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virgolotus
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posted April 12, 2019 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also his Sun is conj my Mars in the 8th...

Should I be terrified? eek!

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posted April 12, 2019 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else that caught my eye was our North Nodes... I'm not very familiar with that but I've heard how important it could be in personal charts. Idk about synastry...

His NN is conj my Sun
My NN is opp his Sun

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posted April 15, 2019 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone that wants to skim through, please. I’m on the inside.

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posted April 15, 2019 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Venus is on your 8th as well :-)
Well, there's a lot of intensity and the feeling that you're strongly binded, it might be difficult to stay away from each others. It seems this person deeply inspires you, and by the way the attraction is pretty hot... You can idealize each others a lot, or see in the other what you lack. Communication might be hard though, you have different ways to express your emotional needs and sometimes there's need of compromise... you can be caught by a whirlwind of impulsive reactions and things can get quite out of control, in good or bad ways... he might look pretty detached sometimes, while you might need to feel much safer than how you feel about him. You're usually reasonable and logical, but with your Merrcury square Mars you might have sudden impulsive reactions... Uranus might act in an unpredictable way here, things can change fast between you two, and while you feel like "soulmates" sometimes, other times you just feel nothing is completely stable in this relationship. Some daily or professional issues might not fit the emotional demands of the relationships, and sometimes there's need of compromise. You have Saturn in 4th house Aquarius, and probably have learnt to be a self-reliant person, but deeply need stability with your Viirgo Sun/Jupiter and Moon in Capricorn, and maybe you struggle in finding this, since your Capricorn Uranus is square to your Venus in 12th. You probably might feel that he can give you such stability cause his Jupiter sextile your Venus and his Venus in your 8th house is trine to Saturn in your 4th which is trine to your Venus. Sometimes though he might not meet your expectations.
Btw, I think this is an interesting match, it can be intensely binding and challenging at the same time.

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posted April 15, 2019 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
His Venus is on your 8th as well :-)
Well, there's a lot of intensity and the feeling that you're strongly binded, it might be difficult to stay away from each others. It seems this person deeply inspires you, and by the way the attraction is pretty hot... You can idealize each others a lot, or see in the other what you lack. Communication might be hard though, you have different ways to express your emotional needs and sometimes there's need of compromise... you can be caught by a whirlwind of impulsive reactions and things can get quite out of control, in good or bad ways... he might look pretty detached sometimes, while you might need to feel much safer than how you feel about him. You're usually reasonable and logical, but with your Merrcury square Mars you might have sudden impulsive reactions... Uranus might act in an unpredictable way here, things can change fast between you two, and while you feel like "soulmates" sometimes, other times you just feel nothing is completely stable in this relationship. Some daily or professional issues might not fit the emotional demands of the relationships, and sometimes there's need of compromise. You have Saturn in 4th house Aquarius, and probably have learnt to be a self-reliant person, but deeply need stability with your Viirgo Sun/Jupiter and Moon in Capricorn, and maybe you struggle in finding this, since your Capricorn Uranus is square to your Venus in 12th. You probably might feel that he can give you such stability cause his Jupiter sextile your Venus and his Venus in your 8th house is trine to Saturn in your 4th which is trine to your Venus. Sometimes though he might not meet your expectations.
Btw, I think this is an interesting match, it can be intensely binding and challenging at the same time.

Thank you for that clear interpretation. Your words all resonate. Right now we are going through a challenging time where he told me he's trying to resist me in other words.... Idk where that came from but he has been keeping his distance.

Gemini's, am I right?

Is there anything that points to... being sneaky or lying about how they really feel?

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posted April 15, 2019 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Thank you for that clear interpretation. Your words all resonate. Right now we are going through a challenging time where he told me he's trying to resist me in other words.... Idk where that came from but he has been keeping his distance.

Gemini's, am I right?

Is there anything that points to... being sneaky or lying about how they really feel?


From the synastry, I'd say that he feels the bond as much as you do. Since your Venus falls on his 6th house opposite his Moon in twelve, he might not feel completely in tune with your emotional world. You have a good intellectual communication that works also on earthly matters and at this level you usually feel on the same page, but on the psychological level something is "foggy" between you two, you might not be aware of each other's issues. I can't say whether there's an intentional sneaky attitude, your relationship is somehow Neptunian/Mercurian though and whether you can't get in tune on the communication level, you both might develope a wrong idea about the other's attitude sometimes. He's a Gemini with Gemini Venus, this probably makes him easily "distracted" and appartently detached, but he also seems following a stubborn pattern, on a self-defensive way towards his own lack of self-value... his Taurus Chiron in 12th house looks for security even though he might not show this. He might suffer of depression and might prefer loneliness sometimes and to hide in his own world (which might be his work dimension as well, since his Saturn is Virgo). His Moon in 12th house ooposite his Pluto is daydreaming but might fear deep emotional involvement, and between you two it seems there's deep emotional involvement. Right at this moment, transit Saturn square his Pluto and transit Uranus on his Chiron square his Jupiter, he might feel the urge to change something, maybe about his work or social area... Transit Mars is in Gemini, conjunct to his Venus, trine your Venus and saturn, so there must be actually a lively feeling between you two, but transit Mars square his Saturn might make him hard to express himself these days, he might feel easily "restricted" and frustrated... and this might make him need to "escape" sometimes. Transit Neptune is opposite to your Sun and square to his Neptune, so a distrust issue can effectively be triggered or just things might not look completely clear between you two during this current transit.

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posted April 15, 2019 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: you might post a Composite chart if you wish for a further check :-)

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posted April 16, 2019 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
PS: you might post a Composite chart if you wish for a further check :-)

Thank you so much for your response!! I'm no good at synastry nor composite

Everything you describe still sticks close to our situation. About the Neptunian/Mercurial I can really feel that theme.
I'm thinking it might be the current transits but it's been 2 days since we've spoken. I'm heartbroken.....

Composite as requested!

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posted April 16, 2019 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Thank you so much for your response!! I'm no good at synastry nor composite

Everything you describe still sticks close to our situation. About the Neptunian/Mercurial I can really feel that theme.
I'm thinking it might be the current transits but it's been 2 days since we've spoken. I'm heartbroken.....

Composite as requested!


Oh thanks for the Composite :-)

Checking his chart again, I see more and more he has a complex personality. He's somehow a very Taurean personality, with his Sun in second house, Asc and Mars in Taurus... and Taurus Chiron, but in 12th. His communication might be actually elusive, cause he seems to keep some inner conflict and a deep emotional world locked inside (Sun sextile Moon opposite Pluto trine Venus square Saturn), he might have deep hidden self-esteem issues, and he can be very "moody", it might be difficult for other people to grasp what is going on in his mind. Having Mars/ASC in Taurus, he can be very radical and inflexible sometimes, without even being completely clear about his reasons though.

Looking at the Composite, it looks like a very emotional relationship that is trying to lift up from an earthly level to a more "other worldly" level, in an idealistic sense. NN in 9th house is linked to an higher emotional/intellectual union, while is square to the Sun/Venus/Mercury in 6th house, like if something struggles to take off and reach the higher potential, which is there with Jupiter sextile NN trine Neptune/trine Moon, very intense... but Moon opposite Jupiter/square Saturn and square Mars opposite Uranus, seems to block this and the outcome is in NN square Venus/Mercury, which is in your basic relationship 6th house... The Comp. ruler is 11th (Aquarius ASC) opposite to the 6th house where the Sun is, the "identity" of the Composite. Uranus, in thr 11th house, is both the lively and the destroyer energy. I think this all talks about a big compromise to look for, to make this all work out. Maybe some "higher" idealistic expectations might be downsized to that 6th house ground, together with some impulsive attitudes which might abruptely shake it all up, to reach that emotional Moon/Neptune balance pointing to the NN (the relationship purpose/higher potential). Saturn squares deeply bind you, it is in 10th house so it's quite stubborn, but it also might point to the fact that some practical/professional priorities might be a burden to that balance, and again it talks about compromise.

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posted April 16, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would add... Pluto conjunct NN trine Chiron in 5th house trine Moon... this is extremely intimate, you can potentially reach each others' most intimate "soul" just through your emotional interaction, and with Composite ruler 11th I think this points to this deep sharing and understanding, it might be worth to give more value to this aspect than any other :-)

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posted April 16, 2019 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I would add... Pluto conjunct NN trine Chiron in 5th house trine Moon... this is extremely intimate, you can potentially reach each others' most intimate "soul" just through your emotional interaction, and with Composite ruler 11th I think this points to this deep sharing and understanding, it might be worth to give more value to this aspect than any other :-)

Thank you.
I don't know what to make of it anymore. I initially thought he was a Taurus but I thought it was only bc of his Asc... our way of communication is very special to me. It is why I found interest and it is killing me that we haven't spoken. Going back to the polarity of feeling like a "soulmate" but then not. I feel like I can let go if needed and be fine... but something just keeps pulling me toward him. There was never any discord so this is why I am very confused as to what is happening. I'll see how it plays out and update!

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posted April 16, 2019 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at the transits on your Composite, at this moment transit Chiron is in Comp. third house and square to Comp. Chiron in 5th house + square Comp. Neptune, while Transit Venus and Mercury are square to Comp. Venus and Mercury, and this all can be actually "heartbreaking" or certainly pointing to a communication block... moreover, current transit Saturn and Pluto square Comp. Pluto might actually add a burden for a quite long time... Transit Uranus though is in Comp. 4th house trine to Comp. Jupiter in 7th house and sextile Comp. Moon in 1st house while transit Jupiter sextile Comp. Pluto and opposite Chiron... and Moon is conjunct NN. Transit Moon will get to Sagittarius next week reaching Jupiter, and Transit Mars is going to get out of orbit from Comp. Mars opposite Uranus... things might not get completely clear on the communication level the next ten days, but hopefully Moon/Jupiter and Mars moving away might bring some relief... Transit Venus and Mercury will be trine Comp. Venus and Mercury at the end of April, so hopefully things might become more balanced...

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posted April 16, 2019 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Thank you.
I don't know what to make of it anymore. I initially thought he was a Taurus but I thought it was only bc of his Asc... our way of communication is very special to me. It is why I found interest and it is killing me that we haven't spoken. Going back to the polarity of feeling like a "soulmate" but then not. I feel like I can let go if needed and be fine... but something just keeps pulling me toward him. There was never any discord so this is why I am very confused as to what is happening. I'll see how it plays out and update!

Thank you


Welcome :-) Yes please, update! With those transits I saw on the Composite, I think you might wait for a week until you can finally have more clear signs from him... The "soulmate" feeling is certainly there, with the Comp. stellium, and all those intense aspects :-)

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posted April 21, 2019 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted April 22, 2019 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After 2 days (felt like weeks) of not speaking we are back. It has been a roller coaster... he apparently has so many underlying issues. He keeps begging me to stop liking him because "he's not worth it" and "he's broken"
My Venus just knows how to pick them.

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posted April 23, 2019 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by virgolotus:
After 2 days (felt like weeks) of not speaking we are back. It has been a roller coaster... he apparently has so many underlying issues. He keeps begging me to stop liking him because "he's not worth it" and "he's broken"
My Venus just knows how to pick them.

So transit Venus/Mercury was a little helpful at least...? Unfortunately, his natal Saturn in 5th house square his Venus/ASC is pretty harsh, and it shows a deep wound in self-value, especially around intimate relationships... His NN conjunct Saturn in the same 5th house says that this is the areas supporting his self-value at the same time, and it is conjunct your Mercury/Sun/Jupiter, so you might actually be quite supportive for him... In Composite, Chiron is in 5th and NN in 9th house trine Comp. Moon and sextile Jupiter in 7th, this looks like your relationship should actually help him with his own issues. Maybe he just didn't get aware of this yet :-)

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