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itsmeyaz
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posted September 18, 2019 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

I will link below the synastry chart with this man that I know for a bit over a year now. We started talking around the beginning of 2018 and we stopped talking for over a year, until he contacted me on the 2nd of September. He said he was going through a rough period of time, and then he went MIA. Hence why we stopped talking.

When I met him, he actually looked like he was going through it. I felt like he was depressed, and he was always tapping on a low energy, and I could sense it. But I didn't want to be involved because sometimes people's energy drain me too much. And he was just a stranger. So I did not mind that he disappeared.

Him and dad share the same birth day. Years apart, but he reminds me of him a lot, the workaholic type of a man. He's just like my dad, althought I hope he's not, because my dad and I keep fighting all the time.

When we first met, he always offered to help me with my studies, as him and I are in the same field. And he's offering to help me with work now. I just graduated and I'm struggling a bit to adjust with the new everything.

I'd love to hear your thoughts about our synastry. I don't have his TOB, so I'm the inside chart.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/wRV2WrzR/Screen-Shot-2019-09-18-at-8-33-08-PM.png[/img]

List of aspects :
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/MnbB1BWX/Screen-Shot-2019-09-18-at-8-47-53-PM.png[/img]

Thank you <3

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Stoika7
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posted September 18, 2019 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi itsmeyaz,
it seems you have sympathy for him and there's a good mental/intellectual exchange. He might actually have "teaching" skills and he looks sincerely willing to help/support you, even though he feels a chemistry with you. His Chiron conjunct your Sun + your Jupiter on his Sun might give him the feeling that you can shed a positive, warm light to his life. But your Sun (conjunct his Chiron) is square to his Moon/SN and opposite to his Saturn, so yes, this looks like energy/emotionally draining on the long run... Your Saturn square to his Neptune is a tough aspect that might become painful for him as a "reality check" might give him some disappointment or would not match his expectations. You might be attracted by such relationship but I dont see you being too emotionally/romantically involved...? A Composite might say more, as usual.

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itsmeyaz
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posted September 19, 2019 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi itsmeyaz,
it seems you have sympathy for him and there's a good mental/intellectual exchange. He might actually have "teaching" skills and he looks sincerely willing to help/support you, even though he feels a chemistry with you. His Chiron conjunct your Sun + your Jupiter on his Sun might give him the feeling that you can shed a positive, warm light to his life. But your Sun (conjunct his Chiron) is square to his Moon/SN and opposite to his Saturn, so yes, this looks like energy/emotionally draining on the long run... Your Saturn square to his Neptune is a tough aspect that might become painful for him as a "reality check" might give him some disappointment or would not match his expectations. You might be attracted by such relationship but I dont see you being too emotionally/romantically involved...? A Composite might say more, as usual.

Hello Stoika, thank you for taking time to reply to my thread.
I don't really know him yet to develop an emotional bond with him, but I do sympathize with him. Because he seems to have lived/is living a tough life.

But on the other hand, I usually find myself developing a liking/bond with men that are smart, and he's pretty smart. But I'm not sure still. We barely talked once or twice. I wasn't going to answer his text at first, and then I found myself replying and I Lol'ed!

When we talked back in 2018, he told me he was in some trouble for gambling or something like that, I don't remember if it was him that was involved or someone close to him. And he got into trouble because of it (just like my dad lol). And that reality check aspect you talked about, did manifest. I remember telling him that he needs to get his $hit together, and now he said after we met/talked, he felt like he needed to change his work place and take a mental retreat. Which he ended up doing. Now I suppose he's in a much better place work & brain wise.

I don't have his TOB, so I don't know how accurate a composite chart would be, but here it is :

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/r00bNwWH/Screen-Shot-2019-09-19-at-11-51-58-AM.png[/img]

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itsmeyaz
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posted September 19, 2019 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And sorry, I meant @Hikaru!

Apologies.

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Stoika7
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posted September 19, 2019 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, sorry I forgot about the missing TOB, but Todd might certainly help with the Composite without ASC and houses!
You actually have a comp. stellium so there might be a sincere affection even though you might have different purposes/expectations from the relationship, the Saturn/Chiron-Moon/Pluto t-square suggests you might really hit his most sensitive issues and this aspect might have a big life-changing impact on him. I couldn't find a specific aspect related to his gambling issues in his natal, cept for the Jupiter square to Sun in Capricorn (I would expect Pluto, and Neptune to be involved against Jupiter or Venus), so it might involve houses or other elements we dont have. The familiarity you find with your father might be shown by the Saturn opposite Sun and the Composite SN in Cancer, which might add a very familiar feeling and closeness.

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posted September 21, 2019 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 21, 2019 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, sorry I forgot about the missing TOB, but Todd might certainly help with the Composite without ASC and houses!
You actually have a comp. stellium so there might be a sincere affection even though you might have different purposes/expectations from the relationship, the Saturn/Chiron-Moon/Pluto t-square suggests you might really hit his most sensitive issues and this aspect might have a big life-changing impact on him. I couldn't find a specific aspect related to his gambling issues in his natal, cept for the Jupiter square to Sun in Capricorn (I would expect Pluto, and Neptune to be involved against Jupiter or Venus), so it might involve houses or other elements we dont have. The familiarity you find with your father might be shown by the Saturn opposite Sun and the Composite SN in Cancer, which might add a very familiar feeling and closeness.

I'll try to ask him about his TOB. Thank you stoika! I hope todd sees this too

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posted September 21, 2019 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi itsmeyaz

with a natal and unknown TOB the moon can vary by about 12 degrees. in a composite with unknown TOBs the moon can vary 6 degrees. but if you know one TOB in the composite then the moon can vary only 3 degrees . if you place the unknown TOB at noon then the resulting composite moon can only be +/- 1.5 degree off the resulting position which is usually sufficient to draw interpretations from.

in this composite the moon is opposed to Saturn and square to pluto which is overall very unfavorable as emotional connections are stunted and really feeling held back.

as moon and Saturn are primary symbols of compatibility... this is a very unfavorable aspect. this would mirror the bad relationship with your father.

in addition the mercury/node midpoint is conjunct to Saturn and opposed to the moon wh9ich makes the mental tensions more acute. mercury square to the node by itself gives a psychic connection in a composite but here the experience of this connection is probably blocked out by the underlying emotional repression. though your feelings about him are in fact true. so don't second doubt yourself if you feel something is not right with him.

the tsquare of mars/Jupiter/pallas clearly shows that the relationship empowers your professional life but I would be cautions because venus is square to the Uranus/Neptune conjunction. this is extremely sexual/emotionally attractive but with eris conjunct to venus, this attraction is only sexual and not permanent. this is a very wanton aspect and indicates that his help will come at a sexual cost and the relationship will not develop into anything other that a carnal connection.

the eros/psyche midpoint is opposed to the sun and the venus/juno midpoint is conjunct the sun. this gives a very romantic, idealized sense that a serious relationship could develop. with ceres conjunct the node,there is an aura of nurturing and support elicited .

but the real emotional needs are sexual and not emotional so I would think it would be difficult to accept his help without giving up your self esteem.

todd

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posted September 25, 2019 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:

but the real emotional needs are sexual and not emotional so I would think it would be difficult to accept his help without giving up your self esteem.

todd


Thank you for taking off your time to reply, todd!

I will keep this in mind. Many of the things you mentioned are spot on. So I will be cautious.
I don't actually mind walking away, because I don't even like him, I'm interested in creating a professional bond, not an emotional one. Because he exhibts many traits that I find to be a huge turn off, except for him being smart. And it still won't compensate.
I do appreciate him helping me, but it will not come at cost of my self esteem or anything of that sort. He can keep his help to himself.

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