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Topic: Help: I have a question ❤️ @graham, @todd and all the people that would like to help
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maleja.rangel
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From: Bogotá
Registered: Feb 2020
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posted October 21, 2020 10:18 AM
  
Hello, I hope you can help me with my doubt, I was checking the Davidson Chart of a relationship and also the Composite Chart of the same relationship. I already post the charts before asking something else but I wonder one thing:
In composite Mars forms trines to the outer planets but in Davidson is forming oppositions and forming a trine to Pluto that doesn’t really exists in Composite. Does it means that the porpouse of the relationship is to handle martian energies? Also Juno is conjunct Moon in Davidson and the trines to MC gets stronger, same than The squares of The moon to Mercury and Venus, also the conjunctions Mercury Venus and Mercury Jupiter. I wonder if handle properly communication is the key? I really don’t know how to understand the porpouse because it changes many things. Thank you for the help DAVIDSON
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todd
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posted October 21, 2020 06:30 PM
I don't consider the Davison as it isn't based on astrologyIP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 22, 2020 02:32 AM
Originally posted by malaga.rangel :- quote:
In composite Mars forms trines to the outer planets but in Davidson is forming oppositions and forming a trine to Pluto that doesn’t really exists in Composite.[b]
The 10-minute-orb Mars-Jupiter square is likely to be a significant influence in the composite chart ... So, note how the 10 years age gap between these two people changes that inner to outer planet square into a (13th x 20th) harmonic aspect.In [b]Harmonic Astrology In Practice, David Hamblin asserts that the 13th harmonic aspect impels chart owners to "adventurously test their limits, in a search for personal identity" ... and I'd interpret the 20th harmonic aspect here as "intellectually striving hard to understand/make sense of whaever is revealed by that 13th harmonic search/testing."
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Does it means that the porpouse of the relationship is to handle martian energies?
My guess is that one purpose of this relationship is for both partners to help the other to "use the energy/drive of Mars in a search for self understanding".However ... what is particularly interesting here is that the Davison chart contains a Pluto-Jupiter-Neptune+Saturn yod, suggesting that this relationship is some kind of generational example to others. IP: Logged |
maleja.rangel
Knowflake Posts: 50
From: Bogotá
Registered: Feb 2020
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posted October 22, 2020 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Graham.Hey Graham, it’s so nice that you post here, I have seen all your interpretations and they are just amazing! 😃 quote:
[b]The 10-minute-orb Mars-Jupiter square is likely to be a significant influence in the composite chart ... So, note how the 10 years age gap between these two people changes that inner to outer planet square into a (13th x 20th) harmonic aspect.[b]
According to what you say, Do you mean a 0 minute orb between Jupiter and Mars in composite? Yes? Also the 13th harmonic and The 20th harmonic, how can they know where they are in composite? Is where the planets are situated? I’m sorry, I’m so new with that, you are speaking to me like a foreign language hahaha. quote:
[b] My guess is that one purpose of this relationship is for both partners to help the other to "use the energy/drive of Mars in a search for self understanding". [b]
I guess it makes sense your guess about one porpouse of the relationship because both have like very strong Mars in their natals. I mean he has natal Mars in 7th house conjunct Saturn and she has natal Mars in 8th house squaring Moon and Venus so probably this relationship is helping to understand how to handle that energy to know more about themselves. And also he sometimes isn’t very good handling that kind of energies. quote:
[b] However ... what is particularly interesting here is that the Davison chart contains a Pluto-Jupiter-Neptune+Saturn yod, suggesting that this relationship is some kind of generational example to others. [b]
Sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean with generational example? You mean in terms ideology? Like they probably are creating something that at some point will be seen by others? Thank you so much for taking your time to answer ❤️
Ps: Im trying to understand how to quote haha, that’s why I did it but I did it a big wrong. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 22, 2020 11:21 AM
Originally posted by maleja.randel :- quote:
Do you mean a 0 minute orb between Jupiter and Mars in composite? Yes?
Mars is square Jupiter in the composite chart. ... This square would be exact if the two planets were (exactly) 90 degrees apart. ... However, they are 90degrees10minutes apart in this composite - which we call/refer to as "a 10minutes-orb square". (It is also an "applying" orb, because the faster moving planet/Mars is closing the gap between it and Jupiter. If the gap was widening, it would be a "separating" orb. And applying-orb aspects are considered to be weaker than separating-orb aspects.)
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Also the 13th harmonic and The 20th harmonic, how can they know where they are in composite? Is where the planets are situated?
Mars is making a "13th x 20th harmonic aspect" to Jupiter in the DAVISON chart ... and a "square" in the COMPOSITE chart. The 13th x 20th harmonic aspect requires the two planets to be apart by a multiple of 1degree23minutes05seconds. ... In the Davison, they are 25degrees52minutes53seconds apart (and the gap is widening). ... 1deg23mins05secs x 19 = 26degs18mins28secs (which is an applying 26minutes-orb "13th x 20th harmonic aspect"). Don't get hung up on the maths though. ... In practice, you need only to know is that this is a "13th x 20th harmonic aspect" (and how it is likely to manifest).
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what do you mean with generational example? You mean in terms ideology? Like they probably are creating something that at some point will be seen by others?
Only outer planets are involved in that Yod ... and, because these are slow moving, there will have been many people born with this configuration in their natal chart. ... So, we consider this to be an influence which affects a whole group/"generation" rather than only one particular chart owner. ... In effect, all chart owners born with that configuration are striving to achieve the evolutionary objectives of this yod - and this particular relationship is providing an example for them to learn from. So ... Yes. Their 10-years-gap relationship is exemplifying something involving the evolutionary objectives of that generational yod. [Thus, to fully understand the purpose of this relationship, we need to ascertain/identify the evolutionary objectives of that yod.] IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 23, 2020 04:44 AM
For information, that Davison chart yod objective appears to be "removing the societal taboos of romantic relationships'. ... So, I guess this relationship is challenging the societal taboo/beliefs about what is/is not a suitable/acceptable/practical age gap between two partners. IP: Logged | |
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