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Annerice
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posted April 28, 2019 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everybody

There are 2 guys, one born on 22.12, the other - on 24.12 (same year). One is just a friend, no attraction towards him.
The other is a coworker and i am magnetically drawn to him!

The difference is in their moons and ascendants, the rest is almost the same.

I'm just wondering what makes me so much attracted to the 2nd guy.
Any ideas??

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Bismarck2
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posted April 28, 2019 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
Hello everybody

There are 2 guys, one born on 22.12, the other - on 24.12 (same year). One is just a friend, no attraction towards him.
The other is a coworker and i am magnetically drawn to him!

The difference is in their moons and ascendants, the rest is almost the same.

I'm just wondering what makes me so much attracted to the 2nd guy.
Any ideas??


post the synastry/composite.

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Plut0nian2
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posted April 28, 2019 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Annerice:
Hello everybody

There are 2 guys, one born on 22.12, the other - on 24.12 (same year). One is just a friend, no attraction towards him.
The other is a coworker and i am magnetically drawn to him!

The difference is in their moons and ascendants, the rest is almost the same.

I'm just wondering what makes me so much attracted to the 2nd guy.
Any ideas??


Both Moon and ASC are important.
5th/7th and 8th H placements are the most important in my experience.
Your Moon in any of this houses will have a huge impact on you for example.
Or your planets might be in aspect to the 2nd guy's Moon or ASC. For example Pluto/Neptune/Saturn on his Moon would make a huge difference.
Also your Sun/Moon midpoint in hard aspect to his Moon or ASC.. or other important love midpoints which I don't know of. However from what I read Sun/Moon midpoint is as important as Sun/Sun, Sun/Moon and Moon/Moon aspects.

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Annerice
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posted April 29, 2019 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your feedback.

The problem is I don't know the birthtime of the 2nd guy. I think his asc. might be Leo, though, in which case my mars at 27 deg. LEO from 8th house either conjucts his asc.or just happens to be in his 1st house.
Also, his venus conjuncts my antivertex (2 deg.), maybe it draws me in so much to him??
As for midpoints, yes, we have some string ones:
His venus/mars and venus/jup conjuncts my sun and uranus in scorpio under 1 deg.
His venus/pluto is exactly on my venus in Sag.
His sun/juno is exactly on my sun/moon midpoint.
There are others, don't recall now exactly.
But i have not checked midpoints with the 1st guy.

As for moon: 2nd guy has it in aqua. I have no planets in aqua. If my guess on his leo asc. is correct, than his moon sextiles my asc,venus and squares my sun. That's it. Generally, i do not like aqua moons, they are too detached for me (being virgo moon myself).

What i have in common with both guys are:
Their mars square my venus (1 deg)
Their mars conjunct my moon (about 4 degrees)
Their mercury conjunct my venus-asc (1-3 degrees)
Their BML conjunct my mars, my lilith (the one from drop-down menu of Astro.com) conjunct their mars.
Their mars and jup conjunct my moon ans jup.
Just a short list of the mutual aspects.

So does the vertex connection really has so much impact??

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posted April 29, 2019 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, i forgot to mention that my progressed chart is almost similar to his natal one now. I read at lindaland it makes 2 people drawn to each other magneticslly.
But again, after about 2 years my progressed chart will also resemble the 1st guy's natal one,lol it is absolutely impossible to have anything with him, he will soon marry my best friend.

So i am confused.

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Plut0nian2
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posted April 29, 2019 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
Oh, i forgot to mention that my progressed chart is almost similar to his natal one now. I read at lindaland it makes 2 people drawn to each other magneticslly.
But again, after about 2 years my progressed chart will also resemble the 1st guy's natal one,lol it is absolutely impossible to have anything with him, he will soon marry my best friend.

So i am confused.



I thought you knew his tob.
If you don't know it then it has no point really.
We are just speculating.

In mu case if there are no 5th and 7th H placements I'm not falling for the guy. It's as simple as that.
I had Mars/Venus, Venus/Moon, Venus/Venus and Sun/Moon nice aspects all at the same time and I've never fall for them because they didn't activate those houses.
With the ones I've fallen for I have Venus/Venus inconjunction and other aspects.

Houses are too important imo and they are very underrated.
His Moon could be in Cap or Pisces maybe depending on his tob.

Vertex in my case hasn't prive to be important at all. I had people whose Moon/Mercury/Venus conjuncted it and didn't really do much for me.

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posted April 29, 2019 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

I thought you knew his tob.
If you don't know it then it has no point really.
We are just speculating.

In mu case if there are no 5th and 7th H placements I'm not falling for the guy. It's as simple as that.
I had Mars/Venus, Venus/Moon, Venus/Venus and Sun/Moon nice aspects all at the same time and I've never fall for them because they didn't activate those houses.
With the ones I've fallen for I have Venus/Venus inconjunction and other aspects.

Houses are too important imo and they are very underrated.
His Moon could be in Cap or Pisces maybe depending on his tob.

Vertex in my case hasn't prive to be important at all. I had people whose Moon/Mercury/Venus conjuncted it and didn't really do much for me.


In my case, this is the 1st time someone has activated my vertex. Actually i have never felt like this.
His moon remains in aqua during the 24 hours on that date.
What is really amazing for me is that, as it seems, the ascendant sign makes such a big difference (?).

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posted April 29, 2019 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
In my case, this is the 1st time someone has activated my vertex. Actually i have never felt like this.
His moon remains in aqua during the 24 hours on that date.
What is really amazing for me is that, as it seems, the ascendant sign makes such a big difference (?).

You see it just as an ASC. Acually it's 12 houses and the Moon.
We were discussing at another thread how a pair of twins born within 20 mins difference (maybe it's more or a tiny bit less I don't have their birthtimes it's been a few years since I saw their charts) were so different from each other. That is actually the reason that I wanted to see their chart, to see if their house placements were different.
Also my friend born 3 days earlier than me is so different both her and her life.

Our Mars for example is in the same sign and makes same aspects mine is in the 2nd H and hers in her 6th H. So I can clearly see how hers affects her routine (6th H) and gives her Virgo qualities, while mine has more Taurus qualities and cares more about 2nd H matters.

I forgot to mention that my vertex is actually square my Moon and I can't stand hard aspects to my Moon it's both in a sensitive sign (Pisces) and it doesn't make hard aspects in my natal chart. So everything that conjuncts my Vertex squares my Moon and my part of fortune that might be a reason I dislike it when someone's planet conjuncts my Vertex.
But also I don't feel like this aspect brings smth important.

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posted April 29, 2019 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
You see it just as an ASC. Acually it's 12 houses and the Moon.
We were discussing at another thread how a pair of twins born within 20 mins difference (maybe it's more or a tiny bit less I don't have their birthtimes it's been a few years since I saw their charts) were so different from each other. That is actually the reason that I wanted to see their chart, to see if their house placements were different.
Also my friend born 3 days earlier than me is so different both her and her life.

Our Mars for example is in the same sign and makes same aspects mine is in the 2nd H and hers in her 6th H. So I can clearly see how hers affects her routine (6th H) and gives her Virgo qualities, while mine has more Taurus qualities and cares more about 2nd H matters.

I forgot to mention that my vertex is actually square my Moon and I can't stand hard aspects to my Moon it's both in a sensitive sign (Pisces) and it doesn't make hard aspects in my natal chart. So everything that conjuncts my Vertex squares my Moon and my part of fortune that might be a reason I dislike it when someone's planet conjuncts my Vertex.
But also I don't feel like this aspect brings smth important.



I think, in my case, one of the big factors which makes me drawn to him is that my natal chart has progressed to the same placements as his natal one (asc. remains under question).
By the way, i just checked for curiosity the chart of the 1st guy (my friend) who is going to marry my best friend. Guess what i have found? Her progressed asc. is almost the same as his natal asc.! And they have known each other for many years,but have only recently developed serious feelings towards each other.
So progressed to natal correlation is really a big factor, among others.

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Plut0nian2
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posted April 29, 2019 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
I think, in my case, one of the big factors which makes me drawn to him is that my natal chart has progressed to the same placements as his natal one (asc. remains under question).
By the way, i just checked for curiosity the chart of the 1st guy (my friend) who is going to marry my best friend. Guess what i have found? Her progressed asc. is almost the same as his natal asc.! And they have known each other for many years,but have only recently developed serious feelings towards each other.
So progressed to natal correlation is really a big factor, among others.


What you're saying makes sense actually, I've read about it but I haven't seen this happening as often tbh.

If you knew his tob we could also see his declinations.

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posted April 29, 2019 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
What you're saying makes sense actually, I've read about it but I haven't seen this happening as often tbh.

If you knew his tob we could also see his declinations.


Sorry, what do you mean by declinations? I'm unfamiliar with it :-(

You can check maybe the charts of couples close to you, i think there will be smth. in their progressed to natal charts.

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posted April 29, 2019 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
Sorry, what do you mean by declinations? I'm unfamiliar with it :-(

You can check maybe the charts of couples close to you, i think there will be smth. in their progressed to natal charts.


I have checked many synastry charts although not as many as natal charts which are definately a few hundreds by now for sure.

Just with a quick calculation in my mind it's around 50 synastry charts just from friends and relatives. I have checkes natal to progressed planets, transits to both, declinations and synastries aspects. That's why I said that it is not something I see happening as often (natal to progressed).
The problem is I don't have time for all of the people.
However I see the house placements I mentioned and Sun/Moon midpoint a lot. Also a transit activating both people's houses/natal/progressed planets at the same time.

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posted April 29, 2019 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For declinations go to "astro.com" choose the natal/synastry chart of the people you want.
Click on the PDF (it's under the name and above the natal/synastry chart). Then choose Additional tables
Open the PDF file and you'll see a column that says "Declination"
You can see your natal declinations and synastry declinations. You care about the planets which are parallel (they give an effect similar to conjunction) and contra-parallel (gives an effect similar to opposition). For example your Venus is 10°10' S (which means South) while his Venus is 10°25' N (which means North)
so your Venus are contra-parallel to each other. If his Venus is 10°30 S then they are parallel. The declination aspects are said to be valid if they are 1 orb and half max far from each other. So if your Venus is 10°00'00"S and his Venus is 12°00'00"S then they are not considered to be parallel.

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posted April 29, 2019 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, i will give it a try.

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