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ana_bee
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posted November 18, 2020 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I’d like to know, whether this relationship has longterm potential.

Also interested in the meaning of having lilith conj the north node opposite juno/eros conj SN in synastry. I am bit concerned about this aspect, because someone once wrote that SN would diminish with time the planet/asteroid that lands on it. I don’t know how true this is. With Juno on SN one could think that the feeling of loyalty will be minimized with time.. Is it true?

Both TOBs are correct

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posted November 19, 2020 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted November 20, 2020 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone help?

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posted November 20, 2020 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I can help you! I will definitely give you my input today.

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posted November 21, 2020 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ana_bee

I' m so sorry for not getting back yesterday as I promised.

Anyways, is this long-term potential? First off I wouldn't worry so much about asteroids conjunct the South Node because the South Node is not as bad as astrologers like to make it be. I have seen married couples with strong South Node connections including my brother and his wife who are happily married. She is a bit controlling though but he likes this (7th ruler Venus in Aries R in his 5th house conjunct his Mean Lillith) so yeah...

Lilith in synastry doesn't have to be focused too much unless both of you have a prominent Lilith in your natal chart. However, I think this can be managed and talked through if there is enough love between both people.

Also, who are you in the Synastry chart? I'm going to assume that you're the Pisces in this connection.

Like I said South Node connections are not bad. They suggest a strong connection present between two people. Especially a fated karmic connection.

One thing I notice is your moon opposite his sun which is key to attraction here. Sun Moon connections in synastry are suggested and I usually see an aspect for long-term potential with this.

I had a sun-moon opposition with someone and man the affair lasted more than a year. It's a pretty strong aspect that makes both people attracted and bind naturally with each other.

His moon though is semi-sextile your sun which I don't personally like. I have had many sun semi-sextile moon connections with people I've dated and man IT SUCKS. I'm sorry to say this but it's not something I personally want if I'm gonna invest in someone in the longterm. You always end up feeling misunderstood like BADLY. and the other person doesn't get it and even if they try, your sun in Pisces will always feel butthurt because the moon in Aquarius thinks you asking for too much than they can handle. These signs don't really understand each other and it can make two people feel often misunderstood. Usually, the sun will feel this way but I've seen it go both ways.

Although he does have moon conjunct Jupiter which is nice it shows he's optimistic and fun-loving so this aspect might soften things a bit when it comes to your sun in Pisces 4th house "needs".

His north node conjunct your DESC is POWERFUL. I've seen plenty of married couples with north node conjunct DESC aspects. It's pretty fated.

Your VENUS/MARS/LILITH is right on his ASC which is also POWERFUL and super SEXY. The attraction is mutual for sure if your wondering or doubting attraction you both feel is mutual. It's not one-sided. I also see this as another married indicator as well.

I love that both of your 7th rulers are TRINE! amazing and in this case it's VENUS! I see lots of couples that have 7th ruler venus always in aspect to each other. It's pretty common for long-term relationships. I also like that your MARS is also trine his venus. He is very smitten by you.

I've had my mars in aspect to a man's venus and usually, they are also smitten.

His venus square your sun is not bad, I personally think that it's pretty common in longterm couples too. I see it pop up often sun square venus.

When it comes to your composite I do see that a relationship is bound to happen and has it potential to develop but as far as marriage goes. I'm going to have to say that this chart doesn't really reflect a lot of the marriage charts that I have looked at.

Usually, I see a lot of 7th house and 10th house placements in the composite. VENUS in the 7th in a composite is such a strong indicator for long-lasting love. HOWEVER, transits have to also be considered and so do progressions!

It's complicated to say if your relationship will lead to marriage because I'm not really a big fan of the sun in Aquarius SQUARE to pluto and juno...

I have had a composite sun square pluto before and it felt like we were always arguing and always trying to get the other to listen to our needs(we also had sun semi-sectile moon in syantry like you two). The guy I was seeing was waaaaayyy too independent, disorganized, and spent way too much time on other things like his friends, traveling, career, etc. He always felt distant in the connection and he was very dishonest. He always denied how I felt, there were times where he was understanding but at the end of the day, he wanted to do whatever he felt like doing and that was for him to spend his time apart from us connecting, so we ended the relationship.

I don't recommend it, girl. I think you better off finding someone who will not share a sun square pluto composite. But that's just my experience. PLUS pluto/Juno square the ASC in a composite usually doesn't end so well. I hate PLUTO on the ASC/DESC or square to the ASC in a composite. I usually see couples fighting and always having makeup sex.

The connection is strong though cause you have mars conjunct mercury/eros on the ASC. I get that this connection will feel hard to way away from because the composite erotic sexual aspect brings this relationship prominently sexual based. But the fundamentals to keep it healthy isn't there entirely. There are too much death and transformation/rebirth and I feel that this connection will just end up feeling exhausting in a few years.

I don't mean to sound negative or bitter towards your connection with this man. It's that I've looked at many composites, and studied pluto actively in synastry/composite and I don't usually see a prominent pluto between healthy long lasting happily ever after marriages. I know people like to say that marriage isn't always perfect and that's true but you don't need toxicity/narcissistic vibes with the one you love unless that's something you were brought up as a child and you're pretty much used to that by now. Then by all means go for it.

Also if I'm wrong that your not the Pisces. it doesn't really matter because the composite doesn't look healthy and long-lasting. I see some great sexual erotic connections here and some fun as well. but commitment until you get old with this person. I just don't see it in the composite. But I could be wrong. I hope my analysis helped you and I'm sorry for the disappointment, I'm not here to sugarcoat you or anyone in the astrology community.

PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THANK YOU!

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posted November 24, 2020 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi angel,

Thank you for taking your time and your elaborate answer, I appreciate! Also your honesty!

With us it’s a rather unusual story, because it’s me and a girl I met back in my 20s. She was my first same sex experience, we dated for 3 months, then broke it off and met again now almost 14 years later. It’s unusual on many levels, because I never felt attracted to a woman before, nor after her. So I went back to dating guys, and now I’m attracted to her again and we’re dating now. She says she loves me and I honesty feel the same way. I actually have no doubts that there’s something very substantial between us that isn’t just based on some illusion. (I’m on the inner wheel, you interpreted it right), I was just wondering and hoping there’d be long term potential for the future.

I also spotted the Pluto square to Asc and Sun.. this hasn’t played out between us (yet), though. We’re very honest and open with each other and we both talked about the kind of relationship we’d like to be in, and we’re both on the same page that it’s important for us to be transparent in our actions and motives, so no power plays and manipulations. Trust and honesty are very important to us, but we’re also aware how human nature sometimes works, so forgiveness and open communication is a key factor, too in the long run. So far it works pretty well. I’m also honestly not afraid of Pluto squares.. because I can handle them much better than squares from other outer planets, like Neptune or Saturn. I can relate to that energy, and I know how to avoid situations, that might become manipulative. So I’m hoping this won’t be too big of a problem..

I was hoping the composite 1st house stellium and the sextiles from Saturn would support that bond. To me she’s the most beautiful person inside and out.
Pluto in 10th house maybe might be the general public that wouldn’t be too fond of us being together, I don’t know. But we live in a ‘gay friendly’ country, so there isn’t a real threat, and despite that I really don’t care too much about whether anyone else would approve of us being together. She’s dated girls since she’s 14, so she doesn’t care either.

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posted November 24, 2020 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ana

Ahhh! you should've said it was a same sex relationship. I definetly have plenty of experience in that realm. I used to date girls as well for nine years. That makes a lot of sense how her uranus is trine both your venus and mars. That aspect is pretty common to see between gays/lesbians. Plus your uranus is conjunct her venus. Classic! you also have venus,mars trine uranus in your natal chart same with her but with the conjunction. I see these natal aspects pop up a lot for bisexuals and/or gay women often!!

I do think that your first house stellium receiving soft aspects from other planets is supportive indeed!!

I think you should go for it! Pluto could manifest in the aspect that others could not accept your relationship for sure or possibly one of you or the both of you had to go through a BIG TRANSOFMRATION to be together which makes sense cause you mentioned you've never been with girls before.

Well I hope everything goes well between you and her! Go with the flow and just have a good time with her. You never know where this relationship could take you.

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posted November 24, 2020 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool
It’s nice that you can relate to that!
Thank you

Yes transformation definitely on my part, but also on her’s. She was a commitment phobe back then. It took all this time and some relationship experience on her part to get to the place we’re at right now, where she feels truly comfortable to commit. Before she always ended up in relationship, where she felt pinned down after a while, and it was often times rather toxic.
I made similar experiences. I was also at a different place back then as I am now.

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posted November 25, 2020 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other takes on this situation? Maybe Todd or Luna?

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posted November 30, 2020 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We’re thinking about moving in together. Can anyone give us some more insights to this relationship please..

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posted November 30, 2020 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ana!

For some reason I feel inclined to caution you against moving in with this person right now.

The reason I feel that way is because transit Saturn is squaring the composite's IC and will until mid-December. I feel that this is just a very hasty move that may not be in your best interests for the time being. Transit Jupiter is also squaring the IC which could be blowing up (Jupiter) the impulse to rush things (square) domestically (IC) between you both.

Plus bear in mind that transit Saturn will be going over the composite Sun, Jupiter, and Venus for most of 2021-2023 when Saturn is in Aquarius, and will also be squaring the composite nodes. I'm not sure that moving in together would be the best thing to do in the near future?

Overall though I think the composite is fine and I don't see anything that spells out "doom". In fact I think it's quite fated and loving from giving it a cursatory glance. That Juno/Pluto/South Node conjunction is particularly compelling to me, indicating that you guys being together is something that fate/destiny/the gods want in this life (in my opinion).

I also like the synastry between you guys. The trine moons in particular stand out to me, as well as Mars conj ASC double whammy which shows itself in the composite. Definitely a lot of harmony/chemistry/love present between you both.

SO MUCH of your stuff falls into her 12th house which is fascinating me. Maybe this won't be a super public relationship in that sense?

Also curious to hear Todd, Stoika and Luna's take on this

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posted November 30, 2020 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you athenaia for your quick response!! I also checked the Transits and worried for a bit whether transit Saturn conj Sun or Venus would solidify the relationship or break it up.. I never experienced a transit Saturn conj to comp Sun/Venus , only oppositions and squares and so far none of my romantic relationship survived those.

12th House.. We might be more reserved when we’re in public (compared to the way I’d be with a male partner), but it’s not a conscious decision. Maybe the need for being decent is stronger. Other than that, we’re very much open about being together. So idk maybe it’s a spiritual connection..


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posted December 21, 2020 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other interpretations/ideas?

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posted December 27, 2020 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Todd, could you please have a look at this as well, and wrote what you think? Would appreciate a lot.

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