posted April 29, 2019 10:10 AM            

is this a mutual attraction? actually I feel he's also into me but I feel he's a guy who wants to take things slow (taurus venus? almost no fire on his birth chart?) and this could be good for me but I would like to know if you see a mutual important aspects. i'm worried about that saturn conjunct my DSC...

I'm the red one, he's the blue one!

thank you!!

posted April 29, 2019 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by melinazonk:
I really really like this guy, mentally and phisically, but things are running soooooo slow and i'm not used to it lol

is this a mutual attraction? actually I feel he's also into me but I feel he's a guy who wants to take things slow (taurus venus? almost no fire on his birth chart?) and this could be good for me but I would like to know if you see a mutual important aspects. i'm worried about that saturn conjunct my DSC...

I'm the red one, he's the blue one!

thank you!!

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posted April 30, 2019 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
...Venus/ASC Taurus AND Sun in 2nd :-)
There is a lot of attraction (Pluto/Pluto + DW Lilith on partner's 8th house) and Venus/Moon, NN/Moon look very nice.
Pluto/Pluto square his Mars/Chiron in 5th house looks more challenging than Saturn/DSC though... He might be slow cause he might be very insecure about his emotional world (Leo Mars/Chiron in 5th house). This is a very sensitive area for him, your Jupiter looks supportive, but the Pluto square is dangerous to his sensitiveness and might trigger some subconscious fear/wound of his...
May I see a Composite chart ?

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Thank you for the answer Stoika!
sure! here it is!

posted April 30, 2019 08:28 PM            

aahhhh ,he is extremely independent and unreliable. he seems to be quite innovative with new ideas and plans but most often his focus is diffuse and doesn't completely things he started. as a romantic chart he is not in to fidelity.

Saturn opposed to chiron indicates he wants everything his way and though he might seem malleable ,he is quite set in his ways.
there is a favorable mental connection and you share similar ideas on many things.
but this is not enough to build a relationship on.

with the venus/mars midpoint opposed to the Uranus/node midpoint .,there is likely spontaneous attraction with a lot of electricity . it would be a fun and sweaty time but it is the stuff of affairs are made of.

posted April 30, 2019 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by melinazonk:

Thank you for the answer Stoika!
sure! here it is!

probably your're right, also I know aqua moons have some troubles with emotions in general...
On the composite i see moon conjunct uranus and neptune, that he also has in his birth chart (and i have moon conj uranus in mine). i read neptune and uranus in 7th aren't ideal but... i also know that picking one aspect individually doesn't describe the relationship itself.
and, above all, i'm not in a relationship with this guy, even if i'd love to lol

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posted May 01, 2019 12:38 AM            

I don’t know him well, but enough to understand he doesn’t seem very reliable :/

And intuitively I smelled the infidelity issue.
AND, most of all, my tastes in men are awful lol
What a pity. I hope the Saturn return will help me with this!

posted May 01, 2019 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
one will not get the exact same aspects for any quality in the composite and the natals/ synastry. one will finds different aspects(usually) that have the same affects unless both persons have the exact same aspect.

you underestimate the maliciousness of chiron opposed to Saturn in the composite. this is by itself can be the most destructive Saturn aspect to have in a composite.

todd

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posted May 01, 2019 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by melinazonk:
Maybe because I have it in the Natal chart and so does he and many other people I liked did, I thought it was a generational aspect. In fact I saw it in almost all composites I looked for. But talking like this you make me wonder if I ever could have healthy relationships with my peers 😅 I have a quite strong Chiron in the birth chart, I don’t know if this counts in any way. I think I should study Chiron.
So Should I run away from anyone with Chiron opposite Saturn?

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Your natal Saturn opposite Chiron gives you shyness, seriousness, uncomfortable feelings about being in groups and social environment, you might feel like an "outsider" sometimes, not being able to express spontaneus feelings and might prefer loneliness and "seriousness"... this aspect involving your natal 5th and 11th house is a little hard in relationships cause of this "restricted" nature of the emotional world. I don't think you should stay necessarily away from anyone with that same aspect, it might just be a little hard to open up yourself, to let yourself go and be spontaneous, as much as it is for the other person with same aspect. Things might feel like not working out.
In the Composite, this aspect is harsh cause it can trigger deep issues and uncomfortable feelings about the relationship itself, bringing guilty feelings, resentment, heartbreak... since Comp. Saturn is in Aquarius 8th house, it requires a lot of responsibility towards each others but opposite to Chiron it looks like selfishness and ego issues challenging the Chiron energy, which in second house/Leo is about self-worth.
It can be malicious as Todd said, I think depending on the people and the circumstances involved... In this case I think that Comp. Mars opposition to the seventh house planets might make the whole picture worse though.
Even though, I generally think that any bad aspect always depends from "how you deal" with it, what energies you can focus more on in a positive way and make it work out, and what energies you have to get aware of and have to be kept under control, related to your real situation... just my own opinion :-)

posted May 02, 2019 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Your natal Saturn opposite Chiron gives you shyness, seriousness, uncomfortable feelings about being in groups and social environment, you might feel like an "outsider" sometimes, not being able to express spontaneus feelings and might prefer loneliness and "seriousness"... this aspect involving your natal 5th and 11th house is a little hard in relationships cause of this "restricted" nature of the emotional world. I don't think you should stay necessarily away from anyone with that same aspect, it might just be a little hard to open up yourself, to let yourself go and be spontaneous, as much as it is for the other person with same aspect. Things might feel like not working out.
In the Composite, this aspect is harsh cause it can trigger deep issues and uncomfortable feelings about the relationship itself, bringing guilty feelings, resentment, heartbreak... since Comp. Saturn is in Aquarius 8th house, it requires a lot of responsibility towards each others but opposite to Chiron it looks like selfishness and ego issues challenging the Chiron energy, which in second house/Leo is about self-worth.
It can be malicious as Todd said, I think depending on the people and the circumstances involved... In this case I think that Comp. Mars opposition to the seventh house planets might make the whole picture worse though.
Even though, I generally think that any bad aspect always depends from "how you deal" with it, what energies you can focus more on in a positive way and make it work out, and what energies you have to get aware of and have to be kept under control, related to your real situation... just my own opinion :-)

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posted May 02, 2019 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
you are correct in that if both people have the same hard aspect,here Saturn to chiron, then there is a possibly of a successful relationship because both have worked out the ramification of the problematic aspect

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posted May 02, 2019 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Todd, I agree!
Can I ask you what aspect points to the "infidelity" trait? I wasn't able to see this...

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posted May 02, 2019 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
mars in hard aspects to Neptune, in romantic composites, invariably shows he is a player .
here with Uranus opposed to mars also ,this conclusion is more adamant because Uranus shows he is a very independent guy and will not likely make any commitment. with Neptune the guy usually is sneaky about his proclivities but usually the Uranus guy will more up front about his interest in multiples.
Neptune canalso indicate a involvement with alcoholor other substances. venus also follows this pattern for women,though not as often.
mars/venus/Neptune tsquare is often a couple that met in a social/partying environment and were not looking for a serious hookup. alcohol is usually a major element of these patterned relationships and infidelity can be a moot point in the beginning as both are in it for a good time.
todd

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