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Topic: Calling @aqualilith @luna @Stolka any other knowflakes!
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abrightfutureahead
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From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 20, 2019 11:01 AM
  
Hello guys,
I’ve entered into a new connection and our charts look very interesting. I need some help! Please have a look over.My natals, synastry, composite and Davison are posted below titled, mutual competition of eachothers tsquares, Davison please help and Todd dear friend. Please would really appreciate some more input x IP: Logged |
Bismarck2
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posted May 20, 2019 02:12 PM
I see nothing. IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead
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From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 20, 2019 05:35 PM
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abrightfutureahead
Knowflake Posts: 346
From: kent uk
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posted May 20, 2019 05:37 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/009065.html Here’s our charts on this link. Thank you ☺️ IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted May 20, 2019 06:02 PM
Hey 😊 sure I’ll have a look soon and should get back to you by tonight IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted May 20, 2019 06:13 PM
Super one sided connection, you’re the only who is super into him not really vice versa (if his TOB is accurate). Honestly I don’t see him having romantic feelings for you, you don’t match any of his relationship houses or his venus enough. Yeah his 5th house is libra and you’re a libra moon, but his ruler Venus in Scorpio isn’t really aspected (nor do you have any strong Scorpio or Pluto) and your moon falls in his 4th not the 5th. You have no cap planets and that’s super
important because his 7th and 8th house are Capricorn not to mention Saturn is in cap and conjunct his DSC too! And the ruler is in the 6th house, you have no Virgo.... no pisces or aqua planets either (Saturn conjunct Uranus and Neptune).
In sorry but I just don’t think he’s going to be that into you. Especially in the long term or to actually want to commit to you. And with most of your planets falling in his 12th house shows you’re not seeing him clearly....IP: Logged |
todd
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posted May 20, 2019 07:02 PM
the mars/venus square gives astrong emotional tensionand the midpointis square to urnaus which shows there is a hot and electric emotional/sexual attraction.sun with the node adds a magic and with pallas conjunct the north node and juno/moon conjunct the south node it does seem that brightfuture is really into with the hope of a serious development. I agree he seems to be a bit more subdued with Neptune conjunct to Saturn.especially as Saturn/Neptune is opposed to the juno/Jupiter midpoint. but it certainly is a hot hookup that likely won't develop into a serous relationship. todd IP: Logged |
Stoika7
Knowflake Posts: 331
From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted May 21, 2019 12:16 AM
Hi abrightfutureahead,
I agree with Todd. He might be attracted to you, but I see emotional conflict in both synastry and composite. It especially might turn out painful for you, with his Saturn/Uranus square to your Moon/opposite your Chiron/Mars, and Composite Uranus in 7th opposite Chiron. I don't think it's doomed, whether a r/s is established. It might have challenges though. From both your natals, it's true you share similar patterns and similar issues, more than mutual completion I see you might see yourself refected into the other and you might feel to strongly share a familiar path, while you might actually have different emotional needs, expectations and directions. Still, there is a clear karmic bond here coming from the past, with Composite Sun/NN in Piesces trine Chiron and opposite to the chart ruler Mercury and Moon in 4th house. The fact that he has shown up again in your life at this time must have a meaning. Chiron in first house/Cancer, as the identity of the relationship, is sextile to the chart ruler and Moon in 4th house (the Cancer house), so this points to the fact that he's someone very familiar to you (you look familiar and intimate to each others) and at the same time it points to your identity "build up" and history. basically it tells me this all is not by chance. Composite Sun/NN in Piesces is sextile to Uranus in 7th house which is trine to Mercury (the Comp. chart ruler). It looks like this relationship, even though it might not last or not playing out as you would expect, it might announce a new chapter in your life, like a "transition" or a new awareness about your deepest emotional past and future direction. IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead
Knowflake Posts: 346
From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 24, 2019 03:45 PM
Thank you guys. Feeling a bit disheartened now after your interpretations, especially as I got a few last week who’ve said they see some marriage potential with the composite. Luna, I’m suprised you feel this is a onesided connection. He seems a whole more invested than me and I am telling him I’m not ready to commit yet but he’s said he’s already mine and he’s not letting me go. Sag charm maybe - eeek I hope not 🙈
My saturn, uranus and Neptune are in Capricorn, as well as my MC. It’s also one of my most aspected planets so I feel it is a strong energy in my chart.
We also have saturn conjunct the DC in our synastry; as well as Conjunct Neptune and sextile his Neptune. and double whammy saturn conjunct Chiron. It is biquintile the sun and sextile node. Our Pluto’s are conjunct, I know it’s age related but in Scorpio and the mars trine Pluto and Venus Conjunct Pluto helps towards wanting commitment. Also tightly sextile saturn.
I think my moon falling into his 4th is even more important as he’s a cancer moon and his moon also falls into my 4th, which makes it also fall into the 4th house in the composite and The moon is tightly Conjunct the IC in both synastry and composite. We really feel at home with eachother and a sense of belonging.
Also the double whammy sun/moon sextiles and double whammy Venus/mars energies no doubt go a long way. Most important thing that stands out to me is we are eachothers missing leg, and all our charts have a strong grand pattern going on. Grand cross in synastry with natal t squares and golden rectangle in both composite and Davison. Not only that but we are eachothers missing Element, I lack fire, he has abundance, he lacks air, im plenty airy!
Besides astrology I’ve finally met someone who shares the same mental disorder as me, we both have severe adult adhd and are medicated. It’s so nice having someone who understands and accepts the spaz in me! Thank you for your reply all the same and I’ll keep you updated.!
Stolka,
Interesting, Todd mentioned in another thread he could see some possible marriage potential, but you are right, we share some karmic bond and when we first kissed and cuddled he said I’m sure we have done this before it feels so familiar and right. He’s offered me commitment and that he’s already falling in love me.!
We both have a real mix of energies, our mars/mars and Venus/Venus and sun/sun moon/moon are completely incompatible, but our sun/moon double whammy, Venus/mars double whammy and other complimentaries I feel we bring all the energy which the other lacks. Keep an update for you all to encourage your craft! I hope it isn’t A one sided affair I’ve already fallen for him.! IP: Logged |
Stoika7
Knowflake Posts: 331
From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted May 24, 2019 10:15 PM
abrightfutureahead, I agree with you about the intimacy and familiar bond you feel seen from those aspects, the completion you talk about though could be a mirroring, i.e. you see in him what you're lacking yourself, but while you might share the issue and feel you've found someone who completely understands you, his issues might become a psychological burden to you more than a real support... look at the synastry, your Chirons are conjunct in Cancer so you both share a wound linked to a familiar environment. you have Chiron in 2nd house (self-worth) but it is conjunct your Mars and trine your NN in Piesces and Pluto, this means you are aware of your issue and are motivated to face it even though this affects you emotionally (your natal Chiron/Mars square Moon), your natal Moon though is trine your Taurus Sun in first house and ASC, this means you have found your own inner balance and self-reliance, your identity is "stable". His wound (Chiron in 12th house conjunct ASC opposite Saturn) is deeper than yours and mainly unresolved. His Chiron is square to Mars in Aries, he might have deep insecurity that can be expressed in lack of anger control and an obsessive pattern about control, since his Pluto/Venus in Scorpio 5th house is square to his Cancer Moon 2nd house, so he can be emotionally very intense but also unpredictable. So in your synastry your Chirons are conjunct, entangled with your Mars and his ASC, which are the core aspects of your "wounds", and this can give you that deep, intense intimate familiar feeling and bond, but both your Neptune/Saturn/Uranus are opposed to it, forming a Grand Cross involving your Moon and his Mars. This means that in the long term if you're not careful in that "merging" temptation, his issues might become a painful burden to you. Your bond risks to be completely about your past inner wounds. In Composite, Chiron shows the "identity" of the relationship cause it's in 1st house, it is trine to the Composite chart ruler Mercury that is opposite Sun/NN, while Neptune/Saturn in 8th house opposite Chiron, and Uranus in seven house again opposite Chiron. The fourth house (Moon, Venus, Mercury, SN) is sextile to Chiron but forming two t-squares against Jupiter, Mars and Sun/NN, the other one with Mars opposite Pluto. This all might become very intense and binding, at the same time it is quite dramatic cause it might trigger all your wounds and create a co-dependance based on those instead of supporting each others in a balanced way. This looks very karmic and a challenge about your self-awareness and self-worth, despite the fact that at this time you might find it all quite fulfilling, and it probably is, but it looks like a kind of love that mainly "reflects" your need of a comfort zone coming from an unresolved past, and it all might require to stay grounded and clear-minded. Moreover, there is Composite Lilith in 5th house square to Chiron and to Uranus in 7th, while composite Pluto and Mars square Venus... you might not be completely aware of the subconscious reasons your mutual attraction is about, you should be careful to keep the relationship on an honest level and protect your own independence to avoid the risk of subtle psychological games/manipulation and delusion. That said, since the chart ruler is mercury conjunct SN trine to Saturn in Capricorn sextile Sun/NN, if you both can really deeply understand each others without mistaking the other's need with your own, this can become a bond of mutual support and "healing". As I said, Uranus looks exciting and it rules the Composite Sun in Aquarius, so this might actually suggest to keep things emotionally free from the Chiron opposite Saturn burden, or that this is a transitional experience serving you as "setting you free" from such burden of yours.IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead
Knowflake Posts: 346
From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 27, 2019 04:43 PM
Wow thank you Stolka,
Your post definitely struck a chord with me. We are both feeling it also, the familiarity. He said to me last night he swears he’s caught amnesia and just forgot we was lovers before, and txt me today to say now he’s left he misses me like it feels like we are already married. There seems to be a theme going on already in the month we have been speaking. The bringing up of the past wounds of our childhood experiences which does feel that it is binding us, but yet, the memories I am sharing with him, it’s like he’s triggered them in me, because I’m talking about past pain that I hadn’t thought about in years. It kind of scares me because I’ve buried a lot of stuff deep in my subconscious, but the fact we was in high school together and the family link that we share he keeps reminding me of things that have happened. Hopefully this won’t end up painful for me and will be a healing experience. This is not a superficial relationship to me by any means, which is rare for me.
I get intensely attracted to a man I start to have a romantic relationship with, but it’s more “oh he’s so handsome” or “he’s interesting to talk to, he makes me laugh” kind of thing.
This is a lot deeper than that. I wish to give him my heart and soul and merge with him as you mentioned, I can also see what your saying that he could be a burden on me, if he relies on me too much to be his everything. So I will be careful and try to take things slow, I have yet to see this temper of his. But as of this moment, it’s already too late I’m in love ❤️ IP: Logged |
Stoika7
Knowflake Posts: 331
From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted May 27, 2019 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Wow thank you Stolka,
Your post definitely struck a chord with me. We are both feeling it also, the familiarity. He said to me last night he swears he’s caught amnesia and just forgot we was lovers before, and txt me today to say now he’s left he misses me like it feels like we are already married. There seems to be a theme going on already in the month we have been speaking. The bringing up of the past wounds of our childhood experiences which does feel that it is binding us, but yet, the memories I am sharing with him, it’s like he’s triggered them in me, because I’m talking about past pain that I hadn’t thought about in years. It kind of scares me because I’ve buried a lot of stuff deep in my subconscious, but the fact we was in high school together and the family link that we share he keeps reminding me of things that have happened. Hopefully this won’t end up painful for me and will be a healing experience. This is not a superficial relationship to me by any means, which is rare for me.
I get intensely attracted to a man I start to have a romantic relationship with, but it’s more “oh he’s so handsome” or “he’s interesting to talk to, he makes me laugh” kind of thing.
This is a lot deeper than that. I wish to give him my heart and soul and merge with him as you mentioned, I can also see what your saying that he could be a burden on me, if he relies on me too much to be his everything. So I will be careful and try to take things slow, I have yet to see this temper of his. But as of this moment, it’s already too late I’m in love ❤️
Oh it is always wonderful to be in love, and I wish you to find happyness <3
I see what you mean since your Gemini Venus might be more up for an happy-go-lucky relationship :-)) while this one looks pretty intense and psychologically involving... but you also have your natal Venus trine Moon, ASC opposite Pluto and those Moon squares giving you a lot of intense feelings. His Cancer ASC/Chiron in twelve house opposite Neptune with his Sagittarius Sun give him a lot of neptunian personality, his Sun conjunct his Mercury is certainly able to analyse his own issues, even though the neptunian influence might give him a sort of subconscious escapism resulting in a more comfortable way to do so against reality, but he especially seem to find relief from his intense emotional world given by Venus conjunct Pluto in 5th house square Moon and trine Chiron. This can become an obsessive pattern for him, since this is where he seeks for "healing". This is actually not wrong, but his natal Grand Trine formed by Moon, Mars, Sun/Mercury suggests he would need a balance between his psychological/emotional world and a more constructive action to assert himself, for instance through a creative, intellectual fulfilling activity, job, career (Sun/Mercury in 6th house; Mars, NN in 10th house). I mean that such neptunian energy linked to his past issues might need to be expressed more through his own individual self-assertion than through his emotional world as a protection which might keep him "trapped" in the plutonian intensity and the neptunian subconscious "fog".
As I said, this meeting looks to be there for a reason... Composite NN in Piesces trine to Composite Chiron might very well suggest that the purpose of your relationship is to gain self-awareness. It just looks like a complex process where a lot of past wounds are triggered and the Composite Saturn looks like your intense emotional and intellectual bond, with Mercury as the Composite chart ruler in 4th hosue, comes from your shared past and this is mainly your "glue".
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abrightfutureahead
Knowflake Posts: 346
From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 28, 2019 10:35 PM
Oh yes Stolka,
You’re right there. He is most definitely giving me the vibes of neptunian energy with some Pluto in the mix. Mostly Neptune/pisces energy. I’m amazed that after all these years old self study I feel able to pick up on people’s chart rulers or strongest element or two.. he is water/fire for sure, but I worry that those deep feelings for me he’s expressing perhaps he’s like that with every girl I don’t know. 🤷🏻♀️ The neptunian vibes from him are coming out more so as we get to know eachother; the escapism; anxious/worry tendencies. He intrigues me. Such a masculine dominant happy go lucky on the surface (sun sag/mars aries) but then as I get to know him I feel his cancer moon and AC strongly, he’s very nurturing of me and wanting my friendship and connection more so it seems than the lust and passion. There’s plenty of that too but I feel what your saying “he wants to merge”. He has a strange mix of energies im enjoying immensely. He’s super masculine with an overall positive/fun/adventurous attitude, (love that sag/Jupiter in a man) yet he’s got depth and seems pretty emotionally mature. Not afraid to show his feelings at all! I guess his cancer moon is well placed.. I always end up with men who can’t express themselves/have trouble opening up, refreshing! I sensed some Scorpio energy in there straight away also, he’s pretty intense and bar his sag qualities I feel real loyalty in his character. He’s told me he’s not one for casual encounters. The neptunian in Him though, it is a burden for sure. I mean, we both suffer from adhd so have a real understanding of eachother there, but I think Neptune is influencing his life in escapism tendancies (gaming/alcohol/smoking etc 😏  .
He also isn’t working at the moment, and said he knows he needs to get his act together to be the man I deserve.
I’ve made a point in saying that we are still getting to know eachother and that we arnt official yet, I need a grafter who I can build a life with.
He’s said he will prove himself to me but he is already mine, and I am all he needs to make him better. Sounds a bit like codependency already 🤨
He sure is stuck in a neptunian fog as you put it. I hope I am the strength he needs to direct his life and have more ambition and drive, my Taurus energy needs that in a man, someone dependable, hard working/dedicated.
I’m hoping as it’s my moon that is his missing leg I will offer him the emotional support he feels he’s deeply lacking and snap him into facing reality and find a purpose.
I lack fire completely, and very little water that he brings and maybe he needs some of my air/earth to help him think before reacting sometimes and ground him. I sure could do with being less indecisive (damn libra moon) and more emotional intimacy and a deeper connection. He has a whole lot of courage and directness I wish I could have! I feel a balance with us, best friend energy I’ve been waiting for..
I sure am mercury dominant, so require a more lighthearted exchange and lots of communication. Well; I’ve met my match there, someone who can’t stop talking like me! 😋 I put my adhd down to my mercury in Gemini retrograde and moon square uranus, oh, lots of mercury and uranus!
I find intelligence sexy. He’s meeting that so far, plenty of back and forth. We both have sun conjunct mercury in our natals, synastry and then of course composite, I know it’s not that uncommon; but something I find a top requirement is that open communication and friendship. Jealousy, possessiveness and manipulation I spot a mile away in a man as it repulses me! Thats the quickest way to to make my Gemini Venus wish to seek elsewhere thank you! I see he has some strong Plutonian themes going on here; but many strengths and a mixed bag, hopefully I’ll get devoted love and passion, with some romance with all that Neptune and not an obsessive illusionist.
There is a strong tie between us that, if it isn’t from a past life then I strongly believe it will be a future one... I’m rambling but thank you Stolka, really enjoyed your interpretation.
Composite saturn and mercury in the 4th house as well as moon Conjunct the IC double whammy synastry and then the composite I agree with you - it seems like our Glue! Our sun/moon Venus/mars balance like ying/yang.
Perhaps completely different needs and expectations, but a balancing act which feels right and destined to be for both of us.
Part of me thinks - don’t worry about having a job, just get in my dressing gown and never leave 😂 I wouldn’t say I’m naturally a nurturing type who wants to “take care” of a man, (a man who takes care of himself is HOT, bonus if he’s independent and allows me space and freedom.) but with all that cancer energy with him activating my mars, which needs some help 🤦🏻♀️,with his mars being my missing leg, it just seems right, at least, for now. It’s meant to be x IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead
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From: kent uk
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posted May 28, 2019 10:51 PM
Also Stolka, there seems a hell of a lot of Chiron going on in our composite, I wondered if that would occur because our chirons are Conjunct? This happens because we are born not far apart; I know double whammies in the synastry cause the aspect to show up in the composite, I wonder if that is so; and perhaps I shouldn’t put as much emphasis on it.?IP: Logged |
Stoika7
Knowflake Posts: 331
From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted May 29, 2019 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Also Stolka, there seems a hell of a lot of Chiron going on in our composite, I wondered if that would occur because our chirons are Conjunct? This happens because we are born not far apart; I know double whammies in the synastry cause the aspect to show up in the composite, I wonder if that is so; and perhaps I shouldn’t put as much emphasis on it.?
I enjoyed reading you, cause you sound so deeply involved and aware of your connection dynamics, and this let me understand your chart furtherly.
As I said, Chiron looks like the "glue" of your connection, not just cause you have the Chiron conjunction since you were both born during that transit, but cause that conjunction, in synastry, forms the Grand square involving Mars, Moon, the opposition to Neptune/Uranus, then the Chiron conjunction is entangled to his ASC and your Mars, which are the core aspects of your deepest subconscious issues. Then, in the Composite, Chiron plays out as a theme again, cause it's in the first house, trine to Sun/NN, and opposite Saturn, which is highly binding. This configuration is the reason I said that you risk to find yourself "trapped"in his issues, taking the burden of it. Of course I'm likely putting much emphasis on it cause without a close knowledge of your reality I can only base my assumptions on those astrological aspects, which look significant. It all might well just play out on a more subtle subconscious level though, never really having a negative impact, but this depends on how your relationship devolves and how those aspects would play out in the long run. Since you have felt your connection, or new connection at this current time, lead you two to share some important issues and understanding, then I think those Chiron aspects must have a role... then, it all depends on how we deal with those energies and the situation we're involved in.
In the natal and synastry I see all those aspects and energies of his you have described so well, and the similar patterns you have in your natals. Especially Saturn opposite Chiron is what might keep you both focused on struggling for self-confidence and to release from your past issues... Well, you can certainly be a "nurturer" to each other, with your Moon on his 4th house trine to his Jupiter and his Moon on your 4th house, conjunct your IC and sextile to your Sun/ASC. In fact, Composite Moon is conjunct to chart ruler mercury, Venus and Juno in 4th house! So this clearly the house, like a shelter, where you find your intimate/emotional/comfortable bond. The Neptune oppositions might involve you both though, in that escapism danger, and you both might not be able to look at the big picture while you're merging in that nurturing 4th house... this is why I assumed that the Composite Sun/NN conjunction in the 10th house might call for more self-reliance and realism in order to avoid the (binding) burden posed by Saturn/Uranus/Neptune against Chiron, cause otherwise those composite t-squares might come into play, especially the Mars/Pluto opposition square to Moon and Venus (suggesting this just as a potential worse scenario, of course). IP: Logged |
abrightfutureahead
Knowflake Posts: 346
From: kent uk
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted June 03, 2019 04:36 PM
Thank you Stolka 😃I’ll keep you updated and yes I think you’ve done a good job and picking up on our charts.
I’m just trying to look into some soulmate and asteroid connections, and soulmate pairs etc. As I’m sure we must have something more karmic and “gluey” going on than just our Chiron contacts as it seems to be in our synastry. As we can see not much saturn going on or contacts to his moon/Venus on my side, but he is head over heels for me and we both feel we’ve been together before.
He said he remembers things he’s “forgot” about me when he wakes up and then can’t remember what it was, and he spends a lot of time trying to think what it is that’s Happened between us because he’s sure there’s more to it, I feel the same about that, yet I don’t think we spoke in school. All his best friends know and remember me well, and I them. And then we find out his aunt married my grandad and we prob met when we was children also... very bizarre. Could you please remind me how to turn on aspects to asteroids on the grid on Astro.com I’ve been checking for soulmate or karmic pairs and feeling disheartened that they aren’t showing, yet I can see some conjunctions on the chart. Silly me I just remember you need to click something for it to show on the aspect grid! 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ I’m so sure there’s something going on there.. Thank you Stolka 🙂 IP: Logged | |
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