posted November 17, 2020 07:43 PM            

First off there is a very powerful psychic/astral connection.
The north node conjunct the ASC by itself gives telepathy and the ability to read each others mind answering questions before they are asked etc.this give a excellent intellectual connection.
In addition mercury is conjunct to Uranus and opposed to Chiron......quite amazing as this aspect by it self gives the psychic/astral abilities,so the composite has two strongest indices a of psychic energy combined.

So this chart is shaping up to be otherworldly/paranormal/phantasmagorical.
But with Chiron in involved and is intensely deductive,analytical and critical.
Chiron adds to a relationship an intense desire/need to totally understand the other.you want to know what they feel and why they feelnin addition to how and whybthe respond as they do.this can bring a functional at-oness with each other.but Chiron adds a sharp Witt and often lack of tact so though this is not especially argumentive ,it does mean that if you do get in riffs you must be very careful not to use their faults against them.all out arguments will be catastrophic for the relationship. But there is suchbharnony also that I don't think this admonition will amount to anything.
Uranus adds access to the astral plane which most often is revealed in vivid dreams of each bother,likely common dreams and real communication during a dream is liking.this can be another lifeboat becausevifcyou have hostile dreams then you need to talk out any latent differences.
These aspect shoecyou are both amazingly intelligence if not genius in you fields. You likely have Computer and mathematical skills in addition to great interest in the occult,metaphysical and philosophic realms..
Your probably were first attracted to eachbother because of these mental characteristics....but maybe not because van other of the "personalities" present are totally carnal,lustful and passionate.

as with the mental plane,this carnal plane has also brought connections to other realities.
Eris conjunct to the MC gives a immediate physical chemistry that is easily confused with simple list,by Jupiter is square which show this attraction is likely in the context of educational or vocational/business endeavors .
In addition there is a amazingly idealistic and romantic grand trine between Eros/psyche/cupid.as eris is a material list this tribe is a heavenly love.as much love for the inner selves as the outer selves. Added to this loving emotional expression is the conjunction to priapus of Eros and these conjunct the anti-vertex.this can bring tantric level sexual feelings and it can add phantasmagorical realities to your emotional interactions.

posted November 18, 2020 03:51 AM            

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Then he also has a Uranus/mercury conjunction.so it still applies .but hard Saturn aspect can make this conjunction give mental difficulties at times

I'll finish tomorrow.

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posted November 18, 2020 07:05 PM            

But first I deal with the last pattern or "personality.this is just what you are concerned about.
Venus is sextike to mars,trine to Pluto, opposed the Saturn/Jupiter conjunction,sextile to Juno and trune to amore .
This is a very favorable pattern for committed relationships and even marriage.this is a grand sextiles with planets of love and commitment.normally I would say this is indicative or marriage,but this is not a normal chart .I share the same concerns you have whether this could work out in a " normal " manner because of all the higher energy planes that also exist.that's what I alluded to by saying there are separate personalities .either the vertex/lilith/Eros stelliym or the node/mercury/Uranus/Chiron pattern could dominate a chart,so with these and the sexual/commitment dynamic it is difficult to see if these almost separate realities could mesh .
Of course the grand sextile is the most important at this point in your life.
The uncertainty here revolves around he is sincerely in love with you or rather is he so taken by the sexual chemistry that he really isn't relating to your soul/spiritual essence.

My uncertainties revolve around 2 points one is the eris/MC square to jupiter and Jupiters conjunction to Neptune and square to nessus along with Saturn square to psyche
On one hand Jupiter/eris square could be real as great passion for a marriage.though you mentioned his ex having a panic attack which I assume had to do with you and he.Venus in the 12 the as mentioned often shows a hidden relationship which contrast with eris/MC square to Jupiter which is fully a public show of commitment so as this was a problem once it might be a problem is he publicly shows the relationship consolidating .
Now here is where it gets complicated. Jupiter conjunct to Neptune can be very disingenuous at the least .the carnal intensity could overwhelm the promise of fidelity.thus possibility is emphasized by the square of nessus to jupiter .this aspect adds to arrogance and the need to control.he might remain a support but demand control of you individuality .generally Jupiter square Neptune is very unfavorable as it shows deception and decker.here Neptune is conjunct which is not malicious by itself but still gives me concern because of the nessus square.
In addition Saturn is square to psyche.this is often a aspect of older man and younger woman but as an aspect it often associated with abusive desires if other malicious aspect exist.. such as are here .this can show a preoccupation with naive young girls.Pluto is sextlie to Jupiter which might ameliorate this a bit but . . I don't know,this one of the aspects that are confusing.

There other aspect that bears on thus question is eris conjunct to priapus opposed to the vertex.Lilith is considered somewhat of a emotional symbol while priapus,Lilith's other endpoint is concerned with sexuality on the subconscious level.the potential problem here is that sexuality could be overwhelmed by the vertex energy.I mean the vertex dies give intensity but it also bring powerful energies from other planes that can easilyvalk Hunan emotions such as love.the phantasmagoric/otherworld intensity can turn in to a obsession for sex with no regard for love.this is already a concern with eris/MC square Jupiter/Neptune.
This is such a amazing syelkium of aspects that I don't have a concrete feeling about it.but I don't think the committee grand sextike will characterized the relationship.the otherworldly aspects are too strong.

Finally looking at current transits
Moon 26sag54 8/20 a more 24pis1 9/20
Eros 21gem51 10/14 vertex 10/20-24 21sag18 priapus 11/19 21gem6
Mars 12/6 20vir11

Okay what I get is that you were really into him in late Aug -sept .
The sexual chemistry is unreal in middle Oct in til now.I would assume he wants to have you move in now as the sexual chemistry from his perspective is off the charts.
But,I speculate that the emotion connect you felt in aug has waned a bit because he has seemed to be obsession sbout sex and not so emotionally responsive.
So what I see is that he is not really concerned about the love between you now but is all about hot sex.

If so then this is not the time to move in because the vertex energy is making him obsessive about having you physically available .his priority is not bonding in love but physical satisfaction.
The vertex is fickle and when the transit is over you can find yourself with a stranger.

posted November 20, 2020 06:08 PM            

Mercury square Neptune day for me
I replies to this thread but put it in the asteroid astrology forum under asteroids of destruction.

posted November 20, 2020 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Hi ToughPrincessa1997
And Saggy7

Mercury square Neptune day for me
I replies to this thread but put it in the asteroid astrology forum under asteroids of destruction.

Could you all look read the replies there

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posted November 20, 2020 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by ToughPrincessa1997:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by todd:
[b]Your concerns are exactly what is see.there is so much otherworldly/karmic energies here that it can be difficult to know what is real...in Hunan terms a mean.these energies take the relationship to other planes but these planes especially the vertex are so "cosmic" that what one would expect for a earthly connection are not realized because not all the higher energies resonate with Human desires

But first I deal with the last pattern or "personality.this is just what you are concerned about.
Venus is sextike to mars,trine to Pluto, opposed the Saturn/Jupiter conjunction,sextile to Juno and trune to amore .
This is a very favorable pattern for committed relationships and even marriage.this is a grand sextiles with planets of love and commitment.normally I would say this is indicative or marriage,but this is not a normal chart .I share the same concerns you have whether this could work out in a " normal " manner because of all the higher energy planes that also exist.that's what I alluded to by saying there are separate personalities .either the vertex/lilith/Eros stelliym or the node/mercury/Uranus/Chiron pattern could dominate a chart,so with these and the sexual/commitment dynamic it is difficult to see if these almost separate realities could mesh .
Of course the grand sextile is the most important at this point in your life.
The uncertainty here revolves around he is sincerely in love with you or rather is he so taken by the sexual chemistry that he really isn't relating to your soul/spiritual essence.

My uncertainties revolve around 2 points one is the eris/MC square to jupiter and Jupiters conjunction to Neptune and square to nessus along with Saturn square to psyche
On one hand Jupiter/eris square could be real as great passion for a marriage.though you mentioned his ex having a panic attack which I assume had to do with you and he.Venus in the 12 the as mentioned often shows a hidden relationship which contrast with eris/MC square to Jupiter which is fully a public show of commitment so as this was a problem once it might be a problem is he publicly shows the relationship consolidating .
Now here is where it gets complicated. Jupiter conjunct to Neptune can be very disingenuous at the least .the carnal intensity could overwhelm the promise of fidelity.thus possibility is emphasized by the square of nessus to jupiter .this aspect adds to arrogance and the need to control.he might remain a support but demand control of you individuality .generally Jupiter square Neptune is very unfavorable as it shows deception and decker.here Neptune is conjunct which is not malicious by itself but still gives me concern because of the nessus square.
In addition Saturn is square to psyche.this is often a aspect of older man and younger woman but as an aspect it often associated with abusive desires if other malicious aspect exist.. such as are here .this can show a preoccupation with naive young girls.Pluto is sextlie to Jupiter which might ameliorate this a bit but . . I don't know,this one of the aspects that are confusing.

There other aspect that bears on thus question is eris conjunct to priapus opposed to the vertex.Lilith is considered somewhat of a emotional symbol while priapus,Lilith's other endpoint is concerned with sexuality on the subconscious level.the potential problem here is that sexuality could be overwhelmed by the vertex energy.I mean the vertex dies give intensity but it also bring powerful energies from other planes that can easilyvalk Hunan emotions such as love.the phantasmagoric/otherworld intensity can turn in to a obsession for sex with no regard for love.this is already a concern with eris/MC square Jupiter/Neptune.
This is such a amazing syelkium of aspects that I don't have a concrete feeling about it.but I don't think the committee grand sextike will characterized the relationship.the otherworldly aspects are too strong.

Finally looking at current transits
Moon 26sag54 8/20 a more 24pis1 9/20
Eros 21gem51 10/14 vertex 10/20-24 21sag18 priapus 11/19 21gem6
Mars 12/6 20vir11

Okay what I get is that you were really into him in late Aug -sept .
The sexual chemistry is unreal in middle Oct in til now.I would assume he wants to have you move in now as the sexual chemistry from his perspective is off the charts.
But,I speculate that the emotion connect you felt in aug has waned a bit because he has seemed to be obsession sbout sex and not so emotionally responsive.
So what I see is that he is not really concerned about the love between you now but is all about hot sex.

If so then this is not the time to move in because the vertex energy is making him obsessive about having you physically available .his priority is not bonding in love but physical satisfaction.
The vertex is fickle and when the transit is over you can find yourself with a stranger.

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In regard to the grand sextile and grand trines of love and commitment, trines and sextiles in composite do not usually correct or over ride difficult hard aspects.I have seen many very favorable trine/sextiles pattern that fail to keep a relationship viable when hard difficult aspects are present.I'm not sure why but in Natal's there does seem to be flexibility between trines/sextiles and hard aspects,but in composites that flexibility is not usually present.

posted November 20, 2020 07:19 PM            

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And also regards the neptune jupiter conjuction, are there maybe some other positives from this? I know that these planets are also sextile to pluto in our composite does that maybe ground this energy. I should also add that neptune is my 7th chart ruler in my birth chart, amd jupiter is his 7th hoise ruler. Is there any significamce with this? He is also highly neptunian and so am I so I dont imagine being in relatuonship without some neptune. But I am in tune with my neptune and I feel that he is not. Because he has a very logical brained birth chart with stellium in the 6th house. His mars and venus fall in hit 5th which are both squared by neptune. Me on the other hand I do have some deep pluto and neptune issues I am trying to work out. I am generally not afraid of plutonic or neptuniam energies as I am so acustomed to them in my everyday life. I am an 8th house sun and mercury quincunx pluto after all. I want to dig deep but I feel that he is maybe not at the moment ready for this deep energiesm but I am commited to him and inted to wait till he open up completley in the meab time I will be giving him love and devotion as I do not care about the end result, I choose to live in the present moment and love with my whole body ane soul.
I also wanred to ask about our heavy Saturn synastry which is to be expectrd hence he is so older. I highly trigger his Saturn touches every personal planet of mine. His Saturn is the lord of his 8th house hence the attraction as well. Do you think becausr I trigger this Saturn of his he is so sexually drawn to me and as well wanted to commit so quickly?
I should add that I find Saturn rekationships very good for me since I am a cap moon with quincunx to pluto and lose square to Saturn aswell.

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As to the saturn dynamics ,I don't feally took at synastry for insights to a relationship.

posted November 24, 2020 05:30 PM            

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Todd, thank you.
As to your question it is hard to know that now that I think about that. Just because we do really love each other and see each other almost every day for the last 8 months. I do feel we are slightly obssesed I most admit but I do feel love should be like this in some way. I should add that since i fell in love with him I had a huge spiritu awakening only because I knew that if I wanted to stay sane in this love we had I had to completely transform myself. I maybe feel that I was obssesed about 2 months ago but has since been forced to look deep within and tell myself that in my life I am the most impprtant. It is hard tough since we do spend so much time together and really do love eachother. I think since I had this awakening he is picking up on it and now he is a bit in a funk and going maybe trough the same thing as me.
But I do feel there are geniuine feelings of love and commitement from both sides. And as I stated I feel a huge commitment to him. He also really wishes the best for me and wants to help me out Carter wise as well. I do think he has the best intentions for me at heart and we do love each other deeply and are very happy together. Just the strengt of the feelings overwehlm me sometimes.
Also wanted the ask you how the vertex energy feels in the davison in think there it is conjuct to sun in opposition to north node, is that maybe a more stable a grounded energy. I also wanted to ask about the mystic rectangle in our davison I think we have 2 mystic rectangles (pluto, neptune, mars, venus) and pluto, venus, mars saturn. Are these maybe more stable energies? I really Just want to know about longevity and stability of out love since I do not want to sta in situations that led to nowhere. And so as regards of your comment about the transits we were both a bit obsessed but now are working on eachother, and for him I do not feel he is a predetor young women altough feel he is extremely attracted to me being so younger than him. He did one state that he doues not imagine setteling down with someone that is his age. I also think that is maybe why he didnt Settle down with his ex which is not even his ex because he never made her official, se Just imagined it. But I do not think he is here only for the sex as to he has shown interest in us longterm, is helping me and standing by myside in life currently even more than when we started. It is getting pretty serious and I sure hope he is not only here for the sex.
Thank you,
K

** edit also about his venus mars conjuction in 5th square neptune. Yes I also know this aspects are supposed to show dishonesty and infidelity but I do not like to Judje a person by few aspects. I have a horrible natal chart I have mars sesquiqadrare neptune, sun square neptune, lose venus square neptune, venus square uranus, sun square neptune, mercury square uranus and neptune, BUT I neber cheated in my life, it Just shows up as being extremely spiritual for me and being able to manifest, have vivid Dreams, night terrors etc. Some would look at my chart and claim I am a total lier or not loyal, cause this squares happen beetween 8th and 5th house as well. But I am not like that at all! So I do not like to Judje a prrson by a few aspects

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Hi ya

posted November 24, 2020 05:34 PM            

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Hi ya

I don't use davison midpoint because they are not based on astrology but rather on calenderical calculations which have nothing to do with most of the planets.
Though the sun and moon will have very similar placements,all other planets have retrograde movement which is completely lost in calenderical calculation.Davison is a philosophical system .Davison himself in later life expressed some ambivalence to his own creation.again except for the sun and moon I have never found that transits to the Davison being particularly accurate.I have read some explanations of transits and the Davison but these were after the fact.

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