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Dons2angelss
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posted June 28, 2019 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the composite of my best friend and my children's father. Back story, my best friend was engaged to my brother and recently, she broke off the engagement. Today I found out she's been going behind his back to be with my kids dad (him and I have an awful history) and she's told him everything personal about my new relationship and private things about me. They plan on being together now. Here's their composite


Here's their synastry too btw he's in red

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posted June 28, 2019 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay we can officially call this skank, my EX Best Friend.

Okay so they have ruler of the chart SUN opposite PLUTO forming a tsquare with the MOON with Venus in the 8th. This qualifies as a plutonic relationship so it will bring to the surface her shadow side, if she is not used to a plutonic composite she might be operating by compulsion and not feel she has control of herself. Like your first heavy plutonic relationship brings up ALL your shadow stuff to the surface and it can feel you don't have control over your decisions and behavior. Since she clearly has a lot of shadow work to do I highly doubt this relationship will last more than a year. Relationships that bring up your shadow side happen for that reason to bring that stuff to the surface and then it usually ends and you have to work through that stuff often after. The after mass leads to a lot of introspection and increased awareness.

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posted June 28, 2019 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Okay we can officially call this skank, my EX Best Friend.

Okay so they have ruler of the chart SUN opposite PLUTO forming a tsquare with the MOON with Venus in the 8th. This qualifies as a plutonic relationship so it will bring to the surface her shadow side, if she is not used to a plutonic composite she might be operating by compulsion and not feel she has control of herself. Like your first heavy plutonic relationship brings up ALL your shadow stuff to the surface and it can feel you don't have control over your decisions and behavior. Since she clearly has a lot of shadow work to do I highly doubt this relationship will last more than a year. Relationships that bring up your shadow side happen for that reason to bring that stuff to the surface and then it usually ends and you have to work through that stuff often after. The after mass leads to a lot of introspection and increased awareness.


That's funny, I literally told her that when I read her solar return. She has a lot, A LOT of shadow. And absolutely, ex best friend...

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posted June 28, 2019 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow interesting that Tr Pluto is activating the APEX of that tsquare (the moon). And then we have Tr Saturn conjunct Southnode approaching that apex too, very karmic relationship.

I mean to be fair with that T-square involving the Chart ruler and pluto, this relationship will transform her and force her to do a lot of shadow work, it feels very fated to them.

With northnode in the 1H keeping in mind the rest of the chart I feel the goal of the relationship is to have them work through their shadow side and integrate so they can be more whole on their own and they will then go their separate ways, this is more meant to be a romance I feel that is karnic and yes will result in transformation and separation, this is further reinforced by Uranus squaring the AC/DC axis and the nodes, it may start and end out of the blue.

Ruler of the 8th in the 5th, then ruler of the 5th conjunct mars in the 1H. I would say a very sexual relationship probably.

Interesting again transit pluto triggering apex which is the moon and tr southnode and saturn approaching this point. I mean Tr pluto I feel represents she losing you and your brother and eventually him, tr pluto triggering that moon apex I feel will translate as transformation but also grief and loss, heartbreak etc...

This is quite the car wreck, wish everyone lots of growing and healing!

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posted June 28, 2019 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, I've just separated myself from the situation as much as possible. Her children are friends with my kids so that's a bummer. They both are very alike too. Obviously moon conjunct moon and they both have a face they show the world, and their real face behind closed doors. It took my years to be free of him and I really hope that them two coming together will finally show each of them their true selves....with me long gone 😂 just to add, he is extremely, and I mean extremely narcissistic and she knew all of this and saw first hand what I went through.

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posted June 28, 2019 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel this is very disappointing to you but I get the sense that in spite of this you are coping with it pretty well. Gives me the impression you have done a lot of your own shadow work.

I wonder if he is narccistic and she is borderline or histrionic? this does remind me of the drama triangle this whole thing.

In the past have you been overly compassionate? bc if your best friend is borderline or histrionic and your ex narcissistic you might be overly compassionate.

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posted June 28, 2019 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel this is very disappointing to you but I get the sense that in spite of this you are coping with it pretty well. Gives me the impression you have done a lot of your own shadow work.

I wonder if he is narccistic and she is borderline or histrionic? this does remind me of the drama triangle this whole thing.

In the past have you been overly compassionate? bc if your best friend is borderline or histrionic and your ex narcissistic you might be overly compassionate.


😂 Absolutely I am, thank you and yes I've tried to see myself as clearly as possible. And I tend to attract these kinds of people as well. I'm not going to say I'm used to it because no one can really get used to betrayal but, I do know how to handle it. Yes, she is very histrionic and I did know that beforehand so I'm not innocent here, I let **** slide too much. She started dating my brother so I put up some boundaries that would keep me as unbiased as possible which led to me not seeing her true colors.

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posted June 28, 2019 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just need to neutralize your compassionate side, even good traits can be problematic. Over-compassion along with traits like been open minded and accommodating I feel can result in you attracting people like that which are very high maintenance. There is also this unconscious need to rescue which can make you a target to attract these types and get sucked into the drama triangle too...Okay time to go psychoanalize myself lol...

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posted June 28, 2019 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You just need to neutralize your compassionate side, even good traits can be problematic. Over-compassion along with traits like been open minded and accommodating I feel can result in you attracting people like that which are very high maintenance. There is also this unconscious need to rescue which can make you a target to attract these types and get sucked into the drama triangle too...Okay time to go psychoanalize myself lol...

😂 I've been working on that. You can't turn off empathy but I've been learning ways to block myself of the drama people create. All I can do is control myself and they have no control over me or my reactions (moon conjunct Pluto in my natal). But from the looks of their synastry and composite, I'll agree with the above posts. Their relationship is karmic and they both seriously need it to get a good long look at their self. I'm going to just step aside and grab a bag of popcorn... And if course keep my children away from the fire. 👍

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posted June 29, 2019 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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😂 I've been working on that. You can't turn off empathy but I've been learning ways to block myself of the drama people create. All I can do is control myself and they have no control over me or my reactions (moon conjunct Pluto in my natal). But from the looks of their synastry and composite, I'll agree with the above posts. Their relationship is karmic and they both seriously need it to get a good long look at their self. I'm going to just step aside and grab a bag of popcorn... And if course keep my children away from the fire. 👍

Smart girl! resilient and with a sense of humor! Hell yeah.

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posted June 29, 2019 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not even a friend, let alone best friend. If she ever tries to come back and beg for forgiveness, don't ever let her back into your life!

I've heard people say that Cap Moons can be very selfish in getting what they want. I guess it's true.

Also, I personally didn't have good experiences with a lot of Pisces Sun gals. Not all are bad but I've met some who were REALLY pretentious and excellent at playing the helpless victim.

Btw, what's in your chart that shows a highly compassionate nature? Lotsa Neptune?

Anyway, their synastry shows Uranus square/Opposite Venus DW and a sesquiquadrate in Composite. Their romantic feelings will blow hot/cold. Composite Uranus square Nodes also indicates that.

Saturn square/quincunx Moon DW is tough too even though it ends up as a trine in Composite. IME I can handle one harsh aspect between Saturn-Moon, but DW no.

Pluto square Moon is also bad news. The last time I was Moon, my heart got broken big time. And they have the square also in Composite. Worse.

cSun square Moon is also not favourable for a long-term relationship. Shows 2 people not aligned in their values. They will eventually drift apart especially with their feelings likely blowing hot/cold with each other.

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posted June 29, 2019 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also, I personally didn't have good experiences with a lot of Pisces Sun gals. Not all are bad but I've met some who were REALLY pretentious and excellent at playing the helpless victim.


I am a Pisces sun ( obviously not like that woman we are on about) but I have to agree with you. I know a few very very sneaky and sly Pisceans. They are not really playing the victim but they are so good at hiding their true self and their true intentions and seem to be very unscrupulous. I never understood where that idealisation of Pisces in astrology came from. Or maybe this is just the dark side of Pisces.

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posted June 29, 2019 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've heard people say that Cap Moons can be very selfish in getting what they want. I guess it's true.
Yes, very true I've noticed.


Btw, what's in your chart that shows a highly compassionate nature? Lotsa Neptune?



Here's my natal. 12H stellium and the asteroid compassion is right on my sun so yeah, lots of Neptune connections. I also have a scorpio stellium and my moon/Pluto helps me to deal with situations like this and cut ties easily and walk away. Like they never even existed to me. Having a huge amount of patience helps too.

I know them both on a deep personal level and they're both so alike in such negative ways that I can see this turning into an all out war between them. I wouldn't care at all if it weren't for my kids. They're going to get caught in this **** storm and I'm going to be picking up the pieces. It may go smoothly for a while but from what I know about them personally, and the looks of this composite/synastry..... Dammit man!

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posted June 29, 2019 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am a Pisces sun ( obviously not like that woman we are on about) but I have to agree with you. I know a few very very sneaky and sly Pisceans. They are not really playing the victim but they are so good at hiding their true self and their true intentions and seem to be very unscrupulous. I never understood where that idealisation of Pisces in astrology came from. Or maybe this is just the dark side of Pisces.

My oldest son is a pisces and so was my father. I'm really starting to think it's more of the female pisces that brings the dark out of this sign. My son and father are literally, everything good you hear about it but, they also have a lot more water in their charts than this woman. Her sun is also in her 8H and his is conjunct chiron so, no bueno. All the facades.

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posted June 29, 2019 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My oldest son is a pisces and so was my father. I'm really starting to think it's more of the female pisces that brings the dark out of this sign. My son and father are literally, everything good you hear about it but, they also have a lot more water in their charts than this woman. Her sun is also in her 8H and his is conjunct chiron so, no bueno. All the facades.

yeah it'S def. more the women who are embody the dark side. Those I know have a lot of Pisces/water influence though
btw: your ex friend does have quite a lot of water with sun and mercury in Pisces plus sun square Neptune

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posted June 29, 2019 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
yeah it'S def. more the women who are embody the dark side. Those I know have a lot of Pisces/water influence though
btw: your ex friend does have quite a lot of water with sun and mercury in Pisces plus sun square Neptune

Yep, my father was a pisces sun with cancer moon. My son has a pisces stellium, sun, venus, mercury, and uranus with a virgo moon conjunct saturn.
She actually has a masters degree in psychology, and a lot of mental health issues herself (go figure) so I'm not THAT surprised that she pulled this. She oppresses all of her emotions and it was mentioned above that she may feel like she doesn't have control of herself right now and that makes a lot of sense. In her solar return chart she has sun conjunct chiron so this year is going to be a lot of inner work for her and she really needs it. His sr chart has sun conjunct uranus, he's not going to know what hit him.

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posted June 29, 2019 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, my father was a pisces sun with cancer moon. My son has a pisces stellium, sun, venus, mercury, and uranus with a virgo moon conjunct saturn.
She actually has a masters degree in psychology, and a lot of mental health issues herself (go figure) so I'm not THAT surprised that she pulled this. She oppresses all of her emotions and it was mentioned above that she may feel like she doesn't have control of herself right now and that makes a lot of sense. In her solar return chart she has sun conjunct chiron so this year is going to be a lot of inner work for her and she really needs it. His sr chart has sun conjunct uranus, he's not going to know what hit him.

Aww your dad is like me (we are the best lol ) and I'm just glad you distanced yourself from her and can look at that whole scenario emotionally uninvolved. They'll both rip each other apart most probably.

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posted June 29, 2019 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's actually what I'm afraid of. With my kids involved, it makes it that much more difficult ugh. On one hand, they need each other to see who they really are, and on the other, it's going to be a **** storm 🙄 and yes, my dad was an amazing man and father ❤️

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posted June 29, 2019 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's actually what I'm afraid of. With my kids involved, it makes it that much more difficult ugh. On one hand, they need each other to see who they really are, and on the other, it's going to be a **** storm 🙄 and yes, my dad was an amazing man and father ❤️

does he see your kids often? If you feel it's not safe for them to see their father anymore then you can keep them away from him

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posted June 29, 2019 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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does he see your kids often? If you feel it's not safe for them to see their father anymore then you can keep them away from him

Yes we have 50/50 time with them. It's such a complicated situation because my oldest son (he's 11) has been friends with her kids (they're 10 and 11) for years. So now that I've broken off all contact, I won't allow my son around her anymore for obvious reasons. I can't stop their dad from having her around on his time and I won't stop her boys from visiting at my home. And in my state, I legally can't do anything until something bad happens first. So, I literally have to wait until she does something (she's been extremely abusive to my brother) physical and then I can file a pretective order.

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posted June 29, 2019 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So so sorry you have to go through this. You sound like a really strong, centered person though, and that will take you very far for the rest of your life.

I couldn't help but notice that their composite Uranus is almost exactly square their composite NN/SN axis. Makes me think that their union was destined to be a chaotic mess for all of those who happen to be in the same environment as them.

Continuing with this theme, transiting Uranus will be opposite their composite Uranus at some point, a couple years in the future. God forbid, if their "union" does last years in the future, I think there is a definitive death knell for the relationship via that transit alone.

Though given the transitory nature of Uranus in a relationship composite, I imagine their relationship will be short lived regardless because of the square to the nodes.

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posted June 30, 2019 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I never understood where that idealisation of Pisces in astrology came from. Or maybe this is just the dark side of Pisces.

This is definitely the dark side of Pisces. I've known Pisces gals who are extremely soft-hearted and nice. But there're also those who are really two-faced.

Someone was complaining about a Pisces co-worker. As a newbie, she tried to suck up to the seniors by offering to help them buy coffee. After that she complained to the Director that the seniors bullied her. 🤥

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posted June 30, 2019 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My oldest son is a pisces and so was my father. I'm really starting to think it's more of the female pisces that brings the dark out of this sign.

Agree. So far my bad encounters are all Pisces gals. The guys are pretty easy going and usually has a "softness" to them.


Btw, I saw that you've a Taurus Sun/Venus. This again emphasises how patient we Taureans can be.

Also, you have Saturn opp Venus. You often feel responsible/obligated towards the people you care about, and this can make you give and give so if you meet toxic people, they will just suck you dry like a vampire.

Your Sun/Compassion/Chiron stellium in 12H is so telling. You probably don't even know why you allow people to take advantage of your compassionate nature and it just ends up hurting you.

I've Compassion conjunct Pluto/Vertex in 5H. No better. 😅

I think you did the right thing by staying away and watching over your kids for any signs of abuse. I don't think she'll physically abuse them(?) but make sure she doesn't talk sh*t to them and poison their little minds.

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posted June 30, 2019 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Agree. So far my bad encounters are all Pisces gals. The guys are pretty easy going and usually has a "softness" to them.


Btw, I saw that you've a Taurus Sun/Venus. This again emphasises how patient we Taureans can be.

Also, you have Saturn opp Venus. You often feel responsible/obligated towards the people you care about, and this can make you give and give so if you meet toxic people, they will just suck you dry like a vampire.

Your Sun/Compassion/Chiron stellium in 12H is so telling. You probably don't even know why you allow people to take advantage of your compassionate nature and it just ends up hurting you.

I've Compassion conjunct Pluto/Vertex in 5H. No better. 😅

I think you did the right thing by staying away and watching over your kids for any signs of abuse. I don't think she'll physically abuse them(?) but make sure she doesn't talk sh*t to them and poison their little minds.


You're so right about my letting people bleed me dry. This is my year of "losing" those people as well, in all kinds of ways. My pluto is conjunct my moon and vertex too, she knows better than to hurt my babies 😈, she'll get the hell end of my hades moon. I wouldn't put it past her to try to manipulate them though so she's not allowed around them unsupervised.

You're a taurean too 😊 that whole patience being a virtue thing sure does ring true! Sometimes I wonder just how much I can take lol. Apparently, I still haven't met my ceiling yet. I really hope it's close though geez! Thank you so much for all of your input. It helps having other perspectives on situations like this.

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posted June 30, 2019 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh you're a double Taurus? I'm not surprised. You do seem very stable and centered.
That'll definitely help you deal with this situation.
All the best for you! You got this, I'm sure

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