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Topic: North/South Node contacts in Synastry
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 06, 2020 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaCNO5XgxVQ&t=395s I believe this is based on vedic as Pluto/Uranus/Neptune weren't mention. So apparently not all conjunctions to North Node are good. Malefic (Saturn/Mars) planets to South Node are actually better since NN is what we grow towards and SN is what we gradually move away from (contrary to what I've read about Saturn-SN). NN feelings tend to grow over time while SN feelings tend to fade over time. Also, it is not necessary for them to be conjunct. What matters is they must be in the same sign. What she didn't address is the square aspect. Can it be interpreted the same as conjunct to SN? Also, can these be interpreted the same in Composite?
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sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 06, 2020 11:56 AM
I love nodes in synastry! Thank you for starting this topic. Wouldn't a square to one also be a square to the other? IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 06, 2020 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by sashavittoria: Wouldn't a square to one also be a square to the other?
Yes! The planet will square both nodes which on cafeastrology (I was reading up on Saturn square Nodes) it says the square is similar to the conjunction to SN, which is negative. But this astrologer said that Saturn conjunct SN is positive as Saturn is a malefic so ideally we want its effect to dim over time.
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sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 06, 2020 12:34 PM
Thank you! I definitely see the logic in what she is saying... You can escape malefics on your SN. I can see how they can be good on the NN (Mars spurring action towards NN, Saturn providing structure for it), but not in a square. I would imagine that malefics on the SN are difficult but, once you break free, you REALLY break free, especially from Saturn. I look forward to more expert opinions than mine...IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 06, 2020 01:04 PM
What she's saying is Saturn/Mars in the same sign as the partner's SN is better, and it's also better for woman's Sun to be in the same sign as man's SN rather than his NN. In conclusion, not all conjunctions to NN are good and not all to SN are bad. Like I said, I believe she's using vedic methods, and I like how she explains each, rather than a lot of textbook interpretations just say "SN person feels held back..." which is like so generic and means nothing.IP: Logged |
sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 07, 2020 05:56 PM
Hikaru, did you try posting this to the Vedic forum? They might have greater insight!IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 09, 2020 05:07 AM
No, I didn't... since I thought this is about Synastry. I might though!IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2613 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 09, 2020 03:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: What matters is they must be in the same sign
I'll watch the vid, but do you mean same sign wide AF is ok? lol. E.g. my NN 3libra, his sun 11 libra. My moon 1 vir, his NN 26 vir. Does this count? IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 68 From: - Registered: Jun 2020
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posted June 09, 2020 04:19 PM
I have Saturn squares, conjunction or opposition to south/north node with everyone in my family and a few friends - my grandmother and grandfather, my father, my mother.With my grandmother - saturn square each other, nodes square each other, and saturn square the nodes DW. I haven't met her. She died before I was born. With my father - My Saturn and Jupiter square his nodes With my mother - Our Saturns and Jupiter square each other and her Saturn and Jupiter square my nodes With my grandfather - His Saturn conjunct my NN With a few friends that are born in 1990, I conjunct their NN with Saturn and they conjunct my NN with their Saturn - It is really nice to have Saturn conjunct with NN with friends... feels like with them you are on the right road. They give you hints. Which they probably aren't aware of. I haven't had it in romantic relationships. With the square feels like you want to help the person but you don't know how. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 12, 2020 09:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: I'll watch the vid, but do you mean same sign wide AF is ok? lol. E.g. my NN 3libra, his sun 11 libra. My moon 1 vir, his NN 26 vir. Does this count?
Yes, wide AF is fine, lol. What matters is they're in the same sign. I clarified this with the astrologer and she confirmed it. Which means to say... different sign conjunctions don't counted. Your NN - his Sun His NN - your Moon These 2 are excellent combinations! It won't be good if it was the other way around, according to this astrologer, because Sun is masculine and Moon is feminine. IP: Logged |
Cappyshroom23 Newflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted June 12, 2020 11:45 AM
I’m not sure about the “malefic” planet belief in Vedic. There is a kernel of truth but maybe something is lost in interpretation and depends how someone uses the energies of Saturn and mars. In interpreting that Saturn or mars is “bad” depending on which node it is conjunct in synastry needs to have the flexibility to interpret on a personal level. I have had NN conjunct mars and it was a very fated soul connection, we also had Uranus conjunct SN. Another very strong connection was a sun conjunct NN. I was in love at first sight with both these men. The second one also had his Venus conjunct his NN which was also cinjunct my sun which must also increase the intensity. I have also had Venus conjunct NN and I didn’t feel that it was a deep soul connection but was likely fated and meant to be for a time but not necessarily less time than the mars NN conjunction which has a traditional interpretation as “bad”. Overtime the NN conjunct Venus did fade over time. It also wasn’t an overly intense connection but was enjoyable until it just faded and was t anymore. There’s no set rules that will always play out a certain way just because there’s a “positive” NN connection doesn’t always means it grows overtime and a SN fades. I’m speaking from personal experience that hasn’t been the case for me. The cook book answers need to be taken with a grain of salt and personalized looking at both charts etc. I have also found in my personal experience that the orbs to the conjunctions were 4-6 degrees at the most. I’m not sure really wide orbs in the the same sign is enough for fated encounters and if your using Vedic then the signs change at 23 degrees. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2682 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted June 13, 2020 04:12 AM
^ Similarly, I had NN conjunct Sun at 1° with my ex and the rs turned out like crap. A lot of other aspects have to be taken into consideration. Rs success doesn't depend on just Nodes. Like you said, cookbook answers have to be taken with a grain of salt. Cookbook always says 'must be within conjunction' so it doesn't make sense why the rs with my ex turned out so bad. With my current guy, my NN is in the same sign as his ASC (not conjunct) and I'm way more drawn to set up life with him than I ever was towards my ex. My sis-in-law's NN is in the same sign as my brother's ASC. She went against her religious beliefs to marry my brother and even moved abroad with him. My friend also has her NN in the same sign as her partner's ASC. Despite the dissatisfaction she has towards the rs, she didn't give him up. Not saying this is all NN-ASC's credit but this shows that what the astrologer said is worthy of consideration. Btw, the so-called malefic is not all bad, e.g. they consider Saturn in 7H a good thing. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 128703 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 948 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted July 06, 2020 03:32 PM
Like Cappyshroom23, I dont agree much with this astrologer... it depends on how the planets are aspected. For instance, if you have a Saturn trine Moon or Venus, the North node conjuntion will empower the trine, so that is a strong committment aspect. The South Node to saturn might suggest a separation at one point though. Same as Mars, if Mars is well aspected, the conjunction with the North Node is excellent and gives a strong destiny and drive to the relationship. If you have Mars square Pluto though, with North Node conjunct Mars, issues and conflicts will arise. Then there might be different meanings depending on the planet. Neptune conjunct or square to both North Node or South node might suggest strong idecisiveness, platonic love or separation. IP: Logged |