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ana_bee
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posted June 30, 2019 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When the composite NN is in 5th house and the davison NN is in 11th house.. what would that mean? How should one interpret a flipped NN placement?

Would be great to get some insight on this one. Don’t need a whole chart interpretation. Just this particular issue.

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posted June 30, 2019 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 01, 2019 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really understand the davison vs composite. The nn are always in the opposite house along with the sun. Some planets move around but the moon I've noticed usually stays the same so I just stick with the composite. Midpoints hold more weight for me than just dividing the birthdates of each person.

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posted July 01, 2019 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The NNs are always in opposite houses? That’s not true. I‘ve seen plenty of charts where the composite NN and the Davison NN occupy the same house, or different houses which are not in opposition.

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posted July 01, 2019 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
The NNs are always in opposite houses? That’s not true. I‘ve seen plenty of charts where the composite NN and the Davison NN occupy the same house, or different houses which are not in opposition.

Sorry, sometimes it's the same or very close and others it's just reversed. Other placements differ but for the most part, I'd just pick one and go with it.

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posted July 03, 2019 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone else answer my question please? Would really like to know

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posted July 06, 2019 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 21, 2019 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ana_bee:
When the composite NN is in 5th house and the davison NN is in 11th house.. what would that mean? How should one interpret a flipped NN placement?

Would be great to get some insight on this one. Don’t need a whole chart interpretation. Just this particular issue.


The composite chart shows how the two people are seen by others (as a team/couple).

The Davison Chart reveals the purpose of the relationship - or the what the two people/souls have come together to learn in their current incarnation.

So, differing NN placements simply indicate that the relationship has a different objective to that which others (including the two people themselves) may perceive the couple as having.

[Hint : Muhammad Ali and Angelo Dundee were perceived to be pursuing material success via the sport of boxing - but the (soul) purpose of this relationship may actually have been to open the door that ultimately led to the election of the first non-white POTUS.]

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posted July 21, 2019 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Can someone else answer my question please? Would really like to know

hi ana_bee

I do not usually like to criticize other astrological believes or techniques... but here I will go against my principles .

the davison composite is not a astrological tool. it is based on calendrical differents of birthdays bit has very little astrological value. mainly because most planets(excluding the sun,moon and node) have retrograde motion. the davison composite does not represent this fact of astrology. and there fore,though it sometimes can give a vague insight, overall it is worthless for anything besides philosophical opinions.

as I said, I donot likeastrolgers to criticize other systems but a fewmonths ago on this forum, I went ahead and made a interpretation of a Davison chart. it showed a amazingly favorable relationship. But the feedback was that this relationship was a disaster. so I recalculated a composite chart and the midpoint composite showed the exact dynamics of this disastrous relationship. so since then I do not waste my time on davisons. if one does more research on the davison, you would find that later in his life davison himself developed some doubts about this name sake technique.

so ithink that:..........................
The composite chart shows how the two people are seen by others (as a team/couple).The Davison Chart reveals the purpose of the relationship - or the what the two people/souls have come together to learn in their current incarnation.................is no more than philosophy with no real meaning.

to answer specific points about how one chart can have a reversed node position in respect to the other chart, one must consider the mathematics of midpoints.

say you have one sun at 10 leo 0 exactly and the other sun of the composite at 10 aqua o exactly. the midpoint would be a axis line of 10 Taurus/scorpio 0. that is there would be two solutions to the equation. in fact any midpoint solution has two solutions a near midpoint and a far midpoint because we are dealing with a circle.but a opposition midpoint would be defined by an axis because both points would be equidistant to the original two suns.

I am looking at this special situation to show how easily a NN in one chart can show up reversed in the other chart.
okay now if one sun is 10 leo30 and the other sun remains exactly at 10 aquar 0, the midpoints would now show a far midpoint and a near midpoint solution.the near midpoint(near the two original values) would be10 scorpio 15 and the far midpoint(farther from the two oriinginal values) would be 10 taurus 15.(note I have edited these calculations as I initially made incorrect measurements)
the point I am trying to illustrate is that in this situation a difference of just 30 minutes of arc would reverse the position of the midpoints by nearly 180 degrees. so a very small difference in the original values can lead to a large difference inposition most 180 degree reversal.

so if a symbol in a davison/composite are near a "balance point",a small difference in their value can lead to a nearly opposite result..

I have to apologize for being so dogmatic but again,i don't think the davison is worth consideration for an astrologer .
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posted July 21, 2019 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by todd: ......a fewmonths ago on this forum, I went ahead and made a interpretation of a Davison chart. it showed a amazingly favorable relationship. But the feedback was that this relationship was a disaster. so I recalculated a composite chart and the midpoint composite showed the exact dynamics of this disastrous relationship. so since then I do not waste my time on davisons. if one does more research on the davison, you would find that later in his life davison himself developed some doubts about this name sake technique.

Hi todd,
Please link me to your Davison Chart and composite chart interpretations referred to above.

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posted July 26, 2019 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

Hi todd,
Please link me to your Davison Chart and composite chart interpretations referred to above.


I don't remember how long ago this chart came up and I am not inclined to spend a couple of hours trying to find the thread.

I do remember that the davison came up with a "pyramid" pattern which is two planets or more forming a sextile and sextile/trine to the node axis.this formation is extremely favorable. but the midpoint did not come up with this pattern.
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posted July 27, 2019 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
I don't remember how long ago this chart came up and I am not inclined to spend a couple of hours trying to find the thread.

I do remember that the davison came up with a "pyramid" pattern which is two planets or more forming a sextile and sextile/trine to the node axis.this formation is extremely favorable. but the midpoint did not come up with this pattern.
todd



Ok. ... Thanks for responding, todd.

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posted July 27, 2019 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
I don't remember how long ago this chart came up and I am not inclined to spend a couple of hours trying to find the thread.

I do remember that the davison came up with a "pyramid" pattern which is two planets or more forming a sextile and sextile/trine to the node axis.this formation is extremely favorable. but the midpoint did not come up with this pattern.
todd



Ok. ... Thanks for responding, todd.

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