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Knowflake

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posted September 18, 2020 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So this has me a little curious. I never really see a Square aspect as dangerous or detrimental, more just of a challenge or enticement to work at something actively.

My Union asteroid is exactly conjunct my Mercury/True Lilith in the 8th/Scorpio.

His Union is exactly conjunct his True Lilith in the 7th/Aquarius.

We have a number of trines and squares overall, and seem to have a strong pull to spend time together.

The square of Union asteroids is what I'm unsure about. Do you think it would mean that our ways of harmoniously merging with another/our space is at odds? Where Aqua may want that independent distinction and Scorpio may want the emotional merge?

To note, my Moon is Gemini, his Moon is Pisces. This makes me think the overlay is re-emphasized with how our emotional needs differ. He is used to emotional blending and wishes for less, I rarely emotionally blend and wish for more.

Perhaps to find a balance without overdoing it? Union is still a curious asteroid for me.

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posted September 19, 2020 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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todd
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posted September 19, 2020 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My take on squares is that if they are between harmonious symbols,the they can be good.here union square to union would imply that both of you take each other seriously
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posted September 19, 2020 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops I thought you were referring to a composite chart.I don't know how having the same aspect in your Natal's would affect the relationship

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posted September 20, 2020 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@todd thanks for replying!

Yeah, I was referring to synastry between the two charts. We do take each other seriously, so you may be onto something anyway.

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posted September 20, 2020 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Union (1585) can prove to be a significant supplementery indicator in relationships and marriages. So, you have to check it with planets and other love-themed asteroids.

It can also show what feelings you express when you unite with another person. Maybe the square in your case indicates that there is a discomfort in the energies expressed the minute you are about to come closer.

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posted September 20, 2020 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On second thought,if you both have union/Lilith conjunctions then the composite must have a union/Lilith conjunction.so my first assessment holds true.
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posted September 20, 2020 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Todd

Oh that's right- they are conjunct in composite. Also conjunct Uranus/North Node and Neptune in the 7th house.

My first thought now is the shadow aspect may be what's harmonizing between us, and that may lead to new understanding of ourselves orrr maybe chaos? Hahaha

It's a wonder, for sure.

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posted September 20, 2020 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow conjunct the node and uranus and Neptune.that is amazingly psychic and visionary. But the grand visions and plans ate very difficult to fulfil.and union /Lilith conjunct the node...???that is hard for me to conceptualize.need to see the entire composite.really amazing.

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posted September 20, 2020 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Todd it does feel pretty intense! Definitely new compared to some old patterns.

There are only a handful of aspects it makes in the chart overall;
- square from Sun/Mercury in 5th
- trine from Jupiter in the 3rd
- sextile from Pluto in the 6th
- quincunx from Chiron in 2nd

Writing it out now, it has me thinking. I recently had some major change in regards to my own shadow work, and when that dust began to settle this interaction came about. It feels like unexplored territory, in a way, but I'm not sure if it's a curiosity and the cat energy, either, haha!

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posted September 21, 2020 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That stellium is really unusual as it brings in a lot higher energies to the human world.
First the node and Lilith brings an intimate emotional/psyche connection. This gives a deep spontaneous empathy. I would think there is a inherent familiarly.
Adding Uranus give an astral connection.this imies common dreams and psyche communication. Neptune as a etheric sensitivity and can also BRI g visionary dreams.these influences are extremely creative.
The confusing thing here is that with union conjunct there is a bond,but the symbols are very flexible and changing so constancy may be problematic.
Without a complete chart it is difficult anticipate specifics

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posted September 21, 2020 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The union/lith conjunction imples a inherent,subconscious stability in the relationship but the conscious emotional,mental and spirit awareness is extremely variable .it is almostike oil and water.

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posted September 22, 2020 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Todd

Ohh, that is an excellent way to put it. Oil and Water. It is strange because I'm used to that in my own life, yet the lack of subconscious stress is what has me sort of unsure. Ironic! It's a little relieving, actually.

And makes sense; we have a complete Square in composite as well.

- Moon in Aries on the 11/12th cusp
- Saturn in Aquarius in the 8th
- Chiron in Leo in the 2nd
- Venus in Libra in the 5th (which is where Sun and Mercury are)

To me that reads as some tricky energy. I can attest there have been moments of emotion that seem intense but are so ... conscious? Almost like it's too in the face to ignore rather than escape from. And escape doesn't seem to work either, just pronounce it more!

Maybe because Chiron is involved? I always see Chiron as a sort of energy antenna.

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