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Stoika7
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posted May 09, 2019 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Todd, I'd love to hear your insight on this.

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posted May 09, 2019 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stoika7, I hope you're well! Anything todd will be able to say will be much much clearer and in depth, but I wanted to drop a note to say that I really like the synastry, and especially the composite. I am not sure whether the composite would be in full action without an agreed upon relationship, but I'm actually not bothered by the Saturn squares. I personally do... not necessarily like Saturn hard aspects, but I think they're invaluable and necessary. I also liked the equal dissemination to the 11th and the 5th. They are both creatively charged houses in different ways, and both relate to our debt to ourselves and close associations, and our ability to realize our personal creative goals and larger hopes and wishes. I think this could be a very lovely relationship would it find opportunity to spring from its seed.

I was intrigued by two things in the synastry.

First, the Neptune situation, with your Neptune opposing his Venus, and then his Neptune inconjunct your Moon. I wonder if these could potentially be muddling your view of each other. You would know best whether the amount or closeness of your past or current contact would warrant your lack of clarity about how he feels about you - do you think there may be a sort of on and off dynamic of idealization, or lack of ability to see one another clearly? I know from experience that inconjunct is a completely weird aspect. Astrologer Jewel Mayberry has a wonderful description of the inconjunct as a slowly building feeling of the stomach flu when we are asleep. You know, that queasy feeling that we become aware of more and more. To me, the inconjunct has always felt like that - sometimes it's exciting and pays off when you make necessary arrangements to how you approach the respective energies, sometimes it just doesn't work whatever you do and you sit down like a complete idiot thinking what the hell was that particular dynamic about. And you never ever ever guess which facet of inconjunct you are ever going to get. It's one of those really strange "oh, now I think I was able to imagine a plane where I could see you" versus "I see you but this feels weird and unsafe - I want to go". Especially with Neptune thrown in with Venus and Moon, I wonder if he senses the depth of your feelings and is at a loss how to deal with it.

The other thing is, if an equal footing is difficult to achieve or has not yet been achieved, 8th house contacts in synastry can be super strange. It can give a complete fright to the house person if they are not ready for that sense of proximity. I've had a relatively short relationship where we had absolutely bomb synastry with a guy, and I later found out -after we broke up- that he had a stellium falling into my 8th house. This later revealed such a core defining quality of the relationship to me. One of the reasons why I never felt comfortable with him was -aside from his rather astringent personality- the feeling that he was always trying to invade me in some secretive way. He was so insistent on the strength of his feelings and I could see he agonized over this, but it somehow felt unclear or murky to me. Hard to explain. This quietly destabilizing feeling continued although we had great intellectual rapport and talked for hours every day. This is going to be a quite strange description, but although he was completely straightforward on the outside, it was like he was trying to control an unconscious part of me, as if he was whispering some weird and menacing incantations to me in a language I did not understand when I was asleep... That sort of weird feeling, you know? Where you have a feeling someone is trying to get a hold of you in an under the table sort of manner. I never could trust him although I had zero reason not to. Long story short, and sorry for making this unnecessarily flowery, I believe 8th house contacts in synastry, although both people may be plutonic in nature, can scare both parties in different ways. Unlike the composite 8th house which denotes a common language of merging, I feel that 8th house synastry may also contribute to a feeling of unequal windows to one another if we don't get a chance to really have equal footing. I do not know anything about your dynamic, so sorry if any of this sounds assuming to you.

Astrology aside, I believe in the value of attempting to seek clarity in these situations, and I wonder if you may be able to work up to reach out to him in a thoughtful, measured manner and seek more understanding, transparency, or closure.

In the meantime, I would like to extend my sympathy to you as I full well know what being prone to obsessions is like, and how it's able to completely envelope one. But we do manage to reach the other side through constant questioning and honesty.

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posted May 09, 2019 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Stoika7

I think htat the pliuto opposition to the sun in the composite is aspect most responsible for your obsession with the relationship.

with vneus opposed to juptier the emotional bonding for a serious relationship is present but saturn is square to the venus/Jupiter opposition showing him to be removed from these feelings, where as the moon is trine he sun and sextile to pluto/eva and trine to Neptune, which shows you feelings of a more spiritual connection in addition to the obsessive feelings with eva conjunct to pluto.

the mercury/Uranus midpoint is conjunct to telephus which correlates with the astral/psychic connection you have.

in addition the moon is square to psyche and square to the vertex with the Uranus/anton midpoint conjunct the vertex.
this pattern suggest you intense psychic connection along with the otherworldly/spiritual emotional connection with him.

you might use h13 for the true Lilith as this might make james opposed to Lilith

London/Julia is also interesting, does Julia live in London?

also does he go by anthony or james.the position of Anthony would suggest that is the primary name he uses or that you know him as.
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posted May 09, 2019 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Hi Stoika7, I hope you're well! Anything todd will be able to say will be much much clearer and in depth, but I wanted to drop a note to say that I really like the synastry, and especially the composite. I am not sure whether the composite would be in full action without an agreed upon relationship, but I'm actually not bothered by the Saturn squares. I personally do... not necessarily like Saturn hard aspects, but I think they're invaluable and necessary. I also liked the equal dissemination to the 11th and the 5th. They are both creatively charged houses in different ways, and both relate to our debt to ourselves and close associations, and our ability to realize our personal creative goals and larger hopes and wishes. I think this could be a very lovely relationship would it find opportunity to spring from its seed.

Hi HieronymusTush!
Thanks so much for your insight! You are totally spot on here. My involvement with this person started exactly through a creative project, and he has been creatively inspiring me since the beginning. So this creative and motivational aspect is very strong, I didn't mention it cause the post was too long... fact is that we share a lot on this level and I'd ardently wish we could share our creative/artistic life in a stable way...

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First, the Neptune situation, with your Neptune opposing his Venus, and then his Neptune inconjunct your Moon. I wonder if these could potentially be muddling your view of each other. You would know best whether the amount or closeness of your past or current contact would warrant your lack of clarity about how he feels about you - do you think there may be a sort of on and off dynamic of idealization, or lack of ability to see one another clearly? I know from experience that inconjunct is a completely weird aspect. Astrologer Jewel Mayberry has a wonderful description of the inconjunct as a slowly building feeling of the stomach flu when we are asleep. You know, that queasy feeling that we become aware of more and more. To me, the inconjunct has always felt like that - sometimes it's exciting and pays off when you make necessary arrangements to how you approach the respective energies, sometimes it just doesn't work whatever you do and you sit down like a complete idiot thinking what the hell was that particular dynamic about. And you never ever ever guess which facet of inconjunct you are ever going to get. It's one of those really strange "oh, now I think I was able to imagine a plane where I could see you" versus "I see you but this feels weird and unsafe - I want to go". Especially with Neptune thrown in with Venus and Moon, I wonder if he senses the depth of your feelings and is at a loss how to deal with it.

This is such a great insight as well! I know absolutely nothing about inconjunct aspects so thank you so much for enlightening me about his. I think this aspect is more about him, not me. I have a very clear idea of him, even too much. I know a lot of things about him, also through common friends. But I mainly feel like I deeply know him since ages. I always had the feeling I looked very familiar to him as well, but this is just my own perception... at the same time, I feel that he doesn't have a clear idea of me and that he kept wondering... I've been wondering whether/why he could have been scared by me or by our weird connection likely for not being able to understand it. I never had the grit to openly tell him about the telepathic connection I was experiencing with him, but deep inside I think it's impossible he doesn't feel it, cause he actually "talked" to me, through his mind, and then I found out that what he had weirdly transmitted to me about himself, his thoughts or facts occurring in his life were true... I was shocked any time this happened, cause I am not able to find a logical explanation, but this is what has been drawing me towards him more and more, while maybe this is what he has been escaping from... so I guess this aspect you have caught is true.

About the 8th house contact, I have not been invasive in any way with him and the contacts between us ('cept for the "telepathic" ones) were always about this creative project we shared.
I never showed him how I really feel about him, cause he has a girlfriend and I would never dare to interfere...

For me, I think the 8th house is what is keeping him in my mind and the powerful intimate feelings I have for him... I wonder how he's affected by these placements, since the 8th house overlays are mutual... Since my Sun/Venus/ASC fall on his 8th trine his Moon on my 8th, I would look at this as a strong romantic love aspect, not one where one of the two escapes... but I hadn't considered the Neptune inconjunct aspect you have mentioned which makes sense and might explain such unclear dynamics......

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The other thing is, if an equal footing is difficult to achieve or has not yet been achieved, 8th house contacts in synastry can be super strange. It can give a complete fright to the house person if they are not ready for that sense of proximity.

...so this above might definitely explain how the 8th house/Pluto aspects work for him. Your whole explanation on this and your experience was so helpful <3

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Astrology aside, I believe in the value of attempting to seek clarity in these situations, and I wonder if you may be able to work up to reach out to him in a thoughtful, measured manner and seek more understanding, transparency, or closure.

In the meantime, I would like to extend my sympathy to you as I full well know what being prone to obsessions is like, and how it's able to completely envelope one. But we do manage to reach the other side through constant questioning and honesty.


I completely agree! The fact is that I actually wish badly to find some clarity about all this! But I could only find out the real meaning of this all if I could meet and talk in person, since he has no longer replied to my messages and I have no clue about when I'll be able to meet him again... I wouldn't dare to write him about my feelings or about our weird telepathic connection, I believe he would see me like a weirdo, a stalker or so... or in case he feels the connection, he might be even more scared of me :-( I think that meeting in person would be different and it would be easier for me to feel more comfortable and understand how he might feel... still, since he's in a r/s, it wouln't be that easy though...
Thank you so much for sharing. Actually, right at the moment I feel more heartbroken than obsessed, I feel I'm seriously in love and unable to move on, since I deep inside I seem not able to give up the hope something will happen...

Big thank you for your lovely helpful take on this <3

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posted May 09, 2019 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, thank you so much Todd for your great insight, highly appreciated!


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hi Stoika7

I think htat the pliuto opposition to the sun in the composite is aspect most responsible for your obsession with the relationship.


Wouldn't this apply to him as well?


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with vneus opposed to juptier the emotional bonding for a serious relationship is present but saturn is square to the venus/Jupiter opposition showing him to be removed from these feelings,

The fact the he's removed from these feelings is likely true, since he's very involved with this other woman at this moment... but does this aspect point only about his feelings, or might be about actual obstacles to a potential relationship, such as physical distance, or he being in another r/s ...?
and if so, does this definitely mean "impossible love"? For instance, in our progressed composite, at the moment and for the years ahead, those squares are no longer there 'cept for Saturn/Jupiter, prog. NN is conjunct Sun and our progressed Moons are conjunct...

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where as the moon is trine he sun and sextile to pluto/eva and trine to Neptune, which shows you feelings of a more spiritual connection in addition to the obsessive feelings with eva conjunct to pluto.

Thank you for explaining this! Actually, it is very weird... I feel such connection is more metaphysical than spiritual, in a "jungian" way. I never experienced anything like this, and I feel it's a poweful energy going beyond my will/wish/control....

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the mercury/Uranus midpoint is conjunct to telephus which correlates with the astral/psychic connection you have.

in addition the moon is square to psyche and square to the vertex with the Uranus/anton midpoint conjunct the vertex.
this pattern suggest you intense psychic connection along with the otherworldly/spiritual emotional connection with him.


Wow... this is amazing!

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you might use h13 for the true Lilith as this might make james opposed to Lilith

I did, it doesn't. what does this mean?

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London/Julia is also interesting, does Julia live in London?

Weird!! The "real" Julia doesn't live in London, so I can't find a meaning for this.
BUT...
I say the "real" Julia cause "Julia" is also the main character of a novel I wrote/published *before* knowing a real Julia existed in his life, and Antonio is the main male character in the same novel, whose name I gave him *before* ever meeting James. I found out that James' second name was Anthony only later, after I had published the book. And these are only two of several weird coincidences/synchronicities happened between us... so, in such perspective, I have no clue either of what that aspect might mean but it's intriguing!

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also does he go by anthony or james.the position of Anthony would suggest that is the primary name he uses or that you know him as.
todd

This is amazing, again! No, he doesn't use that name but I had started to write my novel with the Antonio character *before* meeting James... the fact though is that as soon as I met James, I "recognized" him as being "Antonio" exactly like I had pictured the character in my mind... so, weirdly, "I knew him as being Antonio" before even knowing his second name was Anthony (!).

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posted May 10, 2019 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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London/Julia is also interesting, does Julia live in London?

Sorry, I just realized that Julia was actually in London when she introduced me to James :-)
So this might literally point to Julia being the link between us, in London... does it makes sense?


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posted May 10, 2019 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you might use h13 for the true Lilith as this might make james opposed to Lilith

I did, it doesn't. what does this mean?

the symbol in the composite is for the mean Lilith not true Lilith h13.

james opposed to Lilith indicates that your feeling for him arise from the "depth" of your undifferentiated emotional sensitivity. there is no conscious reasons that he affects as he does .

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posted May 10, 2019 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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the symbol in the composite is for the mean Lilith not true Lilith h13.

james opposed to Lilith indicates that your feeling for him arise from the "depth" of your undifferentiated emotional sensitivity. there is no conscious reasons that he affects as he does .

todd


I meant that I pulled the true lilith 13h out after you suggested so, and it turned out mean lilith is not opposite to James.
So, how does this play out?

Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by "there is no conscious reasons that he affects as he does"... do you mean that I'm not aware of the reasons he affects me so much or that his impact on me is even bigger than I'm aware of?


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posted May 10, 2019 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stoika, just curious, is this the guy you told me about that you never truly healed from?

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posted May 10, 2019 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika, just curious, is this the guy you told me about that you never truly healed from?

No, he's not! That one was a real (nightmare) longtime relationship and he had severe alcohol and drugs addictions, fortuntaley it ended 18 years ago :-)
I've healed since I could luckily detach from him and I've learnt a lot through that experience, I didn't heal cause somehow I keep a scar inside which made me hard to fall in love again for many years.... <3

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posted May 10, 2019 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I meant that I pulled the true lilith 13h out after you suggested so, and it turned out mean lilith is not opposite to James.
So, how does this play out?

Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by "there is no conscious reasons that he affects as he does"... do you mean that I'm not aware of the reasons he affects me so much or that his impact on me is even bigger than I'm aware of?


lilth is emotional sensitivity but below ones conscious perception. lilth is the "material" that all emotional feelings and rhythms are made up of.so Lilith conjunctions are feelings/perceptions that just arise spontaneously .

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posted May 10, 2019 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lilth is emotional sensitivity but below ones conscious perception. lilth is the "material" that all emotional feelings and rhythms are made up of.so Lilith conjunctions are feelings/perceptions that just arise spontaneously .

Thanks so much Todd :-) I don't know why in another synastry on astro-seek it turned out that his NN is conjunct my Lilith and my NN is trine to his Lilith... And so it showed that Composite NN is trine to Lilith. I have wondered what this aspect means, I assumed that such deep unconscious feelings are motivational and inspirational for each other (potentially).

On the Composite James/Lilith connection though, it seems there's no actual opposition, even though they look close to be opposite...

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posted May 11, 2019 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, he's not! That one was a real (nightmare) longtime relationship and he had severe alcohol and drugs addictions, fortuntaley it ended 18 years ago :-)
I've healed since I could luckily detach from him and I've learnt a lot through that experience, I didn't heal cause somehow I keep a scar inside which made me hard to fall in love again for many years.... <3


Ah ok! Somehow I thought it was the other one. Those scars can run deep 💕

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posted May 11, 2019 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ah ok! Somehow I thought it was the other one. Those scars can run deep 💕

Thank you for sharing 💕
Fact is that I finally fell in love again, and it's unattainable :-(


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posted May 11, 2019 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you for sharing 💕
Fact is that I finally fell in love again, and it's unattainable :-(


Oh love I’m so sorry. To finally be able to open your heart and then for it to be unattainable...I feel you. I know what it’s like.
What’s your progressed composite doing?

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posted May 11, 2019 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh love I’m so sorry. To finally be able to open your heart and then for it to be unattainable...I feel you. I know what it’s like.
What’s your progressed composite doing?

Prog. composite looks pretty good. No Saturn square to the stellium, nor Jupiter oppositions but trine to Venus, Venus conjunct Mars, Moon and NN conjunct Sun... our natal prog. Moons are conjunct for few years, and progressed Moon will be conjunct to prog Sun in few years... don't know what to think about it!

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Prog. composite looks pretty good. No Saturn square to the stellium, nor Jupiter oppositions but trine to Venus, Venus conjunct Mars, Moon and NN conjunct Sun... our natal prog. Moons are conjunct for few years, and progressed Moon will be conjunct to prog Sun in few years... don't know what to think about it!

I mean, that all sounds so positive to me! And you have that love stellium in the composite, along with moon/Pluto, Venus/ Pluto although it’s an opposition. Going to feel that pretty strongly.
Is there anyone else involved with him?

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posted May 12, 2019 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I mean, that all sounds so positive to me! And you have that love stellium in the composite, along with moon/Pluto, Venus/ Pluto although it’s an opposition. Going to feel that pretty strongly.
Is there anyone else involved with him?

Yes, he has a gf since three years, that is why I'm hopeless... they seem to get along pretty well and he looks happy with her. I wish I was able to move on and I tried, but what I feel never really changed, it's weird, I feel like I could love him for ever no matter what :-(

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Yes, he has a gf since three years, that is why I'm hopeless... they seem to get along pretty well and he looks happy with her. I wish I was able to move on and I tried, but what I feel never really changed, it's weird, I feel like I could love him for ever no matter what :-(


Oh girl I’ve been here before. I was obsessed with someone for 2 years and he had a gf. It was so heartbreaking. But then somehow it just dissipated, at the same time as my pMoon moved into aqua where I didn’t let things get to me as much lol.
But listen, what’s jumping out at me is his sun/Venus opposing your Neptune. Is the sun still within that orb? It looks like it might be. This may be clouding your judgment of him and putting him on a pedestal perhaps? I had his mars opposing my Neptune so I was all rose coloured glasses. Just be weary of this.
I know a conversation with him would really help clear this up for you, about his feelings. So put it out into the universe, pray or whatever works for you...and it will happen. I know this obsession is so tough love, I get it. But something will surely come to light for your highest good 🙏💕🌸

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posted May 12, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh girl I’ve been here before. I was obsessed with someone for 2 years and he had a gf. It was so heartbreaking. But then somehow it just dissipated, at the same time as my pMoon moved into aqua where I didn’t let things get to me as much lol.
But listen, what’s jumping out at me is his sun/Venus opposing your Neptune. Is the sun still within that orb? It looks like it might be. This may be clouding your judgment of him and putting him on a pedestal perhaps? I had his mars opposing my Neptune so I was all rose coloured glasses. Just be weary of this.
I know a conversation with him would really help clear this up for you, about his feelings. So put it out into the universe, pray or whatever works for you...and it will happen. I know this obsession is so tough love, I get it. But something will surely come to light for your highest good 🙏💕🌸

Thank you lovely!💕
yeah, I'm aware of the Neptune opposition, and I certainly put him on a pedestal, even though at the same time I'm not completely blind and I can see his flaws and things I don't like of him... it's just, you know, that feeling that he's the "one"? It happened only twice in my life. I'd wish so much I could have a conversation, but he doens't reply to my messages and lives far away, so I wouldn't really know how to do right at this moment, I'm waiting for a chance for this to happen...

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Thank you lovely!💕
yeah, I'm aware of the Neptune opposition, and I certainly put him on a pedestal, even though at the same time I'm not completely blind and I can see his flaws and things I don't like of him... it's just, you know, that feeling that he's the "one"? It happened only twice in my life. I'd wish so much I could have a conversation, but he doens't reply to my messages and lives far away, so I wouldn't really know how to do right at this moment, I'm waiting for a chance for this to happen...


I know that feeling of “he’s the one”. You just can’t shake it Let’s say you did write to him and expressed your feelings. What would you have to lose? This would be for your sake, not his, for the sake of getting it all off your chest. Or writing everything down and not even sending it to him 🤷🏻‍♀️
What happened when he started ghosting you? What was said between you?

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posted May 12, 2019 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know that feeling of “he’s the one”. You just can’t shake it Let’s say you did write to him and expressed your feelings. What would you have to lose? This would be for your sake, not his, for the sake of getting it all off your chest. Or writing everything down and not even sending it to him 🤷🏻‍♀️
What happened when he started ghosting you? What was said between you?


Nothing happened at all. I know that he's quite faithful to his gf, and kind of reserved... then he's british, you know what I mean? lol! while I'm italian, all the opposite, I become friendly easily while this might look somehow invasive to him... this is why I don't feel at all to open up about my feelings, I don't want to waste future chances getting definitely ghosted by him ...well, if he hadn't a girfriend it would be different, I would definitely find a way to get closer.

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Nothing happened at all. I know that he's quite faithful to his gf, and kind of reserved... then he's british, you know what I mean? lol! while I'm italian, all the opposite, I become friendly easily while this might look somehow invasive to him... this is why I don't feel at all to open up about my feelings, I don't want to waste future chances getting definitely ghosted by him ...well, if he hadn't a girfriend it would be different, I would definitely find a way to get closer.

I’m Italian too so I get you! We are a very passionate culture. The English on the other hand....lol I get it. This heartbreak of mine is Irish. A lot more reserved.
The GF factor must be so frustrating for you gurl! I hope you somehow find some comfort through all this. Praying for you 💛

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Originally posted by EmGem:
I’m Italian too so I get you! We are a very passionate culture. The English on the other hand....lol I get it. This heartbreak of mine is Irish. A lot more reserved.
The GF factor must be so frustrating for you gurl! I hope you somehow find some comfort through all this. Praying for you 💛

Wow, non ci posso credere, ahaha, but you know, somehow I had the feeling you were italian too?? So you understand what I mean, lol
Actually he's even much "warmer" than the average british, but still british, lol
Grazie darling!

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Wow, non ci posso credere, ahaha, but you know, somehow I had the feeling you were italian too?? So you understand what I mean, lol
Actually he's even much "warmer" than the average british, but still british, lol
Grazie darling!


Probably likes to drink his English Breakfast tea 🤣
Prego Bella! 💗

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