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HieronymusTush
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posted June 12, 2020 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope everyone is excellent!

Just met someone, so not a relationship, just a mere date, light flirting - so no composite, but what do you think? It feels so weird, their entire lifestyle is quite different to mine, in a way, but they feel very strangely familiar! What do you see - worth putting time and effort into? How do you like the chances? What do you think about the nodes?

Any observations welcome!

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posted June 12, 2020 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the aspect chart:

I find nodal contacts in synastry to be extremely significant in my personal history, and they have always been so spot on with my experience, sooner or later. I have never had a romantic experience with north node conjunct synastry since an extremely important relationship when I was much younger which had NN conj their Venus exact.
That relationship really didn't have much romance in the way of house overlay or aspects other than some Plutonic undertones, yet lasted for seven years which I'm honestly sure was centrally due to this NN contact. It was a bit like we were glued, with love and familiarity and responsibility, and no matter how much of a heartbreak it was in the end, or how incompatible our aspects were to begin with, it materialized in such a dramatically familial, subconsciously magnetic way. It was like he always took me where I needed to be, or needed me by his side up until a point. It's hard to describe. I also feel this with two NN contact friends, it's like our paths always magically intertwine. Anyway, so seeing this synastry now, it freaked me out a tiny bit to see this many NN contacts, maybe memories of the heartbreak of that breakup and remembering how hard it was to let go? I'd really rather not get into this at all if it looks super karmic super heavy, laden with debts and such! You know?

Anyway... Please let me know what you think.

By the way, the last time I asked your help, especially the comments of todd and Stoika saved a good 6-7 months of incredibly annoying potential back and forth - what you said fit what was happening in front of me to a T, so I swiftly phased them out of my life. This is to say you guys absolutely unequivocally rock!

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posted June 13, 2020 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted June 13, 2020 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AWWWW.... Big Heart to you and so good to hear from you again!

WOW, the nodal contacts in synastry on the axis is very special, this person may really turn your life upside down, with his saturn square to your Sun/MC/SN it's all a big question mark though, he might pose a lot of challenging question to your life as you know it up to now, about yourself, your own individual structure, so it looks somehow all very new and refreshing but also a bit scaring cause triggering incertainties, the Kite with Pluto, Saturn, Moon, Jupiter, Mars is so full of good energies and emotions, but there are other concerning aspects, Mars versus Chiron, Pluto opposite Moon/Chiron, Mars square to Uranus, Neptune opposite Chiron and Mars opposite Saturn, the Kite can mitigate some of these such as the Mars/Saturn frustrating aspect, and the Grand Trine with Saturn/Saturn/Venus is also supportive for commitment, but there's also a tension, the feeling that something in your personalities doesn't match as much as the powerful feelings might suggest... The Chiron/Moon square to Mars and opposite to Uranus/Pluto might become a roller coaster of intense feelings... but please let me check the Composite to better understand in what direction this all might potentially play out, it looks very intense and fated!

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posted June 13, 2020 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stoika! I don't know if this will sound funny but I missed your words so much - I sincerely hope all this finds you well, and that you are in excellent spirits.

I think you might be dead on about personality differences, Stoika, as I don't think I'm anything like the women he's usually interested in (I sense he likes very traditionally polished women) but somehow he seems very interested in me. And I can't explain it, but although much of the way he goes about flirting feels very foreign to me, he himself feels very familiar.

I don't want to say more because I really don't know him that well, but the extent I got to know felt both foreign and weirdly nice. He seems to be somewhat intensely interested up until now, but I'm not sure what he sees in me or that he understands what he sees correctly. I wonder if we are emotionally compatible, and upon seeing the nodal contacts I couldn't help but think "OK - time to converse with the gods , this situation looks potentially loaded"

Here is the composite, but as I said, we have only been communicating very recently so definitely not a relationship.


Dying to know what you think! Much love!

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posted June 13, 2020 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think that what you describe is very visible from the synastry, the emotional side despite those differences is terribly intense, his Chiron/Moon in your 4th house opposite your Pluto is very transformative at inner subconscious level, such an intesne familiar feeling is there at instant intimacy, with this square to Mars though it all becomes like trying to walk on eggshells or a minefield, this might be balanced by your Moon conjunct to his Jupiter opposite your Saturn so an harmony can be found and there's a wishful thinking in making things work out, but then you also have Chiron opposite his Neptune, and this is an harsh aspect that might throw you in big confusion about your real feelings and also a costant questioning of YOURSELF in trying to find that balance and trust towards his real personality and attitudes...

BUT actually the Composite looks quite powerful again!

The nodes on the MC/IC axis, as expected, show a very fated meeting which is enhanced by the Pluto square, adding a big transformative potential to the relationship which is though released as being facing a huge ZEN wall where you stay there with one only question: how do I break through this? What am I supposed to change in my life to make this wall disappear? But you may feel that Pluto square to North Node/MC is a transformative force out of your control, like if destiny is pulling you there and the only thing you can do is to accept it and understand that it was your subconscious to lead you to this fate !

So this is why I said that this may turn your life upside down... here you also have a Grand Kite with Sun/Saturn/Lilith/Venus, which is very intruiguing and bounding in a deep loving way, so again an harmonic formation suggesting that a underlying balance and bond is there, even though with Jupiter square the Venus-NN midpoint/MC/IC and opposite Pluto there is again a big element of incertainty given from that diversity you perceive, different styles, attitudes, values, ambitions, maybe also earthly direction and goals are somehow weirdely in contraddiction with the powerful destiny that seemed to bring you together... actually this Jupiter is the most visible front side of that wall while Pluto is in the back... The front side might have to do with your individual professions, for instance, which might hinder something here.

But again the Chiron/Moon trine to North Node/MC looks like an intense emotional world where you meet and your deepest hearts may tell you that no matter the wall, you want to go for it !

the Saturn/Vertex/DSC is a concern in this picture, cause it gives strong feelings of belonging together but at the same time Vertex might give the illusion of the real possibility for a real ground to express that bond and intense feelings...

So my friend I am very puzzled about all this, it looks having a lot to do with destiny and subonscious dynamics leading to a deep personal transformation, but Jupiter against MC/IC is a big question mark in terms of stability, and the Vertex seems to signal to keep a realistic view about such a strong fated draw given by the Nodes and Pluto.

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posted June 13, 2020 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you Stoika! It's so hard to say - and the newness does not help!

Something about all this really makes me want to lead very slowly. He has talked a lot about the future (for example, he is looking into making a house for himself in my family's hometown which I moved from when I was about 4, which shocked me tbh, because it's such a weird choice considering how off the chart it is from where he is originally from / the location) and if anything, the way he set up his life is exactly like how I would like mine to be, if I could ever make the necessary professional adjustments.

Something about him really reminds me of my family, or I feel that he would perhaps fit in perfectly with my family, whom I love dearly, but from whom I diverge with style/some values. I don't not like him, in fact I actually might kind of like him, I just feel like he is going to suck me up in a vacuum! (I think I'm beginning to really recognize my commitment fears and issues, by the way - so I think I would tend to feel a bit like this with anyone who I could be with easily and not under impossible circumstances, you know)

I feel like he would potentially make a solid partner in theory, but whether I would fit with him, I'm not sure. Also, can you see any reason why he could be seeing me as a solid partner? Is it his 4,5,7 cusps that mirror my sun, venus, asc?

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posted June 13, 2020 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With his North Node on your MC/Sun and his South Node on your IC, and his Moon/Chiron on your 4th opposite his Pluto on his 4th he may feel terribly familiar with you istantly, no matter the apparent diversity, at core level and at subconscious level... he may instantly feel a stable bond with you, also cause of the saturn, saturn, venus trine, and with his Neptune in 5th conjunct your Juno trine his venus/Mars/MC in his 9th and his Juno conjunct your Mercury in his 5th opposite his Sun in your 5th and his 11th, he may feel terribly attracted to you as an ideal woman cause of the instant familiarity and affection and also playful friendly exchange in which that diversity he finds in you is actually something he wants to explore, also his Chiron/Moon in your 4th is trine to your Neptune/ASC, so again a strong familiar feeling he's subconsciously emotionally drawn to.

I think it's very interesting that you also find such familiar feeling and "ideal" figure and projects of his while you see differences at the same time along with other familiar aspects you dont feel comfortable with as you describe about your family... this is exactly the contradiction (one of many) that Composite Pluto square to MC might pose here. And also the overall feeling that "I just feel like he is going to suck me up in a vacuum! "

So you don't like him? Do you mean that you dont feel a chemistry at romantic level? This is possible cause he doesnt hit your 7th house, the houses overlays point more to the 4th, the 11th, MC/IC, so very strong familiar feelings, even though most aspects suggest also powerful emotions, and Composite Pluto is in the 7th.

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posted June 13, 2020 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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So you don't like him? Do you mean that you dont feel a chemistry at romantic level? This is possible cause he doesnt hit your 7th house, the houses overlays point more to the 4th, the 11th, MC/IC, so very strong familiar feelings, even though most aspects suggest also powerful emotions, and Composite Pluto is in the 7th.

Stoika, I think he is attractive & funny (though not in the way I am familiar with!). I have found I go a little bit nuts and giggly when people hit my 5th - It just evokes this soda pop effect I like, so it’s nice. what I’ve known so far (he is incredibly talkative and told me so much about his past life, you wouldn’t believe it) evokes some sort of respect and trust also, in theory, but I have never ever ever dated anyone with his sort of stable, high-status job! It’s the kind of thing I have actively avoided due to my family really valuing that flavor of life - I have usually gone for vagabonds, artists, wild cards! So something about this throws me off, and I cannot really fathom what sort of balance would be even required of me to integrate this into my life, if at all. I like being in contact with someone who has their s—t together - so it’s nice to hear that he identifies some partner potential in me and it makes astrological sense that he should be interested. It’s not a case of out of one’s league or that sort of evaluation, it’s maybe rather a matter of taste/lifestyle? Your reading of how he views me goes a long way. Thank you so much.

As I said, it’s nice, we laugh and talk a lot - but there is a kind of pull attached to it that makes me go uh-oh, this is going to take me somewhere completely unknown if I let it. As you have seen here.

I will keep reporting. Please let me know if anything else strikes you as worthy of note, and please everyone else feel free to chime in. These are wonderful thought exercises for me, and they bring a lot of insight and peace.

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posted June 13, 2020 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I perfectly understand what you mean (I also, like you, always with artists and wild cards, LOL) and this makes sense with those Jupiter hard aspects, especially in composite, and at the same time it seems to me that also that feeling of unknown and subconscious familiar draw is there despite that completely different direction you perceive in your lives, and that I think is the Composite Pluto square MC giving a potential transformative feeling and a block at the same time (which, with Pluto, come always along with subconscious fears!)...

Yes of course give me updates if there are any!

Lots of hugs!!! ❤️

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posted June 15, 2020 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Stoika! <3<3<3 And also, only if you had the time, Stoika, do you think you could take a look at his individual aspects to comment on his love/commitment nature?

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posted June 15, 2020 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 15, 2020 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:

And also, only if you had the time, Stoika, do you think you could take a look at his individual aspects to comment on his love/commitment nature?

I think he might have a very clear idea of what he looks for in a partner, and I think he likes women that are very passionate and loyal at the same time, he wants a very honest and open relationship, I don't think he would compromise about this... once he committs, he really does and wants to see that this is mutual, he would not like to feel uncertainties from his partner about this, otherwise he's not committing or he's not going to take it seriously. He's very sensitive and wants to feel supported by his partner as much as he would support her, and he can be also extremely generous. Maybe he's a little black and white about this so it might be hard for him to find a stable relationship, unless everything is almost perfect. But if he finds that those main points are there, loyality, support, sharing, shared plans and passion and clearity of the direction of the relationship, he's going to compromise about pretty much everything else :-D

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posted June 20, 2020 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Stoika! I'll keep updating - I'll possibly see this person again in the next week. I'm actually surprised about how excited I am about seeing them, as I said, they are nothing like my usual type. It's like they evoke this sort of joy and understanding in me. Wish me luck! <3

Anyone else with other insights? Do you like what you see in the charts? I'd really appreciate it!

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posted June 25, 2020 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 28, 2020 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok - the talking and the flirting continues. I think I may be beginning to like this person. Something about them makes me feel like they care in a very stable sort of way, and this is exactly the kind of light and steady sort of attention I need right now. I too find myself wondering about their day.

So... I will see them again in a few days in another city. Can anyone comment on the physical chemistry and sexuality? Please let me know what you see!

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posted June 29, 2020 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump bump! I'll feel much better about what to possibly expect about my above question prior to meeting again. I'd really appreciate your insights, guys. XXX

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posted June 29, 2020 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can anyone comment on the physical chemistry and sexuality? Please let me know what you see!

Composite Uranus/Juno is sextile Venus, so there's spark and excitement, the Uranus/Juno in 8th house is intriguing as if it all is new but at ease at the same time. Venus is also trine to Chiron/Vesta, this is a potential deep intimacy at sexual level. Then Mars is square Lilith, this is a very hot aspect, it carries a sense of mystery and of being involved in an affair, a forbidden fruit somehow... but Lilith has also to do with a subconscious sexual drive.
To me, it doesn't look like an immediate sexual attraction, more of a subtle intruiguing approach that can turn out surprisingly engaging and develope in a deeper intimacy...
Composite Moon is in taurus 2nd house, very physical!
In synastry, btw, your Pluto (in Scorpio...!) is opposite his Moon/Chiron (in Taurus!), and his Moon is trine your Pluto, so there's definitely a sexual drive and chemistry which might become quite overwhelming and potentially binding.

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posted July 02, 2020 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Composite Moon is in taurus 2nd house, very physical!
In synastry, btw, your Pluto (in Scorpio...!) is opposite his Moon/Chiron (in Taurus!), and his Moon is trine your Pluto, so there's definitely a sexual drive and chemistry which might become quite overwhelming and potentially binding.

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Dear Stoika <3 thank you so much for your time and attention in giving me these readings. I would like to give you some feedback. I saw them again tonight for the second time. It’s so strange, Stoika, but it was so tender and comfortable, and it was as if we were repeating touches although they were for the first time. Maybe it’s all this 4th house stuff? But there was a lot of excitement and laughter too. Tbh, I found myself a little shaken about the strength of the sensations and feelings I was experiencing, even when it was a small hug, you know? There was a lot of talk about the past, past experiences and relationships, and they were soooo courtly and nice to me. I don’t even know if there is long term potential here (what do you think?) but I think I could see some serious tenderness building up here.

After the last few experiences and the last big relationship I had, all of this felt like such a welcome change, no matter what it ends up becoming. Right now, everything I’ve seen tonight is a reserved -as is my character, a little bit- but big yes. Wow. How safe and lovely was that! It was very unusual for me. I am very surprised.

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posted July 03, 2020 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi darling, I think that such intensity is given by the Moon, Pluto and Chiron aspects in synastry, then in Composite you have Uranus/Juno sextile Venus, this gives excitement, and Saturn/Vertex/Asc gives a lot of familiar feeling, dejà-vù, the feeling of knowing the pèrson already, and with this trine to Mercury there's a strong past connection and sharing past experiences... Composite nodes on the axis also gives a deep fated feelings...

You may pull out a multi-composite chart using the date of the meeting as the event, and the birth data for the other two people, so that I can check how the meeting was experienced and how things might develope, if you like.

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posted July 03, 2020 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow! I hope you're having a lovely Friday so far. (What was your sun, asc and moon, Stoika? Just so I have some idea of you in my mind I've never done the multi composite - I usually look at transits around the composite -if there's a definite dynamic that can now count as, you know, some sort of relationship-.

He's been in touch today as well, so I gather things went well for him as well. Let's see what you see in this multi-composite.


V exciting, and as always, thank you so much.

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posted July 03, 2020 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow... this is interesting :-)

Saturn is conjunct MC exactly, this signals that a bond is established, potentially long term!
The Chiron/Venus midpoint is exactly conjunct Moon and sextile to Mercury/North Node, so there seems to be an immediate intimacy and excitement at communication level, north node/mercury is in the 5th house, so it all was playful, and with the Moon in 2nd house/Taurus, the exchange triggered emotions and developed closeness. Chiron is opposite Juno and Pluto is opposite Lilith, so an underlying chemistry and an unexpressed sexual drive was there.
The Kite formed by the Sun/Neptune opposition and the Mars/Jupiter and Juno Grand Trine suggests he's completely fascinated by you, enjoys your company a lot, and an infatuation is highly possible, Mars square Uranus and Mercury/North Node looks like there was a strong intellettual harmony in your exchange, reading each other's mind, but also some anxiety... Jupiter square Mercury/North Node suggests that not all feelings were expressed in the open, maybe there was an attempt to keep the axiety under control, trying to act cool, but with the North Node involved you both might have sensed the other's inquietude... Chiron square to the ASC/DSC axis gives me the feeling that it is difficult for both to picture where your meeting is heading to, there's some core insecurity about some apparent differences between you which you might not have clear at this moment.
The Pluto/Mars-Jupiter/Sun Grand Trine is very powerful, signals a strong compatibility at existencial level, shared views and attitudes about life in phylosophical and material matters, potential shared future projects, mutual support, and also a strong sexual and familiar vibe is there again.

What to say my friend... this all looks very promising 😍

...and wow, he's been in touch so soon again ??
Look... He's a Taurus, Cancer ASC, his Leo Saturn is trine to his Venus/Mars/MC... no way. A Taurus does not get in touch so soon again if you're not completely sweeping them off their feet, believe me! 🙃⚡

I am an Aqua Sun/Venus 12th house, Pisces ASC and Taurus Moon, a rebel/anarchic dreamy and (secretely) romantic Aquarius 😂

Have a lovely Friday and weekend you too!!! ❤️❤️❤️

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posted July 03, 2020 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(in addition, his Venus/Mars/MC is in Aries... since he's a Taurus, he has to be really interested in someone before acting, but when he is, he acts right away!)

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posted July 03, 2020 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my! Sorry HieronymusTush, I just realized that the multi-composite chart is now different from the one I had just described... ?? did you change it for some reason or was I looking to a different chart ?!! 😱

Believe me I can't explain how this has happened!

I will look now at this one I see now! If it was my mistake, please forgive!!!

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Oh my! Sorry HieronymusTush, I just realized that the multi-composite chart is now different from the one I had just described... ?? did you change it for some reason or was I looking to a different chart ?!! 😱

Believe me I can't explain how this has happened!

I will look now at this one I see now! If it was my mistake, please forgive!!!


Stoika - the first one was with reference Place method, and this is the midpoint method. Which one would be correct? I’m not sure about the difference but I assumed you would want the midpoint one since that’s what I post with normal composites... Was I right?? Let me know and I’ll post again if need be?

Reading all you’ve written now! Btw what you say About the first chart describes everything to a T. Down to the weird anxiety and shyness about being too forward and appearing silly. And a little bit shaken about how easy and smooth everything felt? I am trying to pace my excitement!

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