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charlie
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posted September 24, 2020 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is my mother's 1st born and I have never met him but I have felt a "presence" or that something is missing in my life for quite many years. Now I'm not sure if I should contact him..
I am on the inside. His birthtime is correct.
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posted September 24, 2020 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi charlie,

your ASC/DSC is conjunct his MC/IC, and your North Node is conjunct his ASC, this is a karmic bond, and with your Jupiter/Saturn conjunction in his 7th house, and your Saturn in his 9th trine to his Jupiter/Neptune, I think he would want to know you... he might not completely open up and with your Mars square his Saturn/Neptune opposition he might be very insecure about establishing a stable connection with you, maybe he might not be so forthcoming on a deeper stable level, some emotional issues might arise, especially with his Moon/Chiron square to your Moon. But if you're able to have a "light" attitude, I think it could work out.
If you like, I could also check the Composite chart as well.

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posted September 24, 2020 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi charlie

I drew up a composite for you and your brother.
There is a moon conjunct to Jupiter and this trine to a syellium of sun/mercury/Venus/Saturn/Venus
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This shows a sponateous affection and devotion for each other.it has very favorable from facial aspects so you might help each others respective professions or even join up,as mars is square to Jupiter show great industry.
There are some problematic issues.mercury is square to Pluto so it may be difficult to open up to each other.nessus is square to Jupiter and opposed to mars,so the might have been abusive conditions in childhood that be a source of the distances.
Uranus is opposed to Chiron and square to Orcus,which again give a possibility of unconscious isolation.this could relate to negative childhood condition,so becareful not to push as arguments could arise.

Venus/mercury/Saturn are conjunct the south node,so there should be a instant comraderie,as you emotions and minds will be linked...likely telepathic communication .
Saturn with the node can bring resentment so even if there is a instant connection action felt do not presume of instant intimacy.I mean,even with a instant connection still let the signs affection emerged slowly.

It looks very favorable but there may be unconscious or subconscious resentment so don't push intimacy but reciprocate when affection appears.
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posted September 26, 2020 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you both for your answers! I contacted him and he sent me a very (!) nice response saying that he has always wanted to contact me but didn’t know how.

I don’t know the story as to why my mother chose to leave him with her ex husband. I do recall, I think, that he was abusive towards her but I can remember this incorrectly.

He said that he had written a letter to her a long time ago but seeing as she remarried, he couldn’t find her either. I don’t really know if I should connect them both because I honestly don’t know how my mother would react! She is pure Scorpio/Pluto (Sun, Moon, Mercury all in Scorpio sq Pluto) so knowing that...she probably will have issues...

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posted September 26, 2020 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow charlie, goosebumps. wishing you the most and the best with this reconciliation

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posted September 26, 2020 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Charlie, this is amazing ❤️❤️❤️

I would say... he sounds to be wishing to contact her, so maybe you could just help him, be a "medium" for them, and then just let them free of what to do with it.

In my family I had a similar experience with some cousins born from same father, my uncle, but different mother... they never met until they were 50 and 65 years old, and the 65 years old was the one who never met his dad, my uncle, cause his mother had holden everything back from him, and he didnt even know to have a sister (the 50 years old)... she finally found him through facebook last year... their parents had already all passed away, and my cousin was so scared to contact this unknown brother... but then it turned out they met and "recognized" their bond instantly and became very close in short time and now they are very close, sharing all their family stories and happy to spend a lot of time together :-)

I wish you the most positive outcome for you as well ❤️

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posted September 26, 2020 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, all of you! It almost feels unreal!! Looking at his chart and perhaps reading too much into my experiences, for ME, it makes sense the many choices I’ve made. I’ve always looked for something, especially in men, and never found it. I have ALWAYS gravitated towards men born in 1971 without knowing why, but I’ve thought about it. I have always had great connection with Geminis and obviously Pluto/Scorpio. And what is the chance of us both being a Life Path 5!?

I can’t stop wondering what my life would have looked like had I had a brother growing up..

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posted September 26, 2020 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An update: can you guys see in my brother’s chart anything about trauma?? He is apparently bipolar and has struggled quite a bit with feeling lost! He was diagnosed 2018 at the age of 47. He said that when he got the answer from his doctor, many pieces in the puzzle fell into place for him. He has been deeply sad as to why our mother left him and his father never had answers.

I can post other charts if needed!

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posted September 26, 2020 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...interesting cause his Gemini Sun is in 8th house, and your North Node in 3rd house (Gemini) is conjunct his ASC in Scorpio (his 8th house)... then, his Neptune falls in your 4th house and square to your Mars, this could look like the "male figure" missing in your past family environment which your North Node conjunct your IC was looking to identify (his ASC)... your Moons square in both 5th house, your Moon in his 3rd house of communication, his Moon in your 9th of knowledge and compassion :-)

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posted September 26, 2020 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I can post other charts if needed!

I'd like to check your Composite with him, even though I trust 100% what Todd said.
It would be insteresting to explore he and your mother's charts (synastry and composite), if you like.

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posted September 26, 2020 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
An update: can you guys see in my brother’s chart anything about trauma?? He is apparently bipolar and has struggled quite a bit with feeling lost! He was diagnosed 2018 at the age of 47. He said that when he got the answer from his doctor, many pieces in the puzzle fell into place for him. He has been deeply sad as to why our mother left him and his father never had answers.

I can post other charts if needed!


His Aries Moon/Chiron in 5th house to me clearly points to an emotional wound from childhood affecting his identity (Aries), his Gemini Sun in 8th house square to Pluto looks like throwing a strong subconscious shadow on his inner sense of "Self". which he seems to identify more with his Scorpio ASC (his Sun and ASC at late 6 degree), and his Saturn opposite Neptune in first house suggests a self-worth issue affecting his relationships (Saturn in 7th house) in a way that he feels not worth to be loved. His Mars conjunct North Node in Aquarius 3rd house (Gemini) seems to look for his true identity and to set his Gemini Sun free (North Node/Mars trine to Sun/Mercury), which he might achieve through his best mercurian intellectual skills.

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posted September 26, 2020 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite mother and I

Composite mother and brother

Composite brother and I

synastry mother and I

synastry mother and brother

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posted September 26, 2020 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking at mother and brother first...

In Composite, Chiron/Moon midpoint in 4th house square to Neptune clearly shows an abandonment/detachment issue... also Saturn is in Cancer/10th house, so this shows that a family/nurturing environment was missing... also, the Sun/Moon midpoint is square Uranus, which looks like an abrupt separation/detachment from the "roots" of their mother/son connection, cause the midpoint falls in the 2nd house... South Node is in 12th house and conjunct Sun, another aspect of separation deeply affecting the child at his identity level (Sun) and in his social relationships (Sun in 11th house), and giving a deeply unsolved trait to the relationship (South Node 12th house)...
Venus and North Node in sixth house/Pisces suggest that a re-connection is not impossible, the sixth house takes time and effort to work things out and the Venus/North Node midpoint square to the Mars/Jupiter midpoint in 3rd house, so I think that a re-connection can happen slowly and with a careful communication cause self-defence attitudes and emotions are obviously there, especially from your mother's side cause of the Neptune square Moon/Chiron midpoint which might also suggest deep guilty feelings and the resurfacing of her deepest past wounds... But Saturn trine to Venus and Mars seems willing to support such reconnection, and North Node in Pisces is all about compassion and healing...

In synastry, her Venus in 5th house is right square to his Chiron/Moon in 5th house with her Neptune opposition and square to Uranus, so again it seems that the wound of abandonment and separation is visible... she has south node conjunct neptune in 3rd house, so she's likely prone to repress and let go old memories and past wounds, but this leaves a sense of nonfulfillment to her... his South Node is conjunct to her Pluto in her 12th house, again a strong karmic placement showing that a lot of unconscious dynamics of his childhood (South Node in Leo) could be hidden/repressed/forgotten... her Pluto is opposite to his Mars and square to her Moon in 4th house, so I think this shows that the detachment was deeply painful for her... but it also suggests that a strong emotional conflict is there... his Jupiter/Neptune is conjunct her Sun/Mercury and opposite Saturn, so even though she might feel the "blame" from his Saturn, i.e. he might trigger her deepest self-worth issues, the Jupiter/Saturn opposition suggest that a positive balance between past and present/future can be worked out... moreover, her North Node is conjunct his Moon, so this looks like a good omen for me, for a possible future reconnection...

In your synastry with your mother, it's interesting that your Neptune in 4th house is conjunct to her Chiron and square her Saturn, to me this suggests that she partly found a inner fulfillment/healing by having you, even though the square to to Saturn also suggests that being mother again could have triggered her self-worth issues as a mother related to the detachment from your brother... your Moon is conjunct her Venus in 5th house trine her Saturn though, so the love for you was intense, devoted and this might maybe have given her a more stable sense of identity and new direction in her life, a complete new start/life/identity, also looking at your Sun/stellium falling in her 11th house opposite her Venus and square to her North Node in 9th house/Aries.

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posted September 26, 2020 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for your Composite with your brother, I would comply with Todd's observations, I am only noticing that transiting North Node is actually conjunct Composite North node, "activating" your relationship right at this moment. Composite South Node is conjunct Saturn/Venus, which is a separation aspect, so I think that this suggests the fact that destiny has kept you separated... but North Node is in 3rd house of communication and in Sagittarius, and it is sextile Jupiter, so I think that your connection can give both new life perspective... Chiron is in 7th house so your relationship looks "wounded" but it's sextile Jupiter in 5th house, this is an healing energy bringing new awareness... With mercury trine Moon, an affectionate bond can be developed and with mercury in cancer I think your communication might help him reconnect with your mother as well.

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posted September 26, 2020 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the elephant in the refrigerator is his fathers composite.
Additionally a,tricomposite of your brother and his parents should be considered.
Also I assume you are female?
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posted September 27, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
I think the elephant in the refrigerator is his fathers composite.
Additionally a,tricomposite of your brother and his parents should be considered.
Also I assume you are female?
todd

I am female, yes. Wouldn't a composite with his dad be rendered useless since I don't know his birthtime?

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posted September 27, 2020 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The angles will be useless but as you have 2 out of 3 TOBs,even the moons position will be within 2 degrees of orbit,enough to make comments.all the other planets will be more than of adequate orb to read the chart
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posted September 29, 2020 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 01, 2020 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a difficult chart to resolve.the mars square to sun/Uranus implies a turbulent relationship. So why he remained with his father is problematic. But with moon apposed to Neptune and square to Chiron,she does not seem to be a nurturing influence.did she have aalchol problem. It looks like she abandoned tour brother.bit leave Jim with is father is troubling with the obvious turbulence in their relationship.
Saturn conjunct cut Lilith square to psyche can be a sign unnatural fixation on children.
Sun/Uranus midpoint to Pluto is square to nessus with certainly has violent abuse indications

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posted October 10, 2020 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met him today. He is lovely! So very intelligent and so very frail; mentally.

There was sexual abuse (not by family member) when he was very young, among many other disturbed things.
Apparently, our mother suffered Postnatal Psychosis so they took him away and his father had 100% custody. His entire story is quite sad (and it makes my own pale) but it also feels good knowing our mother didn't give up on him, intentionally!

He also said that his dad had said that our mother suffered another psychosis after I was born. How HIS dad knew this, I don't know. Might be true as likelyhood of getting it with another pregnancy is huge.

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posted October 10, 2020 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's very heartening.I would think youbwukk both grow stronger now you are connected.
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