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Plut0nian2
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posted April 17, 2019 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both of these aspects natally so I don't feel them in synastries. I am particularly interested to know how the Neptune person feels about the Sun/ASC person. I'm not satisfied with what I can find online about it.

Please share your experiences

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posted April 17, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious about this too. Have someone's Neptune conjunct my DC exact.

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posted April 18, 2019 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Curious about this too. Have someone's Neptune conjunct my DC exact.

Do you have it natally too?

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posted April 18, 2019 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Do you have it natally too?

I don't have it natally. Although that person does, we share the same rising sign to the degree.

He once told me he thought of me as hot. I'm not sure how Neptune would see one that way. But just repeating his words. (In his natal chart, Neptune trine his Sun, sextile Pluto and inconjunct Mars.)

It might very well be other aspects though. His Pluto trine my AC exact. We have a Mars/Mars conjunction. And yeah other stuff so it might just be those.

To be honest initially when I got to know him he seemed perfect to me. Over time I just learned that our communicating chemistry sucks so that kinda faded. But I wouldn't be surprised if he idealized me too.

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posted April 18, 2019 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm taking your question in a completely different direction lol. I'm realizing now what your question is about, but I guess I'm still curious although I get that he might just not feel it at all given that he has it natally.

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posted April 18, 2019 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I'm taking your question in a completely different direction lol. I'm realizing now what your question is about, but I guess I'm still curious although I get that he might just not feel it at all given that he has it natally.

It's ok, in you case though he feels it because you said his Neptune is opposite your ASC.. Even though he has this aspect natally he is the generational planet.. He wouldn't feel it if it was your Neptune opposing his ASC because his Neptune already opposes his ASC.. Now you are the ASC/DSC person and he is Neptune. I hope I'm not confusing you more.

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posted April 18, 2019 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I don't have it natally. Although that person does, we share the same rising sign to the degree.

He once told me he thought of me as hot. I'm not sure how Neptune would see one that way. But just repeating his words. (In his natal chart, Neptune trine his Sun, sextile Pluto and inconjunct Mars.)

It might very well be other aspects though. His Pluto trine my AC exact. We have a Mars/Mars conjunction. And yeah other stuff so it might just be those.

To be honest initially when I got to know him he seemed perfect to me. Over time I just learned that our communicating chemistry sucks so that kinda faded. But I wouldn't be surprised if he idealized me too.


We have Pluto trine ASC too.
But I have it natally, he is the Pluto person.

That "perfrction" might be indeed Neptune's work. Do you have other Neptune aspects Miscommunication huh.. Where is your amd his mErcury? Do the form hard aspects?

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posted April 18, 2019 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
It's ok, in you case though he feels it because you said his Neptune is opposite your ASC.. Even though he has this aspect natally he is the generational planet.. He wouldn't feel it if it was your Neptune opposing his ASC because his Neptune already opposes his ASC.. Now you are the ASC/DSC person and he is Neptune. I hope I'm not confusing you more.

No you actually explained it well, thanks.

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posted April 18, 2019 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
We have Pluto trine ASC too.
But I have it natally, he is the Pluto person.

That "perfrction" might be indeed Neptune's work. Do you have other Neptune aspects Miscommunication huh.. Where is your amd his mErcury? Do the form hard aspects?


Our mercuries don't form any aspects, but it's inconjunct by sign. (mine Aries his Virgo)

However I realized he can have one sided conversations lol and check in with me every now and then as to why I'm so quiet haha. My Mercury trine his Sun. His Mercury square my Moon, sextile my Venus and trine my Uranus.

Moon is in the 12th in the composite. And Mercury oppose Neptune. However Mercury is in the first and trines Pluto and sextiles Jupiter (5 orb though) so dunno.

I think I feel it more. He has no issue with it it seems. Maybe cuz his Mercury squares my Moon. And his Saturn squares my Venus. However my Saturn squares his Moon. I'm not sure but I dislike hanging out with him for this one reason. I just don't have what to talk to him about lol.

I think ultimately it's the inconjunct Mercury signs. Cuz even when he does talk I simply don't feel like chiming in.

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posted April 18, 2019 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I think I feel it more. He has no issue with it it seems. Maybe cuz his Mercury squares my Moon. And his Saturn squares my Venus. However my Saturn squares his Moon. I'm not sure but I dislike hanging out with him for this one reason. I just don't have what to talk to him about lol.

I think ultimately it's the inconjunct Mercury signs. Cuz even when he does talk I simply don't feel like chiming in.


That's bad, liking someone but feel like you don't have much to say.. I can assure you though it's not the inconjunction especially if they don't form an aspect.

I have Mercury in Cancer (no hard aspects) and one of my fav Mercuries is Aqua.

I get along with Mercury in Sag too we talk for hours and the conversation is flowing although it's one of the worst signs for Mercury imo.

Moon square Mercury and Saturn square Moon are probably the reason for that feeling.
You don't feel (Moon) like communicating (Mercury) with him.
Saturn-Moon kind of ruins the mood too.

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posted April 18, 2019 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
That's bad, liking someone but feel like you don't have much to say.. I can assure you though it's not the inconjunction especially if they don't form an aspect.

I have Mercury in Cancer (no hard aspects) and one of my fav Mercuries is Aqua.

I get along with Mercury in Sag too we talk for hours and the conversation is flowing although it's one of the worst signs for Mercury imo.

Moon square Mercury and Saturn square Moon are probably the reason for that feeling.
You don't feel (Moon) like communicating (Mercury) with him.
Saturn-Moon kind of ruins the mood too.


True ok I guess that makes sense.

At this point I don't feel the same about him anymore. It's just that friend you don't wanna hang out with lol.

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posted April 18, 2019 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect in my natal chart.

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I am particularly interested to know how the Neptune person feels about the Sun/ASC person.

I idealized the Sun. We were kids, and he was everything a person that age should be - handsome, athletic, sociable...friendly to me.

I share this aspect with my dad, again I am Neptune. I idealized him until his Scorpio moon reared its head.

eta: the aspect with my dad was Asc opposite Neptune. I am Neptune.

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posted April 19, 2019 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I have this aspect in my natal chart.

I idealized the Sun. We were kids, and he was everything a person that age should be - hand, athletic, sociable...friendly to me.

I share this aspect with my dad, again I am Neptune. I idealized him until his Scorpio moon reared its head.


I'm interested to know about his Scorpio Moon. Do you share other negative aspects that are linked with your Neptune or his Sun?

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posted April 20, 2019 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm interested to know about his Scorpio Moon.

He likes strong, controlling, competitive women. Sun-Mars, Mars-Moon types. This moon has a gentle, easy, push-over side to it. They act to attract by inviting you to dominate them.

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Do you share other negative aspects that are linked with your Neptune or his Sun?

I don't quite understand this question.

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posted April 21, 2019 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
He likes strong, controlling, competitive women. Sun-Mars, Mars-Moon types. This moon has a gentle, easy, push-over side to it. They act to attract by inviting you to dominate them.

I don't quite understand this question.


What aspects does his Moon make?
Usually Scorpio Moons want to dominate.

About the question Is your dad's Sun or Moon making any hard aspect to your planets or your Neptune making a hard aspect to his planets/angles other than his Sun?

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posted April 21, 2019 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What aspects does his Moon make?
Usually Scorpio Moons want to dominate.

Scorpio Suns try to dominate, but the moons that come into my orbit project the image of a gentle something in need of protection. True, they are combative and headstrong, but I've seen them pushed around in ways I Scorpio Sun wont tolerate.

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About the question Is your dad's Sun or Moon making any hard aspect to your planets or your Neptune making a hard aspect to his planets/angles other than his Sun?

Squares everywhere.

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posted April 25, 2019 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Squares everywhere.


Thanks,
That's why I asked. I wanted to see if it was due to other hard aspects or just Neptune-Sun disappointment.

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posted April 25, 2019 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

You don't feel (Moon) like communicating (Mercury) with him.
Saturn-Moon kind of ruins the mood too.


My Saturn squares his Moon and I feel that he gets bipolar with me.

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posted April 26, 2019 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My Saturn squares his Moon and I feel that he gets bipolar with me.

Saturn-Moon and Saturn -Mars in hard aspect are the worst synaatry aspects for me.
I've always been Saturn.
I kind of had that bipolar thing byt not really that extreme.
Saturn-Mars is an sexual block 110% for me

Saturn-Moon I kind of felt since the beginning that he was a bit imature, childlike and stupid although he wasn:t really stupid. I couldn't take him seriously and he didn't seem stable emotionally to me. (I had the opposition)

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posted April 26, 2019 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

Saturn-Moon I kind of felt since the beginning that he was a bit imature, childlike and stupid although he wasn:t really stupid. I couldn't take him seriously and he didn't seem stable emotionally to me. (I had the opposition)

As Saturn, I feel that the Moon person acts this way to get attention. I'll settle him down and he feels comforted, but the next time he'll bring up the same issues and I'll need to comfort him again. If I ignore it he says I'm cold.

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Saturn-Mars is an sexual block 110% for me

Who feels blocked? You as Saturn or the Mars person? Did you suddenly feel they're unattractive and doesn't turn you on?

I'm Saturn conjunct his Mars but I don't feel this way.

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posted April 26, 2019 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:

s Saturn, I feel that the Moon person acts this way to get attention. I'll settle him down and he feels comforted, but the next time he'll bring up the same issues and I'll need to comfort him again. If I ignore it he says I'm cold.

You know what I tend to forget about Scorpio Moons who square my Saturn. It was better than the opposition probably because Scorpio at those degrees trines my Sun, Moon and ASC too. I felt they were a bit too sensitive and complaining for no reason. They would consider me cold too. They needed emotional reassurance.
But the Leo Moon (opposite my Saturn) was very unappealling to me.. Also Leo Moon is inconjunct my Pisces Moon. I believe positive aspects help indeed a lot

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Who feels blocked? You as Saturn or the Mars person? Did you suddenly feel they're unattractive and doesn't turn you on?

I'm Saturn conjunct his Mars but I don't feel this way.


I've been many times the Saturn person squaring Scorpio Mars. My Saturn is in 8th H and it may have to do with it. I was the one feeling blocked and it was weird because I felt turned on by them. For one I also had very strong feelings for plus I was comfortable and felt close with them. I'm sure they felt that block too, they wouldn't tell me anything that could have any sexual meaning let alone talk about sex.. They felt that I would "reject" it and be cold (and they were right about it).
It hasn't been a long time since I understood that it was this synastry aspect and not my Saturn in 8th H by itself. (I was meeting Mars in Scorpio men along with other standard placements for quite a few years, I was falling for them because of other nice aspects and placements).
Oh.. I forgot to mention that their Mars was in my 5th H trining my Moon, Sun and ASC. Probably that's why I was turned on by them. I didn't find them unattractive suddenly no.

How does the conjunction play out for you?

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posted April 26, 2019 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read about Saturn in 8h, that it causes a fear in deep intimacy. I think that's the reason why you particularly don't like it when it's badly aspected. It will affect your Saturn more than others.

I didn't feel a sexual block that's why I asked what you mean since you feel an attraction. I'm very sexual with him, in fact very lusty. Lol. We have other sexual aspects (Mars-Jupiter/Pluto/Uranus/Sun) maybe that helps.

My friend has Saturn square Mars with her husband.

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posted April 26, 2019 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I read about Saturn in 8h, that it causes a fear in deep intimacy. I think that's the reason why you particularly don't like it when it's badly aspected. It will affect your Saturn more than others.

I didn't feel a sexual block that's why I asked what you mean since you feel an attraction. I'm very sexual with him, in fact very lusty. Lol. We have other sexual aspects (Mars-Jupiter/Pluto/Uranus/Sun) maybe that helps.

My friend has Saturn square Mars with her husband.


I had all the aspects you mentioned
Mars-Sun, Moon, ASC, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus too. Pluto was about 8-9 orbs so I don't consider it a valid aspect. Those relationships were platonic so maybe I would see other negative things of this aspect like for ex wantong to control/limit his actions etc.

How long have you been with him? Saturn reveals himself slowly.

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posted May 03, 2019 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How long have you been with him? Saturn reveals himself slowly.

1-yr. I've issues with some of his behaviour patterns as well but that didn't stop me from feeling sexual with him. Don't forget Saturn is also very lusty and persevering. It will take what it wants. My Mars also falls in his 8th house which is a very sexual placement.

My friend whose Saturn square her husband's Mars also still feel sexually attracted to him despite being together for more than a decade already, so I think it makes a difference whether this is a romantic or platonic r/s (just like I don't feel sexual with a friend just because we've Venus-Mars or Moon-Mars). The romantic connection has to be there.

Also, conjunctions play out both ways, good & bad. At times I criticise & restrict him but he also comes to me for advice. E.g. once I got really mad at him for something and I literally dragged him outta the place. He was annoyed but one week later he thanked me for doing that as he knew if I had not done what I did, he would have made a terrible mistake.

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