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ana_bee
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posted September 21, 2020 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I see the kite, I also see the grand trine with mars, venus, pluto/juno that seems lovely intense .. but there’s also Saturn square sun and mars, also there‘s a moon/Uranus opposition.. so I don’t know
What do you think?

Is this relationship material or just a fling?

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Odette
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posted September 21, 2020 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... there are some things that could definitely make it relationship material.

The only thing I don't really like is the un-aspected Moon/Chiron. The orb is too wide so I wouldn't count that aspect to Uranus.

Did you have his exact birth time for this?
If not, then the Moon might be at a different degree.. and hopefully it might actually make some closer aspects.

The most important things in a composite chart are personal planet aspects and in particular having Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars in aspect... plus some Mercury connections is great. Some astrologers think the absolute best configuration for love is having a stellium of Sun/Venus/Mercury or Sun/Moon/Mercury...

I actually think just having these planets in aspect is positive in and of itself, so it doesn't have to be a stellium necessarily..

You have Sun conjunct Mercury which makes for awesome communication. You are on the same wavelength mentally.. If you also have some synastry aspects involving Mercury - then you probably feel like you could talk for hours.

Venus in nice aspects to both Mars and Pluto (with Jupiter thrown in that mix!).. is awesome! On a physical level, you really feel well-matched. There is good chemistry between you and there's also a lot of depth to this connection (since the grand trine part of the kite is in water signs). I would guess that it feels great to just be in the same room with this person - because you connect in a very positive way.. I see this grand trine as a *lock eyes across a room* aspect... It's very romantic and sweet, but also sexually attractive!

I wouldn't worry too much about Saturn being involved in that t-square.. This is more like "every relationship has its problems".. You often see Saturn pop up in significant relationships and often it is actually hard aspects.. So things won't always be "fun" between you... but in the context of everything else, I would say that you can figure this out together...

The main problems are... the Moon (if it's *actually* un-aspected.. but you need his birth time to find out, as I mentioned).. and the other "biggie" is Neptune... in the Neptune/Venus opposition - turning the grand trine into a kite....

The Moon is like the emotional core of the relationship. You need to have some Moon connections to really get emotionally close. Venus is more like chemistry, love, romance.... but the Moon is a deeper kind of emotion... and feelings of familiarity...

Without Moon aspects.. I feel like this might end up fizzling out.. even if there is a great deal of chemistry otherwise...

Also... the conjunction to Chiron (if the TOB and degrees are correct) could bring up some old wounds that will be difficult to deal with and talk about - since this doesn't touch on any other planets.. It might even be like a painful situation hidden beneath the surface..
^^ But that's only if the Moon position is correct and that Moon/Chiron is actually a *close* aspect....

The Neptune/Venus is an issue because .. well...
Neptune is a very complicated and confusing planet... and because it is transpersonal, it can trump other things - like Saturn and just about everything else other than Pluto aspects (the Venus trine Pluto does help with this! Pluto is a much more realistic planet than Neptune..)...

You both need to keep your feet on the ground..There can be a lot of mutual idealisation going on which will feel totally sweet and amazing in the beginning stages -- but if you don't want this to crash and burn... you need to *actually* get to know each other, as you *actually* are.. rather than as you would want each other to be... in that Neptunian/fairytale version of life...

But I don't believe the Venus/Neptune would break you either...

Really, the only thing that could break this up and turn it into a "short term" thing - is the Moon situation..
Other than that - in my opinion - overall - it does look great for long-term.

Hope this helps!!!

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posted September 21, 2020 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Odette,thank you so much for taking your time!
A lot of what you wrote definitely resonates with my experience so far! Great intellectual rapport, we only had one date so far this Sunday, but it lasted over 4 hours and we were just talking like old friends.

I didn’t intend to date someone, since I was interested in someone else, who lives 200 miles away from me.. but since this has been stalling for a while, and he wouldn’t commit, I said yes when this guy approached me. Noticing each other across the room is actually exactly how it went!

I don’t have his exact TOB yet, but I’ll ask him! So you’re right the moon is most definitely a few degrees off!
I guessed his Asc to be Gemini, because my longest relationship so far was with a Gemini Asc guy, and this one reminds me of him, he has very similar face and body features and his whole demeanor is very similar, too. But who knows. I just feel that it’s air!

This is our synastry..
Him outside, me inside (his tob unknown so far)

The grand cross and the grand square.. he has them in his natal chart, too. I don’t though, but I have sun square Moon and Moon opp Uranus in natal.

Looking at the nodes, which I always check first.. his Venus is exactly trine my NN
Also my Venus/Mars/Lilith is conj his NN (although rather wide 5 degrees!)
What’s the deal with wide aspects, do they count at all? How are they felt?

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posted September 22, 2020 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insights from anyone else?

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livvywatermonkey
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posted September 22, 2020 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey ana_bee

To me I don’t get a sense of there being huge “red flags” - what I’m curious about is his Aries North Node in your 6th house, Libra South Node in your 12th house. You’ve got natal Aries Venus-Mars conjunct. I was wondering if you are in some sense a stronger personality than him when it comes to conflict, and whether he is somewhat conflict avoidant, and whether he may feel threatened by your knowing your own mind in conflict/being able to hold your own. Does this resonate, or not so much?

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posted September 23, 2020 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@livvy

Hi, I don’t know how he behaves in conflict situations, since I haven’t experienced him in any, yet.
But it’s true that I’m not easily swayed during conflicts, and sometimes, especially when I was younger, I would create drama to feel alive, and to get a deeper responds from my friends and partners. I’m aware now, how tiresome this is, and that most people just want their peace. I definitely got much more compliant and easy going with age. My Pisces sun tempers me down and also my Taurus NN. I also don’t hold grudges. I think Gemini Moon does that and also Aries Mars. They blow up easily, and then want to hug and make up again, and this is basically how I am! Would be interesting to find out how he handles emotional situations! Somehow I get the feeling, like you said!, that he would be the type to not participate at all and remove himself emotionally, just a feeling. But he’s funny, he’s beautiful, also gentle in his demeanor and understanding.

Someone could say, that he’s not the man I would need! That I need someone who’s more ‚manly‘ and rougharound the edges.. Bit I feel attracted to him, and he appeared out of nowhere and approached me. I didn’t seek him out. So I‘m inclined to give it a try and see where we end up.
What do you think about my Venus/Mars conj his NN by 5 degree! It’s considered wide, so is it felt at all and if yes, how?

Also his Venus trines my NN by 1 degree.


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posted September 23, 2020 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Venus-North Node trine could reflect him easily desiring to support you, like it comes easy to him to want to support you

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posted October 06, 2020 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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