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nomad-monad
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posted April 27, 2019 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very curious to hear what you good peoples have to say about the following synastry+composite charts.

We had a good time but haven't seen each other for 1.5 years now.
Things blew up a bit but I think it was purposeful - a push for both to transform certain things within ourselves before a possible reunion.

I be Blue. She be red.


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posted April 27, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 28, 2019 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
I am very curious to hear what you good peoples have to say about the following synastry+composite charts.

We had a good time but haven't seen each other for 1.5 years now.
Things blew up a bit but I think it was purposeful - a push for both to transform certain things within ourselves before a possible reunion.

I be Blue. She be red.


Hi nomad-monad, honestly... it looked simple at first look, but the more I look at your charts, the more I feel there's something quite complex here. You look like "soulmates" but of a highly challenging kind, despite the apparently "clean" Composite chart. It seems you might deeply know each others, that you might have gone through a lot and shared a lot (there's also a psychic link between you two) and I see a kind of "higher love" (Composite Sun/Venus in 9th house trine Composite Moon in 12th house, and Chiron Cancer/1st house opposite Saturn/Neptune in 7th house).

First thing I noticed is DW Moon 12th house overlay and Chiron square Chiron in synastry. You two might have found support in each others but at the same time nothing seems to ever be fulfilling enough between you two. You might see yourself reflected in the other, and this way you might trigger your deepest wounds sometimes more than support each others, cause you have similar issues of a deep dissatisfaction about your individual achievements/talents/identity. You both might find hard to "target" your powerful, relentless and creative energies, might become erratic or question yourself too much. You both might have some "anger control" issue and might act aggressive against each others.

Your (nomad-monad) natal Chiron is in 12th house conjunct your Ascendant opposite your Saturn/Mars square your Sun/Venus. This is an harsh aspect of yours about your self-confidence and you might actually find more comfort in supporting/encouraging/appreciating others than yourself... moreover, your Sagittarius Saturn 6th house opposite your ASC/Chiron needs to gain a lot of faith in life and to look at the "brighter" side, towards an "higher mind" development (Chiron in Gemini opposite Saturn in Sagittarius).
Since her Moon is on your 12th house opposite the Pluto/Jupiter conjunction, the mutual "support" aspect might be what your bond is mainly about, such support might not be always beneficial though, it might turn to mutual burden and blame and might bring frustration instead (synastry Chiron square Chiron opposite Sun/Saturn).

The composite shows that there's clearly a strong energy and intimacy between you two. Comp. North Node in Aquarius 8th house square to Comp. Pluto and opposite Comp. Chiron 1st house suggests that such deep intimacy needs an emotional balance otherwise the main darkest energies of your relationship might become painful (her Pluto/NN square your Sun/Venus/Saturn/Venus conjunctions in synastry, and your natal Mars/Saturn square synastry Sun/Venus/Venus/Saturn/Mercury conjunctions).

Composite Moon in 12th house trine Comp. Sun/Venus is emotionally "hungry" and "lonely" at the same time. Again there is a sense of incompletion here (cause of the 12th house placement). Comp Uranus opposite Chiron and ASC is highly challenging, it suggests that a deep mutual respect for each others' freedom and sensitive individual issues has to be found, and times of separation might be necessary. Composite NN/Aquarius square Comp. Pluto says pretty much the same, pointing to "letting go" of selfish attitudes.
This looks like an highly karmic relationship, and it might be an "endless" one, i.e. you might not be able to ever really detach from each others, no matter the distance or the events between you two (North Node opposite North Node and Pluto/Jupiter trine Saturn/Sun/Venus in synastry).


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posted April 30, 2019 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi nomad-monad
it seems to me that she wasn't taken with your noncommittal stances. you enjoy your independence and I think she was looking for more reliability. you might have tried to walk that walk but your heart is not into a serious romantic partnership with her.

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posted May 10, 2019 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi nomad-monad, honestly... it looked simple at first look, but the more I look at your charts, the more I feel there's something quite complex here. You look like "soulmates" but of a highly challenging kind, despite the apparently "clean" Composite chart. It seems you might deeply know each others, that you might have gone through a lot and shared a lot (there's also a psychic link between you two) and I see a kind of "higher love" (Composite Sun/Venus in 9th house trine Composite Moon in 12th house, and Chiron Cancer/1st house opposite Saturn/Neptune in 7th house).

First thing I noticed is DW Moon 12th house overlay and Chiron square Chiron in synastry. You two might have found support in each others but at the same time nothing seems to ever be fulfilling enough between you two. You might see yourself reflected in the other, and this way you might trigger your deepest wounds sometimes more than support each others, cause you have similar issues of a deep dissatisfaction about your individual achievements/talents/identity. You both might find hard to "target" your powerful, relentless and creative energies, might become erratic or question yourself too much. You both might have some "anger control" issue and might act aggressive against each others.

Your (nomad-monad) natal Chiron is in 12th house conjunct your Ascendant opposite your Saturn/Mars square your Sun/Venus. This is an harsh aspect of yours about your self-confidence and you might actually find more comfort in supporting/encouraging/appreciating others than yourself... moreover, your Sagittarius Saturn 6th house opposite your ASC/Chiron needs to gain a lot of faith in life and to look at the "brighter" side, towards an "higher mind" development (Chiron in Gemini opposite Saturn in Sagittarius).
Since her Moon is on your 12th house opposite the Pluto/Jupiter conjunction, the mutual "support" aspect might be what your bond is mainly about, such support might not be always beneficial though, it might turn to mutual burden and blame and might bring frustration instead (synastry Chiron square Chiron opposite Sun/Saturn).

The composite shows that there's clearly a strong energy and intimacy between you two. Comp. North Node in Aquarius 8th house square to Comp. Pluto and opposite Comp. Chiron 1st house suggests that such deep intimacy needs an emotional balance otherwise the main darkest energies of your relationship might become painful (her Pluto/NN square your Sun/Venus/Saturn/Venus conjunctions in synastry, and your natal Mars/Saturn square synastry Sun/Venus/Venus/Saturn/Mercury conjunctions).

Composite Moon in 12th house trine Comp. Sun/Venus is emotionally "hungry" and "lonely" at the same time. Again there is a sense of incompletion here (cause of the 12th house placement). Comp Uranus opposite Chiron and ASC is highly challenging, it suggests that a deep mutual respect for each others' freedom and sensitive individual issues has to be found, and times of separation might be necessary. Composite NN/Aquarius square Comp. Pluto says pretty much the same, pointing to "letting go" of selfish attitudes.
This looks like an highly karmic relationship, and it might be an "endless" one, i.e. you might not be able to ever really detach from each others, no matter the distance or the events between you two (North Node opposite North Node and Pluto/Jupiter trine Saturn/Sun/Venus in synastry).


This is an amazing reading Stoika, you are pretty much on point with my experience.

In fact, this is a Twin Flame relationship, so in that sense the highly challenging aspect is related to breaking free of a 3D-perspective to enter the 5D: our separation-process is a prompting for both of us to struggle out of the chrysalis and bridge our masculine-feminine aspects on our own, before a reunion is possible.

It seems Capricorn is a major focus for our relationship looking at the composite. What do you say about this? We are both aiming toward art as our profession, and met in art school. In addition, we both have Neptune in Capricorn, and I have my MC there as well at 29 cap.

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posted May 10, 2019 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi nomad-monad
it seems to me that she wasn't taken with your noncommittal stances. you enjoy your independence and I think she was looking for more reliability. you might have tried to walk that walk but your heart is not into a serious romantic partnership with her.

todd


Interesting Todd, how did you reach this conclusion? My experience is that it has been the opposite case - considering the expression of her Aquarian energies combined with her stubborn Moon in Taurus.

We both respect and appreciate our own and each other's independence, and I think this was one of the major strengths of our relation.

Whereas I think her heart was in it, I think her chart-orchestration in conjunction with her historical 3d-makeup made it difficult for her to take the step from friendship to romance at this point in time. Now, I think/hope she is in a position to rethink our relationship - time will tell.

Further, I think this is all a part of our 'plan' to as stated above brige the polar aspects of our own selves before we possibly meet again.

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posted May 10, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
This is an amazing reading Stoika, you are pretty much on point with my experience.

In fact, this is a Twin Flame relationship, so in that sense the highly challenging aspect is related to breaking free of a 3D-perspective to enter the 5D: our separation-process is a prompting for both of us to struggle out of the chrysalis and bridge our masculine-feminine aspects on our own, before a reunion is possible.

It seems Capricorn is a major focus for our relationship looking at the composite. What do you say about this? We are both aiming toward art as our profession, and met in art school. In addition, we both have Neptune in Capricorn, and I have my MC there as well at 29 cap.


Hi nomad-monad, you know, this is all very interesting. i have talked of a challenging kind of soulmates, and you mentioned the "twin flame" relationship... I'm not actually a believer of such things, but I find that the twin flame dynamics actually match the situation... here she looks like the "runner" one though, and the person who is more challenged by the relationship, cause she looks like having deeper inner conflicts than you, about her emotional world and her inner balance, issues triggered by the relationship. So I suspect that her detachment is more about "escaping" her own issues than about finding her own way to self-development, which she might certainly find on her own being a very independent person; in this case though, within your relationship, she seems to take such independence choice more as an "excuse"... this is because her natal Uranus is opposite her ASC and trine to Moon, whereas Moon is square to Sun... this combination looks like one might feel their freedom is challenged as their inner emotional issues are triggered, so they might choose not to commit instead of facing their emotional struggle given by the natal hard Sun/Moon aspect. Moreover, she seems to have issues with masculine authority figures (did she have issues with her father?), while she's actually struggling to set her feminine nature free. This is because her Venus/Saturn is opposite her Chiron. The Venus/Saturn conjunction is also attached to your Sun, so this looks like that while you might mirror her masculine side, representing her inner conflict given by the Saturn/Venus aspects, she might not feel comfortable with her feminine side within your relationship, which is an inner issue of her (on a subconscious level), given by the Chiron opposition. On the other side, the amazing thing is that you have a mirror aspect to this, cause you have your Saturn/Mars opposite Chiron/ASC. This configuration looks like your masculine side is strong but you might struggle in balancing this against a inner "anger management" or a tendency to act in an "authoritative" way which you might seek to control trying not to lose your masculine side (on a subconscious level as well). Such a struggle might turn out to make you insecure, especially within a committed relationship, since your natal Saturn is square to Sun. At the same time, your natal Sun/Venus seeks for armonious true love relationship, and being the Saturn/Sun hard aspect willing to face issues and struggles, you seem much more willing to commit a challenging relationship than her.
Such strong natal Saturn aspects in your synastry and Composite Capricorn Saturn in 7th house seem to be linked to the Capricorn impact on your relationship, which I think is mainly represented by the Capricorn chart ruler (Saturn).
Here Composite Saturn in 7th house is usually challenging but it falls on its most comfortable sign (Capricon) and it is conjunct Neptune, looking like the couple is potentially committed for a successful relationship and in finding a balance between their "higher love" connection and the restrictions from Saturn. This is a very karmic aspect indeed.

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posted May 17, 2019 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 26, 2019 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
I am very curious to hear what you good peoples have to say about the following synastry+composite charts.

We had a good time but haven't seen each other for 1.5 years now.
Things blew up a bit but I think it was purposeful - a push for both to transform certain things within ourselves before a possible reunion.

I be Blue. She be red.


Are the birthtimes correct?

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posted May 30, 2019 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Are the birthtimes correct?


I assume so. Why?

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posted May 30, 2019 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi nomad-monad, you know, this is all very interesting. i have talked of a challenging kind of soulmates, and you mentioned the "twin flame" relationship... I'm not actually a believer of such things, but I find that the twin flame dynamics actually match the situation... here she looks like the "runner" one though, and the person who is more challenged by the relationship, cause she looks like having deeper inner conflicts than you, about her emotional world and her inner balance, issues triggered by the relationship. So I suspect that her detachment is more about "escaping" her own issues than about finding her own way to self-development, which she might certainly find on her own being a very independent person; in this case though, within your relationship, she seems to take such independence choice more as an "excuse"... this is because her natal Uranus is opposite her ASC and trine to Moon, whereas Moon is square to Sun... this combination looks like one might feel their freedom is challenged as their inner emotional issues are triggered, so they might choose not to commit instead of facing their emotional struggle given by the natal hard Sun/Moon aspect.

Well, about TF I understand your skepticism but let me tell you, they are very likely real. Beyond astrology there's just been way too many different experiences/signs speaking in favor of it that are generally considered to be TF-markers.

And you are right again, she is the runner and how you describe her escapism is pretty much exactly what I pointed out to her and this 'candidness' is the reason for our current separation.

I erased my previous reply since I think it was somewhat premature - need to digest this information a bit more before I reply.

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posted May 31, 2019 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 17, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
Well, about TF I understand your skepticism but let me tell you, they are very likely real. Beyond astrology there's just been way too many different experiences/signs speaking in favor of it that are generally considered to be TF-markers.

And you are right again, she is the runner and how you describe her escapism is pretty much exactly what I pointed out to her and this 'candidness' is the reason for our current separation.

I erased my previous reply since I think it was somewhat premature - need to digest this information a bit more before I reply.


Hi nomad-monad, please forgive my terrible delay, I've been through an exhausting house moving !!
But before that, I actually had read your long reply, which I wanted to reply to but didnt make it in time... I can't remember all details now and the full depth analysis you had written, which I though was clearly showing your deep awareness of the whole situation... please feel free to continue if you like, I'd love to hear what you have figured out in the meantime... I think you were asking about transits... with tr. Pluto/SN opposite your Composite Chiron trine Neptune, Jupiter opposite Composite Moon, tr. Uranus conjunct Comp. Sun/Moon midpoint, some new developments/turning point might come within/soon after the first half of August, when tr. NN will be conjunct to comp. Chiron and tr. Moon will be conjunct to Comp. NN... it all looks pretty karmic though, with those tr. NN, Comp. Chiron and SN involved... maybe some new awareness/clarity about the relationship is coming.

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posted July 19, 2019 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi nomad-monad, please forgive my terrible delay, I've been through an exhausting house moving !!
But before that, I actually had read your long reply, which I wanted to reply to but didnt make it in time... I can't remember all details now and the full depth analysis you had written, which I though was clearly showing your deep awareness of the whole situation... please feel free to continue if you like, I'd love to hear what you have figured out in the meantime... I think you were asking about transits... with tr. Pluto/SN opposite your Composite Chiron trine Neptune, Jupiter opposite Composite Moon, tr. Uranus conjunct Comp. Sun/Moon midpoint, some new developments/turning point might come within/soon after the first half of August, when tr. NN will be conjunct to comp. Chiron and tr. Moon will be conjunct to Comp. NN... it all looks pretty karmic though, with those tr. NN, Comp. Chiron and SN involved... maybe some new awareness/clarity about the relationship is coming.

Thanks Stoika for bringing this up again.
Hope the house move went well!

I actually sent her an email the day after the cancer solar eclipse just as an attempt to communicate some more positive vibrations compared to our last communication over the eclipse in january. That following night I had a vivid dream where we met and apologized to each other.

I will give you a detailed reply hopefully Sunday or beginning of next week. Will be traveling tomorrow so need to prep for this.

For now, I noticed some asteroid conjunctions during the cap eclipse that caught my eye. Are you into asteroids? If you are, I can expand on my findings.

For example specifically conjunct her Moon at 20 taurus are transiting:

Soomana, 18°13
[CITY], 18°57 (Name ast for town I am in)
Mors-Somnus, 19°21
Althaea, 19°35
Excalibur, 21°37
Siva 21°39

Apollo and Isis conj her Chiron.

Parvati + Innanen at 22can were both conj comp Chiron and tr Sun at 24Can, which is conjunct my 23 Moon (and moving on to her asc at 26).

What is even more funny is that three 'masculine heroes' are making significant aspect to these.

Adonis: Libra 22.02
Parsifal: Scorpio 22.20
Jason: Pisces 22.20

So nice numerology + making 2 trines and 1 square to 'divine feminine' Inannen and Parvati.

I am sure there are even more curious aspects but I don't have time to deep-dive right now.

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posted July 19, 2019 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi nomad-monad,
oh I didn't know the eclipse had provoked lots of house moving, LOL ! Well, I was curious and I went to check, it didn't hit my 2nd but my 4th house, and I'm having transit Uranus conjunct Saturn in my 2nd since last month :-) Looks like big radical longterm change!

Well, I am not so familiar with all those asteroids but it's very interesting, it gives me the feeling she's gaining some strenght in her emotional and identity world, maybe dealing better with those inner issues of hers... moreover, with tr. Pluto/SN conjunct her Uranus/Neptune opposite her ASC she might be getting through deep, maybe radical, transformation and she might find new ideal/goals while letting others go, maybe after some kind of waking up or disappointment, but especially her self-awareness and sense of "ego" might be empowered by these transits. Her Cancer ASC might have been affected by the Cancer Moon eclipse as well, and together with tr. Pluto/SN on her Neptune, she might have nurtured a deeper feeling of compassion and selflessness... since you have such a special other wordly connection with her beyond time and space, maybe you have felt this state of her mind and that's why you had that dream? Or maybe you just know deep inside yourself that you two have already apologized to each others :-)

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