posted March 23, 2019 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
The wheel we created with
God Source had 13 signs..
Why lead your life by a
Man-made wheel of deception!?

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posted March 23, 2019 07:26 PM            

You don't need astrology,
is basically what I am
saying..
A11 the answers are within!

posted March 23, 2019 07:56 PM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
It's not unlucky at all..
Follow your heart,
Gut=Tug...

You don't need astrology,
is basically what I am
saying..
A11 the answers are within!

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I do follow my heart, but despite the fact that there's something special between this guy and me, he's in a relationship :-( and he lives far away. I just can't let him go, since long time, what I feel is too strong.
Of course I don't need astrology, i mean, it doesn't really change the situation... but I love astrology :-) so I'm just wondering about the astrological explanation or whether it suggests there can be a future chance :-)

posted March 23, 2019 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
I shall tell you to think
positive thoughts..go with
what you feel..tell him how
you feel..have faith in the
underlying Ggodness of the
Universe..if you feel it..
It is something to pursue...

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posted March 23, 2019 09:19 PM            

Each has his/\her own path. ...

posted March 25, 2019 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi all :-) I'd like to have opinions on this. My love for him is powerful, but it seems there are big obstacles and I don't know how he feels.

We have a love stellium (Sun, Venus, Mercury all conjunct in 11th) in the composite which trines composite Moon and Neptune.
In synastry, my Moon conjunct his Sun. His Moon (in my 8th) trine my Sun (in his 8th).
We also have a double whammy Pluto trine Sun (his Pluto in my 7th).
My Venus (in his 8th) trine his Moon.
His NN conjunct my Lilith and his Lilith (in my 8th) trine my NN (in his 8th).
His Chiron conjunct my Moon. Composite Mars conjunct Chiron in 12th.
Both synastry and composite form a Kite.

Besides other good aspects in synastry, Composite Saturn square the whole love stellium. Comp. Pluto opposite Sun, sextile Moon and opposite Mercury. Comp. Uranus opposite Mars and Moon. Comp. Jupiter opposite Sun and Venus + Jupiter square Saturn. Comp. NN conjunct Asc.

My question... Is there any chance it will ever work out? Is the love stellium too afflicted by Saturn and Jupiter? does this make it doomed despite the other powerful aspects? Is it impossible love? The comp. Mars/Chiron in 12th.... painful karmic lesson? :-(

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First qn - does he know how you feel and does he feel the same way about you?

I personally like the love stellium very much... it makes for a very loving connection. But it's meaningless if he doesn't feel the same way.

Saturn squares *yiaks* will change the flavour of the loving connection or even block it. Uranus opposite Moon makes for an emotional connection that switches on & off erratically.

posted March 25, 2019 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
First qn - does he know how you feel and does he feel the same way about you?

I personally like the love stellium very much... it makes for a very loving connection. But it's meaningless if he doesn't feel the same way.

Saturn squares *yiaks* will change the flavour of the loving connection or even block it. Uranus opposite Moon makes for an emotional connection that switches on & off erratically.

The composite doesn't doom... but the situation (him living far away AND involved in a relationship) sounds gloomy.

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posted March 25, 2019 04:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes it does :-( I couldn't openly show how I feel cause he's in a serious longtime relationship, but I have tried to get closer, somehow, at first, so I am sure he understood how I feel. He showed some interest but I can't say if it was attraction or he was just being nice and friendly. I felt a strong familiar feeling between us, but really can't say if he felt the same... As soon as I knew he was committed already, I didn't dare. He's a Taurus with Mars in Taurus and I know he's a very faithful one, so I have figured out he wouldn't show any attraction even if he felt so.
I agree with what you say about the Saturn block and Uranus opposite Moon, but I'm afraid that those squares together with the Jupiter ones would make it impossible :-( unless the NN conjunct ASC and the stellium can make a miracle :-)

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I'm experiencing a love stellium now so I understand that close, loving connection. It feels very different from my other relationships without the stellium despite having similar synastry connections. Our feelings are mutual and we don't have heavy Saturn/Uranus in composite but I still feel doom & gloom. Haha... Pluto squares our stellium.

Jupiter harsh aspects are still positive. It still shows happy connection & optimism although it also shows overindulgence.

posted March 25, 2019 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I'm experiencing a love stellium now so I understand that close, loving connection. It feels very different from my other relationships without the stellium despite having similar synastry connections. Our feelings are mutual and we don't have heavy Saturn/Uranus in composite but I still feel doom & gloom. Haha... Pluto squares our stellium.

Jupiter harsh aspects are still positive. It still shows happy connection & optimism although it also shows overindulgence.

It's sad if you're the only one feeling the connection though. Why do you wanna pursue if he doesn't reciprocate your feelings? You said he's involved in a serious relationship so he may not wanna pursue even if he feels a connection.

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Good question, LOL ! I can't explain this without saying it is overwhelming... I feel like this since three years, madly in love, and despite every real obstacle and me trying to move on, I couldn't forget him. He comes in my dreams even without thinking of him during the day. Also, we had some striking synchronicities, unbelievable ones, and a few amazing telepathic connections. I was blown away and never believed in such things in my life before. He keeps showing up or things reminding me of him keep showing up to me even when I'm not thinking of him at all. We have some Neptune/Uranus, Saturn/Uranus and Jupiter/Pluto conjunctions in our synastry, which are psychic, I think, and the double Pluto trine on Sun plus the eight house overlays is pretty much what is obsessing me about him... These circumstances, the way we interacted and our synastry tells me that he might even feel the same attraction or the same familiarity, but that given his personality and situation he would never express it in the open :-( In short, I feel it has big potential, but impossible to actually occur, at least at this moment. Mainly, he's exactly my ideal man, from many aspects, the one I never found in my almost 50 years of life and few longtime relatonships (sigh!) and me being an aquarius is hard to let go "ideal" stuff, eheheh
I'm trying hard to forget him, facing reality, but it hugely upsets me and I feel like I have missed "the one" and that I won't ever find anyone else like him, since I never did before.

posted March 25, 2019 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Good question, LOL ! I can't explain this without saying it is overwhelming... I feel like this since three years, madly in love, and despite every real obstacle and me trying to move on, I couldn't forget him. He comes in my dreams even without thinking of him during the day. Also, we had some striking synchronicities, unbelievable ones, and a few amazing telepathic connections. I was blown away and never believed in such things in my life before. He keeps showing up or things reminding me of him keep showing up to me even when I'm not thinking of him at all. We have some Neptune/Uranus, Saturn/Uranus and Jupiter/Pluto conjunctions in our synastry, which are psychic, I think, and the double Pluto trine on Sun plus the eight house overlays is pretty much what is obsessing me about him... These circumstances, the way we interacted and our synastry tells me that he might even feel the same attraction or the same familiarity, but that given his personality and situation he would never express it in the open :-( In short, I feel it has big potential, but impossible to actually occur, at least at this moment. Mainly, he's exactly my ideal man, from many aspects, the one I never found in my almost 50 years of life and few longtime relatonships (sigh!) and me being an aquarius is hard to let go "ideal" stuff, eheheh
I'm trying hard to forget him, facing reality, but it hugely upsets me and I feel like I have missed "the one" and that I won't ever find anyone else like him, since I never did before.

Your synastry sounds great to me, I don't understand why you feel doom and gloom then...? the Pluto squares on the stellium doesn't have to be negative, I think, it might add the powerful feeling, even though there's potential obsession and jelousy :-)

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I've never crushed on someone for so long (lol) so I can't say I understand this, but I wish you all the best. 😉 If you feel SO strongly about this why don't you just tell him, at least to get it off your chest and hopefully knows how HE feels? You've got nothing to lose anyway.

posted March 25, 2019 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've never crushed on someone for so long (lol) so I can't say I understand this, but I wish you all the best. 😉 If you feel SO strongly about this why don't you just tell him, at least to get it off your chest and hopefully knows how HE feels? You've got nothing to lose anyway.

I feel gloom because of other circumstances, but like in your situation, he also feels so right for me so I can understand this feeling. Pluto hard aspects feel powerfully intense and it builds up like a pressure cooker which explodes when we meet. The constant craving for sexual intimacy is also extremely strong.

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Thank you for your wishes and advice <3
Actually... I never had such huge longtime crush for someone either!! ...and, at my age, I find it pretty crazy :-D So I understand why you don't understand! Cause I don't understand it either, lol
But it has been so since the first time I met him, crazy love at first sight... and it never got weaker, it is almost scary to me, cause I can't control it.
Well, I guess I don't have the guts to just tell him cause I'm too scared of his reaction... he might just definitely ghost me, avoiding me and cutting me off, since I'm pretty sure he's not going to put his longtime relationship on jeopardy, at this time. And btw, I think, it wouldn't be a fair thing to do towards his girlfriend... so I'm just keeping up the faith that if it has to happen, if what I feel has a real reason, it must happen when the time is right. But at the same time I try not have expectations and false hopes...

posted March 26, 2019 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Thank you for your wishes and advice <3
Actually... I never had such huge longtime crush for someone either!! ...and, at my age, I find it pretty crazy :-D So I understand why you don't understand! Cause I don't understand it either, lol
But it has been so since the first time I met him, crazy love at first sight... and it never got weaker, it is almost scary to me, cause I can't control it.
Well, I guess I don't have the guts to just tell him cause I'm too scared of his reaction... he might just definitely ghost me, avoiding me and cutting me off, since I'm pretty sure he's not going to put his longtime relationship on jeopardy, at this time. And btw, I think, it wouldn't be a fair thing to do towards his girlfriend... so I'm just keeping up the faith that if it has to happen, if what I feel has a real reason, it must happen when the time is right. But at the same time I try not have expectations and false hopes...

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Sounds agonising! 😣 Well, if you ever choose to tell him you will have to mince your words of course, because like you said you don't wanna scare him off. But I believe that if you sincerely tell him how much you admire him but you understand that he's in a r/s so you ain't asking for anything, just wanna get this off your chest... he will feel flattered. Men, whether they're single or attached, still like attention from women.

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yeah I know how Pluto feels! Do you have it in strong aspects also in synastry? This also would give the constant craving for intimacy, but also a Chiron/Moon aspect might act in the same way. What is the Composite stellium house?

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How about I post our charts so you can have a look, if it's not too much trouble? I read your interpretations in other threads and really like the fresh take you have.

posted March 26, 2019 02:34 AM            

Awww, the Saturns in the 2nd ! LOL

I feel that he feels pretty much excited and happy about you two mainly cause your Jupiter and Mars (sextile his Sun and trine his Mars) fall on his second house, which is his ruling house of Taurus and also where his Saturn falls, so this is an house he's very comfortable with, especially since you also have Saturn in second, together with Venus which trines his Moon in his seventh (where also your Neptune in the 5th falls, which trines his Jupiter!)... and then your Moon, Pluto and SN fall in his 5th... where also his Pluto is ! And your Sun in his 4th.... trines his mercury in the 3rd. I see a lot of energy cause of your Mars contact also trines your Uranus. The fact is that his Sun in the 12th together with his ASC gemini and Venus Gemini, being a Taurus guy, needs to find a very stable romantic situation, given also his Saturn in the second, and so, I think, your Venus and Saturn in the second and your "intellectual" Virgo Sun in the third (which trines his Mercury) perfectly fit his romantic expectations.

Do you share some intellectual interest/activity?
There is something unusual in your relashionship, maybe something in your professional lives or way to deal with practical matters doesn't perfectly fit with your deep emotional interaction.

I would be wary of each others' idealization looking at your Neptune opposite his Venus in your 12th and his Jupiter in 11th opposite your Pluto and Moon, i.e. each of you might develope an idea of the other that is not perfectly real.....

posted March 26, 2019 03:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Could you post the synastry/composite between the two of you?

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posted March 26, 2019 04:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I'm curious if any one of you can interpret this? I just realized a Grand Cross in the composite of mine... It's Saturn oppose Chiron square the Venus/North Node opposition. Not sure what I'm supposed to make of this?

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Crickey...! I'm scared by the Grand Cross, any time I see it, I just gasp. But maybe it's just me, just the visual effect ?
Btw, the Grand Cross itself is usually a very stressful sign OR a big turning point, when something that took struggles gets accomplished, this is what I've learnt so far. If it's a synastry/composite, maybe it's a life changing one, I see it like the tarot card of the death, it doesn't have to be the death, but a big (maybe harsh) change as a result of the meeting or the relationship development.
Chiron square the Venus/NN opposition might be actually painful... in which house are those aspects? Saturn opposite Chiron might bring to run away from the difficulties/responsibilies of the relationship or just makes you "blind" and not willing to face those. With the Chiron square Venus/NN, there might be recurring issues keeping it all in a blind lane, preventing the main loving purpose to be nurtured/nurturing and to develope.

posted March 26, 2019 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I feel that he feels pretty much excited and happy about you two mainly cause your Jupiter and Mars (sextile his Sun and trine his Mars) fall on his second house, which is his ruling house of Taurus and also where his Saturn falls, so this is an house he's very comfortable with, especially since you also have Saturn in second, together with Venus which trines his Moon in his seventh (where also your Neptune in the 5th falls, which trines his Jupiter!)... and then your Moon, Pluto and SN fall in his 5th... where also his Pluto is ! And your Sun in his 4th.... trines his mercury in the 3rd. I see a lot of energy cause of your Mars contact also trines your Uranus. The fact is that his Sun in the 12th together with his ASC gemini and Venus Gemini, being a Taurus guy, needs to find a very stable romantic situation, given also his Saturn in the second, and so, I think, your Venus and Saturn in the second and your "intellectual" Virgo Sun in the third (which trines his Mercury) perfectly fit his romantic expectations.

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Sorry, I forgot to tell you I'm the one on the outer circle! 😔
He's the Virgo with Moon-Pluto-NN and Saturn-Venus.

Intellectual interest? Hmm...we both love psychology and that's how we first bonded. We also love the same type of movies & music and we share many similar views. He can almost always pinpoint what I want/like.

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There is something unusual in your relashionship, maybe something in your professional lives or way to deal with practical matters doesn't perfectly fit with your deep emotional interaction.

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Curious what you mean by this?

We both have heavy Neptune in our charts and I seem to attract such partners, so over the years I've learned to keep it in check. Still, I've this tendency to wear rose-tinted lens esp. in the beginning of my relationship and be extremely forgiving.

Btw, do you know what Vertex conjunct S/M Midpoint means in synastry? We have DW. I saw it ranked as "high compatibility" but not sure what it means.

We also have pattern completions in synastry:
His Sun/Mercury turn my Mars/Moon/Venus/Neptune t-squares into grandcross and my Mars/Lilith turn his Mars/Uranus/Mercury/Jupiter trines into kites.

Again, not sure how it feels to him but his planets completing my patterns is probably why I feel that he's "the one".

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Your take on the composite is interesting! 🙃 Our NN is in 5th house though, not 11th. I've been trying to comprehend the intensity I feel (and whether I'm the only one feeling it). I can totally picture being pulled down by the mundanes because we're both very practical people ($$ is important!), although I don't see my sexual attraction to him waning.

Why do you say this is probably the first such intense experience for us both? Do you see a serious problem with composite Mars opposite Uranus?

My natal Saturn conjuncts the composite Sun. What would you make of that?

Also, his natal Moon-Pluto-NN conjunction is conjunct the composite Pluto. Does it trigger intense feelings in him?

Sorry, I have so many questions! 😛

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Comp Saturn square NN and trine Neptune sextile Pluto square the stellium is probably how you "always found our way back to each other", I think it's a binding combination.

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posted March 26, 2019 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Btw, do you know what Vertex conjunct S/M Midpoint means in synastry? We have DW. I saw it ranked as "high compatibility" but not sure what it means.

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Sorry, I forgot this question! As far as I know, Vertex aspects are always highly karmic, I think on S/M Midpoint gives especially the feeling to "belong together". If it's DW, that's maybe one more reason you feel he's the one :-)

posted March 27, 2019 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
[B] I'm used to look at the chart grids more than the wheels cause I find the grid easier to track the aspects, it gives me a clearer picture somehow, so the wheel patterns confuse me sometime... if you have a synastry grid I might catch those interactions better.

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This is the synastry grid. He's the horizontal row (Sun in 3); I'm vertical (Sun in 12). Somehow certain aspects don't show in the grid (e.g. our Junos are opposite each other in 2° orb) so I usually check the orbs table below the wheel.

This is the composite grid. Same issue with the grid, e.g. Moon & NN are in a wide conjunction (7°) but it doesn't show.

I still hope to know how he might feel, and I like your interpretation on the Vertex-S/M midpoint. Since it's a DW, I supposed he feels the same way too (and that's why he repeatedly suggests ways I can stay in his life even if we cannot really be tog)?

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The Grand Cross resulting from the Sun/Mercury squares involves mutable signs of your T-squares. This kind of Grand Cross usually points to a potential communication struggle, and in fact the squares involve his Mercury and his Sun in the third house. Being the Grand Cross usually a "stressful" pattern, this might be maybe considered the potential "weak point" of the relationship...? In fact, this involves his Virgo Sun and his Mercury in the 2nd(together with his Saturn and Venus in the 2nd), which might be very well be linked to the "weak point" of the Composite 2nd house Saturn squares!

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Thanks for explaining this! On one hand, we read each other very well... we intuitively just know and I think this is due to our Neptune-Moon aspects, and we're also often on the same mental wavelength (Our Sun-Mercury connection shows strongly in synastry & composite). But there have been times (esp. lately) we "misunderstand" each other's intentions, esp me being the overanalyzer... I'm guilty of it more than him and Mercury square Neptune isn't helping. When I wanna clarify things, he just gets upset because I think my tone sometimes comes across more accusing than clarifying.

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This whole tangled picture (!!) might also be very well the fact why you feel he is the one, since both Grand Cross and Kite are very karmic patterns to me, and they suggest a personal development via the relationship.

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Since I'm the one completing his kite formations, shouldn't HE be the one "feeling" it?

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Your natal Saturn to the Comp. Sun suggests me your committment and long term purpose, but also your attitude to "analyze" the situation in your Taurus earthly way, since you probably wouldn't like to be too "sweeped off" by the emotional intensity of it all.

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True. The intensity really swept me off in a different way and I kept wondering if he feels the same. Sometimes I thought I was the crazy one... all alone in this.

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His natal Moon-Pluto-NN to the Comp. pluto might be adding the intense feeling, but does he really need more than how it already is ?? :-)

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