspected venus is worries me a bit. Saturn challenges are indeed something Im used to and comfortable with. But un-aspected Venus Im not too sure will pan out in the long run. But we do both have un-aspected Venus in our natal charts in Aquarius too boot. quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: His Mars conjunct your Uranus provides excitement for you (and him too of course because it works both ways), however, understand that he will be familiar with this energy, with Uranus being generational: he will be accustomed to people finding him exciting. That puts the power more in his hands. However, this is nicely counter balanced with his Pluto square your Venus! And as we are talking Mars and Venus here, with the outer planets, it conjures up sexual tension in the mix. I'm glad to see it both ways. And it emphasises the tension that the house placements already mentioned above, and which is also nicely balanced.
Im glad to see there is a some balance here. But his Pluto square my Venus and his Mars conjunct my Uranus might be a bit too intense for cancer and pisces Moons haha....and a scorpio Mars. Will take your advise to heart and move slowly and keep things equal. I will keep you posted. But being a capricorn I tend to more slow in regards to these things Thanks again for your insight, greatly appreciated IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted March 31, 2019 08:02 PM
You're welcome You both have natal unaspected Venus? You will recognise eachother maybe. IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 31, 2019 11:57 PM
As far as I can tell. Now mind I usually don't take into account minor aspects, unless they are tight orb. But if I do in our case, I have Mars inconjunct Venus. And he has Mars quintile Venus. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted April 01, 2019 05:54 PM
If you want to tell us a bit more about the interaction you can post the natals and we can take a look.IP: Logged |
SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted April 01, 2019 07:08 PM
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SeaGoat Knowflake Posts: 116 From: Here and there. Registered: Sep 2018
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posted April 03, 2019 12:01 AM
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