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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 01:52 PM
  
I just learnt that you can put up an event chart of time/location when lovers met to find out what potential (good or bad) it hasThis is the chart when my love and i met - what do you think?
NOTE" alde is fixed star Aldebaran https://ibb.co/P4cd1pk IP: Logged |
efaki94
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posted September 20, 2020 03:26 PM
You can also check the aspects between first meet chart and your composite. IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 03:46 PM
really? like synastry? quote:
Originally posted by efaki94:
You can also check the aspects between first meet chart and your composite.
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Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 03:56 PM
You can pull a multicomposite on astro.com using the two people's birth data and the event data as a third person.IP: Logged |
efaki94
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posted September 20, 2020 04:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stone1:
really? like synastry?
Yeah like synastry
For example when I met my bf
Transit node was conjuct composite venus
So you can check for aspects between those two charts.
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efaki94
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posted September 20, 2020 04:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
You can pull a multicomposite on astro.com using the two people's birth data and the event data as a third person.
Stoika how should we explain this multi composite? Does it have a long time influence? IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 04:07 PM
AS for the first meeting chart, your meeting happened under a strong sexual and flirting vibe, cause Eris is square Pluto and Sun is sextile Uranus and Mars, and with Juno square Jupiter this was a favourable time for establishing a relationship, Neptune was also sextile Jupiter, this is a favorable influence for immediate mutual understanding and shared backgrounds... with Saturn square to Uranus the relationship might have had some ups and down before taking off the ground, but this aspect and long term expectations could be seen in a more accurate way in an event multicomposite. IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 04:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by efaki94:
Stoika how should we explain this multi composite? Does it have a long time influence?
The multicomposite can give you an idea of what the meeting was about and how the two people have experienced it. It's like transits to Composite, so it may suggest also future developments. IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 05:06 PM
Wow Stoika thanks! Your words are accurate. Since then, we've had a lot of ups and downs after half a year passed, still hoping he is going to be the one!I was actually quite afraid of that chart since venus mercury and jupiter were all on the fall
and venus aspect is quite tough
Here is the multicomposite chart (me, him, time-we-met-event)
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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 05:10 PM
I am also adding our composite and synastry charts hope you can give me some insights!Composite:
https://ibb.co/P1xSyF9 Synastry: (I am outside)
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Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 05:42 PM
The meeting multicomposite suggests your relationship started with strong sexual involvement cause Saturn/Venus midpoint is conjunct Mars and the 8th house stellium plus Chiron square to Pluto, here there's also Ixion so it looks a bit aggressive, maybe your intimacy had a trait of "competition" as if it could release a powerful yet subtle conflicting energy... also Uranus in 7th house conjunct Eros and widely conjunct Lilith, maybe your first meeting has suddenly affected you and infatuation was deeply felt at first sight. The stellium in 8th house also shows there was an immediate attraction and synergy you felt about each other, Chiron square Pluto feels very transformative and the meeting might have affected you both deeply at subconscious level, there was a strong sexual pull here you likely couldnt control... Saturn conjunct MC sextile Moon and Venus, this clearly looks very favourable for establishing the relationship at the time, but Saturn is also conjunct Eris giving again a strong sexual attraction which is what triggers feelings of potential committment...
The Moon/Saturn midpoint is square to Uranus/Eros, while this might have been quite exciting at the beginning, the square to Uranus could be a strong omen about instability and ups and downs, and with Saturn square to the ASC/DSC axis and widely to Neptune the future of the relationship looks uncertain, it could be hard to grasp where you both stand about committing to each other. Also, Eros as midpoint between Neptune and Uranus might suggest that external circumstances might keep you physically separated at times or create difficulties in getting together in a more stable way.Can I also check the Composite chart? EDIT: sorry, I didnt see you had posted also the Composite :-) I'll check it now. IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 06:19 PM
There is a strong uncertainty in the Composite, this is given by Neptune quincunx Saturn, the Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct to the Mercury/Sun midpoint so this looks that there's a strong intellectual connection, this is also enhanced by the Juno/Venus midpoint conjunct Vertex square Jupiter but this also brings an unattainable side as you might feel you're destined to be together while in reality things could be much more complicated... In fact Jupiter square Neptune also signals things are not all as they seem or there's not enough clarity about your committment, the midpoint is conjunct to Chiron/DSC, so this basic lack of clearity seems to be the main issue here.
Mars/Eris midpoint is conjunct Amor and square Venus, this mainly suggests especially a sexual attraction from his part and Eris might bring a lack of true emotional/affection element.
Pluto is conjunct IC, square to Juno and quincunx to Saturn, you can feel a very familiar bond in your intimacy and the longing for each other could be overwhelming, but Saturn gives challenges here imposing restrictions, maybe external circumstances again, it takes a strong will to overcome such restricitons in order to make things work out otherwise power struggles could arise bringing great instability and along with being quincunx to Neptune this aspect might bring separation.
Transiting north node is trine to Vertex at this moment, so you might experience an "up" phase currently with very romantic and idealistic traits... transiting Mars retrograde is also on Amor square to Venus, so a "return" of intimacy is possible for the next two months... Transiting Saturn retrograde is conjunct Venus at this moment, so again you might feel things getting more stable for a while... as transiting Saturn goes direct it will be square to Mars by the end of the year, I need to warn you that he might withdraw then or a new very unstable phase might start early next year...IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 06:44 PM
This is something, I am shocked how accurate you interpreted everything, and how much the chart shows the accuracy, i guess.
You were all correct with our first meet, and we are having ups and downs like moon cycle each month, but we never gave up on each other. I sensed I adore him more than he adores me, but he has been very patient and helpful with everything about me.
I never saw midpoint study, neither using Eris, I always though Eris is about discord (malefic)?
Also progressed moon is 1'30''(less than 2 degress) conjunct my vertex when I met him, I guess that 2 degree orb is allowed to have fated feeling?
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The meeting multicomposite suggests your relationship started with strong sexual involvement cause Saturn/Venus midpoint is conjunct Mars and the 8th house stellium plus Chiron square to Pluto, here there's also Ixion so it looks a bit aggressive, maybe your intimacy had a trait of "competition" as if it could release a powerful yet subtle conflicting energy... also Uranus in 7th house conjunct Eros and widely conjunct Lilith, maybe your first meeting has suddenly affected you and infatuation was deeply felt at first sight. The stellium in 8th house also shows there was an immediate attraction and synergy you felt about each other, Chiron square Pluto feels very transformative and the meeting might have affected you both deeply at subconscious level, there was a strong sexual pull here you likely couldnt control... Saturn conjunct MC sextile Moon and Venus, this clearly looks very favourable for establishing the relationship at the time, but Saturn is also conjunct Eris giving again a strong sexual attraction which is what triggers feelings of potential committment...
The Moon/Saturn midpoint is square to Uranus/Eros, while this might have been quite exciting at the beginning, the square to Uranus could be a strong omen about instability and ups and downs, and with Saturn square to the ASC/DSC axis and widely to Neptune the future of the relationship looks uncertain, it could be hard to grasp where you both stand about committing to each other. Also, Eros as midpoint between Neptune and Uranus might suggest that external circumstances might keep you physically separated at times or create difficulties in getting together in a more stable way.Can I also check the Composite chart? EDIT: sorry, I didnt see you had posted also the Composite :-) I'll check it now.
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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 06:47 PM
You are absolutely right about the uncertainty, but I am determined to be with him no matter what even I probably don't full understand what at full commitment means to me. Is his commitment unclear too?
We are long distance, and we haven't seen each other since march, and I don't see much hope to see each other this year since my country is not allowing foreigners coming in. How I wish what you said about mars/reunion is true!
Also how did you differ which side withdraws per your comments about transit saturn goes direct?
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There is a strong uncertainty in the Composite, this is given by Neptune quincunx Saturn, the Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct to the Mercury/Sun midpoint so this looks that there's a strong intellectual connection, this is also enhanced by the Juno/Venus midpoint conjunct Vertex square Jupiter but this also brings an unattainable side as you might feel you're destined to be together while in reality things could be much more complicated... In fact Jupiter square Neptune also signals things are not all as they seem or there's not enough clarity about your committment, the midpoint is conjunct to Chiron/DSC, so this basic lack of clearity seems to be the main issue here.
Mars/Eris midpoint is conjunct Amor and square Venus, this mainly suggests especially a sexual attraction from his part and Eris might bring a lack of true emotional/affection element.
Pluto is conjunct IC, square to Juno and quincunx to Saturn, you can feel a very familiar bond in your intimacy and the longing for each other could be overwhelming, but Saturn gives challenges here imposing restrictions, maybe external circumstances again, it takes a strong will to overcome such restricitons in order to make things work out otherwise power struggles could arise bringing great instability and along with being quincunx to Neptune this aspect might bring separation.
Transiting north node is trine to Vertex at this moment, so you might experience an "up" phase currently with very romantic and idealistic traits... transiting Mars retrograde is also on Amor square to Venus, so a "return" of intimacy is possible for the next two months... Transiting Saturn retrograde is conjunct Venus at this moment, so again you might feel things getting more stable for a while... as transiting Saturn goes direct it will be square to Mars by the end of the year, I need to warn you that he might withdraw then or a new very unstable phase might start early next year...
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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 06:54 PM
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posted September 20, 2020 07:01 PM
Wow Venus square to Jupiter with the midpoint conjunct the sun and the eris/Pallas midpoint conjunct the syn,plus the mars/Neptune conjunction with the south node,shows you were ready to move the dinnerware and do him on the table.LOLReally a lot of chemistry on your side.but with Uranus square saturn and Pluto,the ups and downs are shown IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 07:18 PM
Thank you Todd!But only on my side? what does he think about me? Do we have long term potential? quote:
Originally posted by todd:
Wow Venus square to Jupiter with the midpoint conjunct the sun and the eris/Pallas midpoint conjunct the syn,plus the mars/Neptune conjunction with the south node,shows you were ready to move the dinnerware and do him on the table.LOLReally a lot of chemistry on your side.but with Uranus square saturn and Pluto,the ups and downs are shown
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Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 07:24 PM
The challenge from Saturn and vertex/juno might be about the physical separation/long distance then, cause it seems given by an external circumstance/fate, it's still possible that the "up" phase will come with long distance communication in the meantime... Saturn quincunx Pluto might also very well give such "stubborness" or strong will to stay together no matter all the circumstances against it.
Transiting Saturn going direct square to Mars and then conjunct Vertex/Juno early next year might give awareness about the challenges of the relationship, the square to Mars is the most concerning one though. transiting Jupiter going direct will also travel to Venus and then Vertex/Juno just around new years eve or early january with tr. north node square to composite Sun/Jupiter midpoint so that's maybe when you will be able to physically meet again early next year, whether you but especially him will cope with tr. Saturn square Composite Mars in a positive way...Yes your porg Moon conjunct natal vertex feels very fated :-) IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 07:37 PM
PS: sorry I made a mistake, tr. north node has just past trine comp. mercury. Given the long distance context, it's possible that during tr. mars retrograde for the next two months you both will highly long for each other but also feel hopeless about the future. I suggest to not take any extreme decision during Mars retrograde... as Saturn will go direct at the end of september, early october, tr. Mercury/Juno will go through Pluto/IC and square to Vertex/Juno, so I think you will keep the long distance connection "no matter what". IP: Logged |
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posted September 20, 2020 07:38 PM
Was all based on this first meeting chart,the mats/pholous/south node syellium marks him as a player.there are some favorable sextiles to mars so it is not absolutely certain he is playing you.
One thing that really bothers me is the vertex is opposed to the moon/nessus conjunction.this is indicative or selfish and controlling
tendencies on this part. This could suggest you have been taken advantage before and he is playing g on these past issues
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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 07:44 PM
I am confident he is not a player. He has helped me so much last 6 months, no players would do that. But I am also certain I adore him more than he adores me (this may change in the future since we only met few times in short amount of time)
Regarding vertex opp. nessus, maybe it is me who wants to control him? I want him only be mine  Or maybe I was taken advantage in past lives? He is my first love
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Was all based on this first meeting chart,the mats/pholous/south node syellium marks him as a player.there are some favorable sextiles to mars so it is not absolutely certain he is playing you.
One thing that really bothers me is the vertex is opposed to the moon/nessus conjunction.this is indicative or selfish and controlling
tendencies on this part. This could suggest you have been taken advantage before and he is playing g on these past issues
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stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 07:47 PM
I truly hope we can meet in January. It's so difficult to travel overseas since we are in two red-flagged covid countries 
But you see long term potentials in our relationship? I am longing for him every minute. quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
PS: sorry I made a mistake, tr. north node has just past trine comp. mercury. Given the long distance context, it's possible that during tr. mars retrograde for the next two months you both will highly long for each other but also feel hopeless about the future. I suggest to not take any extreme decision during Mars retrograde... as Saturn will go direct at the end of september, early october, tr. Mercury/Juno will go through Pluto/IC and square to Vertex/Juno, so I think you will keep the long distance connection "no matter what".
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posted September 20, 2020 07:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stone1:
I am confident he is not a player. He has helped me so much last 6 months, no players would do that. But I am also certain I adore him more than he adores me (this may change in the future since we only met few times in short amount of time)
Regarding vertex opp. nessus, maybe it is me who wants to control him? I want him only be mine
That could be...it may show your wanting to control.I'll need to look at the composite to better understand the enduring dynamics IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 20, 2020 07:54 PM
Please take a look composite and synastry:Composite:
https://ibb.co/P1xSyF9 Synastry: (I am outside)
https://ibb.co/Jz24FjY Thanks Todd! quote:
Originally posted by todd:
That could be...it may show your wanting to control.I'll need to look at the composite to better understand the enduring dynamics
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Stoika7
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posted September 20, 2020 08:00 PM
'cept for tr. Saturn square Mars, I think that transits look very favourable for next year, with Saturn and Jupiter traveling through Vertex, Juno and later on the DSC... so I think it all depends on how you cope with the long distance separation in the meantime, cause Saturn square Mars just after leaving the conjunction to Venus looks like a tough moment...
In the Composite, you have strong binding aspects, but also strong incertainties given by Neptune/Saturn and the Vertex as midpoint of Venus/Juno... whether this gets long terms depends on how you cope with such underlying insecurity/instability and push/pull dynamic of the chart given by the YOD (Saturn/Pluto/Neptune). Pluto on IC and Chiron on DSC are very transformative, so this can work whether you both are willing to embrace and face the challenges in order to keep the bond, which looks quite karmic btw.
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