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Lioness
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posted August 15, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus both opposite Venus... I really dont know how to handle these aspects.. It's just too emotional for me to comprehend.. I try everything to run from it and get away.. But nothing works... It has even affected my cycle...

No matter what I do, he is always there.. I pulled away completely from him and I WAS even going out with Mr Scorpio.. But noooo... I just cant get away...

Yesterday he calls me, saying he's nearby at a store and if I have water... What the store your sitting at doesnt have water??? Yes of course I gave it to him.. AND I was happy to do it.. (throwing my hands up in the air)

This guy hits all 3 of my water houses. This fire girl,doesn't know how to handle those watery emotions that he activates... Im just not use to this... Its very confusing...

I try EVERYTHING to get away... NOTHING NOTHING works!! The more I pull away, the worse it is.... DAMN!!!!

All I can say is if you ever get a composite like this, take off before you feel the effects...

Sorry... Really REALLY needed to VENT....

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posted August 15, 2010 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have very strong Mars-Pluto and Venus-Pluto aspects both in Synastry and Composite with a special friend of mine. We have known each other since we were 5 years old and we are 40 now. The connection is unexplainable. I could write a book about our love/hate relationship. I have learned we will ALWAYS be part of each other's lives whether people like it or not. It can be tough, but I would not want him to walk away for ten million dollars!
Best of luck. You may be stuck like glue with this one!

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posted August 15, 2010 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a DW in synastry---Moon conjunct Pluto and Moon square Pluto.
You feel bonded with deep tenderness and also great passion.
Is that what you feel?

Ami


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posted August 15, 2010 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes, Pluto/Venus, Pluto/Moon double whammies is no joke.

I have it with someone, my Venus conj Mars opposite his Venus conj Pluto on my Pluto + Saturn/Venus, Jupiter/Venus and Neptune/Venus double whammies. This person just lives in my head and I cannot seem to be able to get him out of my head no matter how hard I try. Nothing works, I don't know what to do.

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posted August 16, 2010 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Peri.. Its like that for me also... Its tough... I dont know how to deal or over come this...


Ami.. Honestly what I feel is: As if Im stuck in a spiders web, I do everything to escape but Im stuck and I cant move... I dont feel like my self anymore... This is really tough...

Stellium.. Im glad its yours is someone you would like to have in your life

As much as I feel I need him, in my life I feel as if I would be better w/o the confusing.. Plus we have alot of Neptune connections, and 12th overlays.. So we really do have this strong telepathic link.. Sometimes, I not sure if I am feeling me or If I'm feeling him... Or If Im just imagining it... Its very confusing...

This moon conjunct Pluto/oppos Venus is in our composite.. We also have synatry Pluto aspects... Way to much Pluto going on here...


But ironically both of us "act" like nothing.. but yet we both "know".. We both have Saturn in the 3rd.. So neither of us will say a damn thing...

We also both have Venus Sq Pluto in our Natals so I think this aspect is intensified between us...

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posted August 16, 2010 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is hard, Lioness.
I feel the squished state which you describe.
You can't see through the fog/deep feelings/passions

I don't know what to say.
For me, I try to trust in something larger than myself leading me.

When I have pushed against closed doors, I paid.
If I were you, I would try to SEE which way the doors are going.

Are they opening TO a relationship with him or closing?
I think if you get quiet ,you may be able to see.
Come back and write if you want/need to?


X O X Ami

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posted August 16, 2010 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness, I'm sorry you are feeling that way, vent all you need until you feel better.

Have you tried talking to him about it? Maybe that would help, or maybe that would make him realize it's easier for you, if he just stayed away. I have a friend that was in your situation, my planets fall into two of his water houses + angular houses were hit too. My Moon conjuncts his IC, my Venus conjuncts his DSC, my Sun, Merc, Saturn, Uranus sits in his 7th as well, but not conjunct. Neptune, Karma, Amor, Valentine, in his 8th, Jupiter in his 10th, Vertex in his 12th, Chiron in his 1st. I didn't return the feelings he had and I was already involved with someone else so I distanced myself from him because it's not fair to him. I hope your guy does the right thing and stays away if that is your wish. I think in time you will feel less and less for him if he isn't in the picture.

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posted August 16, 2010 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of you guys are so sweet... Thanks

Ami I also just let what will be, will be letting nature take its course. These feelings are just alot for me to bare. I'm left trying to understand them. Some days are easier than others..

Soulful, No I/we dont talk about feelings at all, if anything we just joke around with each other...

I have told him before that I was walking away from him, and I did for 3 weeks. I even deleted his number. He compeltely left me alone during that time. But either way I have no choice but to see him everyday.

It was awful during that time. We both avoided each other, and refused to look at each other.. But then both of us would turn around at the same time, and look at the other... haha.. We busted each other turning back and looking.. I have to admit that was funny..

If we get like this it turns into a "game" of I refuse to look or talk to you, type of thing.. Then I think both of us are hurt by the other.

It's acutally worse then... There truly is no escaping here..

So yes I do know that I have no choice but to keep him in my life. We both maintain or distance to a point.. but cant stay away..

Thats what confuses me so much.. I can walk away from anyone, w/o looking back.. But yet not him and it just isnt logical.

I didnt even have these types of feelings with my husband of 12 years... very very confusing...

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posted May 23, 2019 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.
Lioness how did this pan out for you?
Manage to move on?

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posted May 23, 2019 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya, I'm also curious to know... I can relate so much to what's being said here, especially this:

"If we get like this it turns into a "game" of I refuse to look or talk to you, type of thing.. Then I think both of us are hurt by the other."

Is this really all Moon-Pluto or there are other aspects?

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posted May 23, 2019 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm moving this into the Interpersonal Astrology sub-forum where it belongs.

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posted May 31, 2019 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Lioness
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posted May 31, 2019 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Bump.
Lioness how did this pan out for you?
Manage to move on?

Sorry hon, jus saw ur question.

We went back and fourth for 10years. Yes 10 flipping years.

We are in off again. But this time im ready for it to be for good. Im not willing to do this anymore with him.

Sadly i just met a new guy. He has wowed me!! Come to find out we also have composite moon conjunct pluto. 😱. I just cant seem to escape this aspect

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posted June 01, 2019 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Sorry hon, jus saw ur question.

We went back and fourth for 10years. Yes 10 flipping years.

We are in off again. But this time im ready for it to be for good. Im not willing to do this anymore with him.

Sadly i just met a new guy. He has wowed me!! Come to find out we also have composite moon conjunct pluto. 😱. I just cant seem to escape this aspect


That’s ok girl!
When you’re ‘off’ how long has your longest off been?
I just recently broke up with my composite moon/Pluto and I’m in pain not hearing from him for over 2 weeks now. Like I can’t stand it. I’m dying to message him but I’m afraid it’ll be too painful 😔 I don’t know how to do this. It’s like I NEED to hear him, see him, feel him, touch him. It’s horrible..

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posted June 01, 2019 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel your pain! Ive been there so many times. The longest we didnt speak was 6months. It was me that refused to speak to him. It was pretty painful.
Now its jus not worth the pain of back and fourth.

My advice is keep ur mind occupied with other things and keep busy. It helps. Wont stop the pain but it helps.

Its an extremely tough energy to escape. Im sorry wish i had better advice. My 10 yr ordeal just flipped up my head.

Now i met a new guy and i have the exact same aspect of moon/pluto/jupiter. So apparently i dont learn my lesson. I see so many similarities of how the energy is playing out. Maybe im a lil better able to handle the energy, but probably not 😬
The obsession with each other has already started. We are talking/texting all day from 6am to 2am. We cant stop talking. Im a zombie with no sleep 😳.
But at least this one is a leo and not a pisces so we can better understand each others energy. We both have venus in cancer. So idk its more of a u get me type of thing between us. Its weird really weird.

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posted June 02, 2019 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s like every day that passes, instead of things getting better (time heals is BS) it’s getting more and more excruciating. It’s like the air is being sapped from my lungs. I hate that this has affected me so much. No one ever has before, not even when I separated from my ex husband. I wonder if he’s feeling the same we have Venus conjunct pluto in our progressed composite applying. But I hate that us women will feel our sadness more and him being a guy, he’ll just distract and distract and distract.
I have no clue how you guys did not speak for 6 months. Like HOWWWWW. That’s insane. We’re you seeing other people ?
I’m sorry you have this aspect again now. That’s just ridiculous! With Jupiter? So it’s even more intense. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry for you lol. It sounds at least a little better in some ways tho 🙏

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posted June 02, 2019 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lioness,
Maybe this time round it'll be different...it'll work out? That 10yrs of back & forth is WOW... it's really perseverance. Do you have heavy Pluto or Saturn in your natal?


@EmGem,
You're having cold turkey now. Perhaps give yourself..ehm...a few months? (T_T)
It's really hard, I know... I was talking to a guy friend yesterday about how women and men handle breakups. He says that women usually go through intense pain right after a breakup before they pick themselves up and move on. Men, on the other hand, experience pain in delayed mode. They normally only start feeling the loss after some time has passed.

And my experience showed that some of them only start feeling the loss when they see you again and realised that you have moved on.

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posted June 02, 2019 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Lioness,
Maybe this time round it'll be different...it'll work out? That 10yrs of back & forth is WOW... it's really perseverance. Do you have heavy Pluto or Saturn in your natal?


@EmGem,
You're having cold turkey now. Perhaps give yourself..ehm...a few months? (T_T)
It's really hard, I know... I was talking to a guy friend yesterday about how women and men handle breakups. He says that women usually go through intense pain right after a breakup before they pick themselves up and move on. Men, on the other hand, experience pain in delayed mode. They normally only start feeling the loss after some time has passed.

And my experience showed that some of them only start feeling the loss when they see you again and realised that you have moved on.



I have pluto in h7 😭
Venus sq pluto in natal
So im use to the pluto in relationships.

But that one hit me hard, i was having heavy pluto transits when it started

I was going through
Pluto sq pluto
But since i have venus sq pluto
It was a t square of pluto venus pluto

Now t pluto is on my nn. 😱

Cant wait until pluto gets into aqua opposite me leo stellium. 🤦‍♀️😱

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posted June 02, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and my gem saturn is well aspected
It sextiles my leo stellium

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posted June 03, 2019 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:

I have pluto in h7 😭
Venus sq pluto in natal
So im use to the pluto in relationships.

But that one hit me hard, i was having heavy pluto transits when it started

I was going through
Pluto sq pluto
But since i have venus sq pluto
It was a t square of pluto venus pluto

Now t pluto is on my nn. 😱

Cant wait until pluto gets into aqua opposite me leo stellium. 🤦‍♀️😱


Wow, that Pluto in 7H square Venus must be hard on you. Do you always feel that you need to have power & control over the other person? Does your Saturn aspect your Venus?

I'm having transit Neptune square Venus. I wonder which is worse...Neptune square or Pluto square? I'm feeling so disappointed with relationships.

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posted June 03, 2019 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@EmGem,
You're having cold turkey now. Perhaps give yourself..ehm...a few months? (T_T)
It's really hard, I know... I was talking to a guy friend yesterday about how women and men handle breakups. He says that women usually go through intense pain right after a breakup before they pick themselves up and move on. Men, on the other hand, experience pain in delayed mode. They normally only start feeling the loss after some time has passed.

And my experience showed that some of them only start feeling the loss when they see you again and realised that you have moved on.


That's so true. That's why men tend to always come back at a later stage lol. They feel it later. Anyways, news just in...
He messaged me today after 3 weeks. OMG it feels like i've now had a hit of heroin. This is not good.....

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posted June 03, 2019 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's so true. That's why men tend to always come back at a later stage lol. They feel it later. Anyways, news just in...
He messaged me today after 3 weeks. OMG it feels like i've now had a hit of heroin. This is not good.....

If he really wants you back, let him chase you. He at least has to do that for all the pain he has put you through...

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posted June 03, 2019 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:

I have pluto in h7 😭
Venus sq pluto in natal
So im use to the pluto in relationships.

But that one hit me hard, i was having heavy pluto transits when it started

I was going through
Pluto sq pluto
But since i have venus sq pluto
It was a t square of pluto venus pluto

Now t pluto is on my nn. 😱

Cant wait until pluto gets into aqua opposite me leo stellium. 🤦‍♀️😱


Wow, that Pluto in 7H square Venus must be hard on you. Do you always feel that you need to have power & control over the other person? Does your Saturn aspect your Venus?

I'm having transit Neptune square Venus. I wonder which is worse...Neptune square or Pluto square? I'm feeling so disappointed with relationships.

I have both pluto/uranus in h7. So my relationships are super intense. Then bam nothing its jus over.
Relationships are my curse.

I dont really feel the need to control ‘guy’ however i wont allow “guy” to control me. I get some pretty controlling guys. Example fishy told me i needed to OBEY him! Wtf was that! I obeyed him by walking out the door.
What is it 1950???

No my saturn doesnt aspect my venus.
I have a t square jupiter/venus/pluto
Thats really my only venus aspect.

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posted June 03, 2019 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
That's so true. That's why men tend to always come back at a later stage lol. They feel it later. Anyways, news just in...
He messaged me today after 3 weeks. OMG it feels like i've now had a hit of heroin. This is not good.....

Trust me girl dont go back. Before u know it 10years have gone by

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posted June 03, 2019 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, that Pluto in 7H square Venus must be hard on you. Do you always feel that you need to have power & control over the other person? Does your Saturn aspect your Venus?

I'm having transit Neptune square Venus. I wonder which is worse...Neptune square or Pluto square? I'm feeling so disappointed with relationships.

I have both pluto/uranus in h7. So my relationships are super intense. Then bam nothing its jus over.
Relationships are my curse.

I dont really feel the need to control ‘guy’ however i wont allow “guy” to control me. I get some pretty controlling guys. Example fishy told me i needed to OBEY him! Wtf was that! I obeyed him by walking out the door.
What is it 1950???

No my saturn doesnt aspect my venus.
I have a t square jupiter/venus/pluto
Thats really my only venus aspect.


I've Uranus/Pluto in 5H so not a bed of roses for me either. Relationships can also start intensely & suddenly for me, and end suddenly (either they or I will wake up one day and realised we've lost interest). This has actually caused me to always be "counting down" to when my latest love affair will suddenly end... almost like it's a given. I don't attract controlling partners but I often get obsessive ones or I'm the obsessed one. I guess that's the difference between Pluto in 5H vs 7H.

Lol at how you "obeyed" fishy. He actually used that word? 🤦‍♀️

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