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winnertivanigrace
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posted September 10, 2020 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what placement in natal for guy who likes Hot-Tempered Woman?

I realize that I have bad afflicted mars

Sun Square Mars 6°
Mars Opposite Pluto 6°
Moon trine Mars 8°

and with my sun and mercury in Leo, I found myself too strong for men.

Altough i have many attractive aspects in natal like : Pisces Ascendant, Sun Conjunct Jupiter, Jupiter trine Ascendant, Pluto trine Ascendant, chiron trine ascendant, venus opposite Uranus, Venus sextile Mars, Venus trine Pluto, Moon sextile pluto, Venus opposite neptune.

So, guys are crazy about me at first, then when we get closer and they found out about those afflicted mars in me, they run away. Its so frustating.

Who can handle me?

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posted September 10, 2020 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in the same boat as you - sun and moon are conjunct and both square mars, mars opposite Pluto, stellium in Leo in first house with Aries MC and Aqua DC. But Venus conjunct ASC, Virgo mercury trine Saturn and sextile Chiron, and Taurus Mars kind of cover up all of the more masculine strong aspects in my chart. And same happens when they see those aspects come out. Not sure what kind of guy can handle that? Maybe someone with Aries placements or similar aspects in their own chart? I’m curious to see what others say.

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posted September 10, 2020 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will say I felt most myself and comfortable with a guy with Aqua, Aries and Capricorn in his chart so maybe something similar for you?

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posted September 10, 2020 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider myself one also... I can be pretty temperamental, hot headed, impulsive, passionate about things...

Pluto conjunct ASC
Mars conjunct ASC
Mars conjunct Pluto
Moon conjunct ASC
Moon conjunct Mars
Moon conjunct Pluto
(All in Scorpio)

My longest relationship was with a Sag Sun, Aries Moon and Mars, Cap Mercury, Sag Venus guy...he had a hard time "handling" me also though... but we had some years together..it wasn't a good rs and I wouldn't want this for myself again.

It's tough because I don't want the man to be too much of a softy either, letting me have things my way because if I lose respect for him, it'll also kill the attraction...but same time I don't want him to be unkind/cruel or not have compassion towards me...

I just had a conversation about this with someone today.. I think he should be soft where it counts and strong/stable where it counts...I am also wondering what kind of placements would that be...🤔

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posted September 11, 2020 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra guys!
Find a Libra lol


Libra is very compatible with your Leo planets and they are usually feminists so they’re all for girl power.

They are also not pushovers like some Cancers can be. They can stand up for themselves and love a good debate.. or even argument... Even better if they have Leo or Scorpio planets.. They can be very passionate people, but still have that air sign reasonableness about them.

Cancer is another Leo-groupie though lol

No one loves Leos like Cancers love Leos 😁
The only issue here would be if you feel like they rain on your parade sometimes... not as upbeat as you are...


Btw I have Aries Sun squaring Cap Mars.. ‘nough said haha Totally relate to this thread!

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posted September 11, 2020 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone with mars in their 7th house or conjunct DSC.
Venus in Aries, Venus in Scorpio etc.....lots of things. But I don’t think this is an astrology issue or question as much as it should be a personal one.
You shouldn’t try find someone who tolerates your toxic traits but rather someone who is patient, understanding and wants to help you change and work through them, together.

But what do you mean by “too much” though? You’re too emotional? Impulsive? Reactive? Jealous? Clingy? Bossy? Controlling? Aggressive? If so, you’re the issue and you’re going to keep repeating the same patterns in your relationships until you fix these things. Work on yourself and healing before trying to find someone. The reason you are like this is probably an attachment style issue or traumas that messed up your mental and/or emotional health causing you to behave or react badly. Figure out what triggers you, where these stems from and fix that. Do the hard work. Then you’ll be rewarded with being able to find and keep a healthy partner once you yourself are one too. Because nobody in their healthy, mature, well adjusted mind wants someone who’s chaotic and drama all the time. It’s stressful and toxic. So if they do, they have issues of their own and they aren’t going to be good partners either and it won’t be a good relationship.
All the best! ❤️❤️ Good luck and I know you can do it!

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posted September 11, 2020 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on Sun and Moon House and Sign. Stellium in Leo and Venus conjunct ASC resonate. I have Sun and Mercury in Aries, Leo stellium and Mars rising, Mercury trine Saturn, 5H Capricorn Vertex.

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posted September 11, 2020 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MMarie:
I will say I felt most myself and comfortable with a guy with Aqua, Aries and Capricorn in his chart so maybe something similar for you?

I have never met Aqua and Capricorn guy.
But I always attract aries guys. Either their sun or moon in aries. I think my afflicted mars attract them a lot 😀

My exes are aries sun pisces moon and cancer sun aries moon. I got some guys chasing me with aries moon. I think aries moon could handle me more than Aries sun. It might be because Moon is the feeling. So, they might be tough enough handling me lol

Capricorn Sun with Aries Moon or Libra Sun with aries moon would do better i guess. Lets find them 😆

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posted September 11, 2020 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saggy7:
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I just had a conversation about this with someone today.. I think he should be soft where it counts and strong/stable where it counts...I am also wondering what kind of placements would that be...🤔


LoL this is what I have always thought. I am thinking of sun in feminine sign and moon in masculine sign? or vice versa.So they have both of the qualities.

If its too soft, It can kill the attraction. Our afflicted mars make us need those strong passionate guys.

I fell in love with moon trine venus placement in guys. That means I love the softness and charming in guys, but i want them to be strong enough to be protective as well. Sometimes I want possesiveness as well. and I want them kinda control me 😂😂

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posted September 11, 2020 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by winnertivanigrace:
I have never met Aqua and Capricorn guy.
But I always attract aries guys. Either their sun or moon in aries. I think my afflicted mars attract them a lot 😀

My exes are aries sun pisces moon and cancer sun aries moon. I got some guys chasing me with aries moon. I think aries moon could handle me more than Aries sun. It might be because Moon is the feeling. So, they might be tough enough handling me lol

Capricorn Sun with Aries Moon or Libra Sun with aries moon would do better i guess. Lets find them 😆


Yes let’s go find them!!! Haha

I think you would do great with a Capricorn guy and especially if they have Aries placements. The Capricorn would go well with your Scorpio placements and could possibly ground you or make you feel secure while the Aries gives a bit more passion and heat. I think you’d also do well with a Cap/ Aqua guy. Aqua and Sag to me are 2 peas in a pod. Maybe that’s why you haven’t found the guy yet because you’ve never met an Aqua or Cap guy! Haha 😆

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posted September 11, 2020 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thing with Aries men is that they often have Pisces in their chart also, which can make them too sensitive in my opinion (at least for my Sag Sun/Mercury)..and I am thinking maybe the same for your Leo Sun/Mercury..but depends, I am sure there are combos that can work depending on placements..

You have Pisces ASC, what sign are your Moon, Venus and Mars in?

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posted September 11, 2020 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Libra guys!
Find a Libra lol


Libra is very compatible with your Leo planets and they are usually feminists so they’re all for girl power.

They are also not pushovers like some Cancers can be. They can stand up for themselves and love a good debate.. or even argument... Even better if they have Leo or Scorpio planets.. They can be very passionate people, but still have that air sign reasonableness about them.

Cancer is another Leo-groupie though lol

No one loves Leos like Cancers love Leos 😁
The only issue here would be if you feel like they rain on your parade sometimes... not as upbeat as you are...


Btw I have Aries Sun squaring Cap Mars.. ‘nough said haha Totally relate to this thread!


I should have known astrology earlier!!!! 😂😂😂

There was one hot guy who kept chasing me for years since high school. My high school friend. I checked out his natal lately, he was libra sun aries moon. Might be the one I need!! But I ignored him since I thought he was a typical playboy guy. And actually it was because I was always running away from love when i was younger (my venus opposite uranus exact) why why.. He should find me again lol

My last BF was cancer sun aries moon. Yes I felt like he rains on my parade many times. His sulking and moody trait drives me crazyyy.


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posted September 11, 2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:

You shouldn’t try find someone who tolerates your toxic traits but rather someone who is patient, understanding and wants to help you change and work through them, together.

But what do you mean by “too much” though? You’re too emotional? Impulsive? Reactive? Jealous? Clingy? Bossy? Controlling? Aggressive? If so, you’re the issue and you’re going to keep repeating the same patterns in your relationships until you fix these things. Work on yourself and healing before trying to find someone. The reason you are like this is probably an attachment style issue or traumas that messed up your mental and/or emotional health causing you to behave or react badly. Figure out what triggers you, where these stems from and fix that. Do the hard work. Then you’ll be rewarded with being able to find and keep a healthy partner once you yourself are one too. Because nobody in their healthy, mature, well adjusted mind wants someone who’s chaotic and drama all the time. It’s stressful and toxic. So if they do, they have issues of their own and they aren’t going to be good partners either and it won’t be a good relationship.
All the best! ❤️❤️ Good luck and I know you can do it!


Thank you luna for your support!! ❤❤❤
I am working on these negative traits.
I got many traumas in my life i have been working on. They drive me crazy reallyyy lol.

I have been making effort. But sometimes once, twice in blue moon I explode because of work or other things in life. Everytime i explode, i end up being so depressed and regretting things why did i do this and that and say this and that... and I felt like I dont deserve anyone and i dont deserve being loved.

and after those things happened, if i still can see someone being there after seeing my negative trait, that is such a relief for me.
The feeling of " I'm still loved...even tought I showed my rage.. even tough I..."
those kind of feeling....


So, I really wonder.. what placement of natal in guy who is actually okay with me not being okay.. 😚😚😚😚

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posted September 11, 2020 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thing with Aries men is that they often have Pisces in their chart also, which can make them too sensitive in my opinion (at least for my Sag Sun/Mercury)..and I am thinking maybe the same for your Leo Sun/Mercury..but depends, I am sure there are combos that can work depending on placements..

You have Pisces ASC, what sign are your Moon, Venus and Mars in?


Thats true!! My ex was aries sun pisces moon. Well we had pluto square moon in synastry as well. so it was emotionally draining and I was always upset and jealous when i was with him. When I got mad, he couldnt handle me. I bet i scared him. he got hurt easily.

Moon : Virgo
Venus : Cancer
Mars : Taurus

What do you think?

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posted September 11, 2020 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im gonna take a shot here and say maybe a Cancer Sun, I think someone else said that also..with some earthy placements in the rest of the chart to match your Virgo Moon/Taurus Mars.. (Taurus or Cap)
Venus in Scorpio might be good also. If they care, they care deeply and they can handle a lot of passion/drama

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posted September 12, 2020 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saggy7:
Im gonna take a shot here and say maybe a Cancer Sun, I think someone else said that also..with some earthy placements in the rest of the chart to match your Virgo Moon/Taurus Mars.. (Taurus or Cap)
Venus in Scorpio might be good also. If they care, they care deeply and they can handle a lot of passion/drama


Mmm...Then... a guy with this placement might fit well

Cancer Sun
Aries Moon
Scorpio Venus
Leo Mercury
Capricorn/taurus Mars

where could i find him? 🤔

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posted September 12, 2020 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mmm...Then... a guy with this placement might fit well

Cancer Sun
Aries Moon
Scorpio Venus
Leo Mercury
Capricorn/taurus Mars

where could i find him? 🤔


Do your emotional needs really get fullfilled with a fire Moon? I do realize you have Leo placements in the rest of your chart, but for me personally Aries Moon was not a good match (I have a Scorpio Moon, probably a lot harder to please than a Virgo Moon emotionally)

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posted September 12, 2020 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do your emotional needs really get fullfilled with a fire Moon? I do realize you have Leo placements in the rest of your chart, but for me personally Aries Moon was not a good match (I have a Scorpio Moon, probably a lot harder to please than a Virgo Moon emotionally)


wow you're right. When i was with my ex who was aries moon, He didnt like it when i talked about feelings. He didnt like a crybaby. So, It was kinda missing in the relationship. But, yes i think my virgo moon doesnt really feel thing. I dont really show my emotion. I sometimes feel numb 😅 ,maybe because I have Moon trine saturn natal as well.

But dont you think this is the aspect that
can handle my "Hot-Tempered" thingy?

I realize, guys with this aspect (aries moon) tolerate my temper. He even loves it when I control others, when i debate a lot , when confront, When I am being strong willed. But, He doesnt like it if I control him. So, I am being submissive when i am with aries moon guy. Eventhough he has feminine sun like cancer.

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posted September 12, 2020 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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wow you're right. When i was with my ex who was aries moon, He didnt like it when i talked about feelings. He didnt like a crybaby. So, It was kinda missing in the relationship. But, yes i think my virgo moon doesnt really feel thing. I dont really show my emotion. I sometimes feel numb 😅 ,maybe because I have Moon trine saturn natal as well.

But dont you think this is the aspect that
can handle my "Hot-Tempered" thingy?

I realize, guys with this aspect (aries moon) tolerate my temper. He even loves it when I control others, when i debate a lot , when confront, When I am being strong willed. But, He doesnt like it if I control him. So, I am being submissive when i am with aries moon guy. Eventhough he has feminine sun like cancer.


My experience with an Aries Moon was bad. If I got angry, he would mostly shut down in the beginning, which would only make me even more angry and frustrated. If I got emotional, and he still ignores me, that would make me even more emotional and/or angry.
With time it got worse, he started to react negatively instead of just shutting down or difusing the situation (which he never did anyway) and that is how our arguments turned explosive. And even led to physical (not in a severe way, but still, any physical confrontation is bad)

But based on everything else you wrote, it might work for you. Especially if you are self aware about it and don't mind being submissive in order to keep the peace

Edit: I think in a sick way he enjoyed that he had the power to hurt my feelings and the worst part is that he enjoyed "torturing" emotionally/mentally basically anytime I would show vulnerability/weakness he would exploit it

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posted September 12, 2020 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 12, 2020 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My experience with an Aries Moon was bad. If I got angry, he would mostly shut down in the beginning, which would only make me even more angry and frustrated. If I got emotional, and he still ignores me, that would make me even more emotional and/or angry.
With time it got worse, he started to react negatively instead of just shutting down or difusing the situation (which he never did anyway) and that is how our arguments turned explosive. And even led to physical (not in a severe way, but still, any physical confrontation is bad)


What is his sun sign? is he the one with sag sun you mentioned above? Is it because of the the lack of water placement in his chart that makes him not able to handle your intensity? Yes, shutdown is aries moon thing. I experienced it as well. But, with his sun in cancer, mine was more tolerate with feeling i guess.
Mercury did help as well, since we had compatible mercury in Leo and Sun Conj Mercury exact in synastry. We broke up but remain friends til now.

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posted September 12, 2020 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is his sun sign? is he the one with sag sun you mentioned above? Is it because of the the lack of water placement in his chart that makes him not able to handle your intensity? Yes, shutdown is aries moon thing. I experienced it as well. But, with his sun in cancer, mine was more tolerate with feeling i guess.
Mercury did help as well, since we had compatible mercury in Leo and Sun Conj Mercury exact in synastry. We broke up but remain friends til now.

Yes, the Sag Sun. He doesn't have any personal planets in water, correct. Just fire and earth, and Gemini asc.

Also his Mercury is in Cap while mine is in Sag. He would come across way too strict/judgy/serious often, his Gemini asc would help here though to loosen him up

I would imagine Cancer Sun would be more receptive to displays of emotion and more compassionate, however I never dealt with one. And Mercury is super important definitely...I dated 2 men with whom I have square Mercuries..quite a challenge no matter how many other binding/loving/attraction aspects there are

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posted September 12, 2020 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for antiphon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every woman I’ve been in a relationship with has had a hot temper. I have a Leo descendant (aqua rising). Aquarians are egalitarian and don’t care about who is dominant or submissive.

I feel like Leo women often feel like they’re too much, so I’m not sure if your afflicted Mars is the problem. 6 degrees is on the wide side. If this is a problem in other parts of your life, then maybe it is here too, but I wonder if this is just part of the challenge of being a Leo woman.

Maybe you aren’t letting the Leo side of you shine, and the guys you’re dating are getting the wrong impression of who you are.

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posted September 13, 2020 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winnertivanigrace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe you aren’t letting the Leo side of you shine, and the guys you’re dating are getting the wrong impression of who you are.


Wow this is interesting. This is what came to my mind. I've always thought I hid behind my ascendant for too long. So, men often see me as a sweet innocent pisces girl, instead of a bright straightforward confident leo. My image is this innocent pisces. My virgo moon is pretty reserved to open up for love and when I open up, then I screw up because I start showing my leo side that scare men.

But I do have temper. Seriously.😂
Is it not because of my afflicted mars? or is it only my leo sun? But my leo sun degree is cusp.. closer to cancer. So I'm pretty reserved. My bright personality is actually added from my sun conj jupiter placement, i guess.

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posted September 14, 2020 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for antiphon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can’t say for sure what the cause is. Maybe it is both. It sounds like you’re inhibiting your Leo nature, and it’s best not to do that.

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