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Odette
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posted January 23, 2021 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All!
⭐️⭐️⭐️

I’m on a two week holiday... so I have some time on my hands and would love to offer some synastry/composite readings.

Also, I believe that other than the synastry/composite... a very (very!!!) significant indicator of long-term compatibility... are attachment styles, in psychology.
If you are not familiar with attachment styles - this YouTube channel is a great introduction:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2MvVkT0Toqc&list=PL0EkRjSLGY_S1DkMWh3MC2PN7h61GM36y&index=13

If you would like a reading - please post your birth data (and that of your partner). I would prefer this, because I will also look up your Chinese astrology sign and pillars.

If you’d prefer to post the charts directly - that is also ok, but I won’t be able to look at the Chinese astrology side of things.

Please also let me know your attachment styles (if you know what they are).

If you don’t - I made two quizzes that you can answer. I’ll post them in my next post. This will make it easier for me to figure out your attachment style

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I am happy to do *strictly* astrology readings... if you can’t be bothered looking up attachment styles — but I don’t think this will be as accurate.
It is totally up to you!

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*edit*🌈🌈🌈 Just one more thing!🌈🌈🌈
If you have a specific question or questions about your relationship - please post this as well!

I think this might be a better idea, as I could focus on the thing/s you are most concerned about.

Otherwise I can just post a general reading and talk about your main relationship themes.
🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

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Odette
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posted January 23, 2021 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
🧡💙❤️💛💜Quiz No. 1💜💛❤️💙🧡

About you:


⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?


⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?


⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?


🌈a)No space at all. I would want us to be together as much as humanly possible and talk several times per day, if we are not living together.


🌈b)It varies. Sometimes I feel lonely and intensely crave closeness. Other times I need my space and intensely push my partner away.


🌈c) I am very independent and would prefer to only see my partner a couple of times per week. I have a very busy schedule and relationships are not a priority.


🌈d)I like a good balance of closeness and distance.
I feel totally ok being alone and doing my own thing at times... and at other times I love and enjoy spending time with my partner. Neither me-time, nor together-time stresses me out.


⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?


🌈a)exhausting/chores/too much work/draining


🌈b)passion/heartbreak/pain/fear/healing/more pain


🌈c)love/romance/soulmate/twin soul/Disney/my other half who I couldn’t live without


🌈d) my parents 40+ yr marriage/day to day life/working together/building a life together

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Odette
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posted January 23, 2021 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
💚🧡❤️💜💙Quiz No. 2💙💜❤️🧡💚

About your partner:


⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?


⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?


⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?


⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?


⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?


🌈a) He/she is extremely intelligent and has quite a few achievements.


🌈b) He/she is really passionate and charismatic. All eyes seem to be on them in the room. They really stand out.


🌈c)He/she has a big heart, always placing others before themselves.


🌈d)He/she is very level headed and emotionally balanced. I feel safe and calm around them.

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posted January 23, 2021 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes please!

Me: 12 Feb 1992, 09:35am, Sydney Australia
Him: 5 June 1986, 5:35pm, London England


Quiz No. 1
About you:


⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?

YES


⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?

RUN AND DISTANCE MYSELF


⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?


a)No space at all. I would want us to be together as much as humanly possible and talk several times per day, if we are not living together.


⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?


c)love/romance/soulmate/twin soul/Disney/my other half who I couldn’t live without

Quiz No. 2
About your partner:


⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?

YES


⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?

NO


⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?

NO


⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?

NO


⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?


b) He is really passionate and charismatic. All eyes seem to be on them in the room. They really stand out.

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Odette
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posted January 24, 2021 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Laylay! 💗

I edited my first post to ask if people have specific questions about their relationship.

Is there anything you would like to know about.. or should I just do a general reading?

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posted January 24, 2021 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Hi Laylay! 💗

I edited my first post to ask if people have specific questions about their relationship.

Is there anything you would like to know about.. or should I just do a general reading?


Ahh sorry looks like I got in a bit quick!
I have questions regarding whether or not he feels the way I do. I'm madly in love, and he claims to be aswell but I just dont believe it. Does he affect me love/romance wise more than I affect him? I cant seem to get a commitment out of him.
Thanks ❤❤

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posted January 24, 2021 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraGirl92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hikaru29
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posted January 24, 2021 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pls do mine. 🙋🏻‍♀️🙂

I don’t normally like to post birth details but I’m curious about your Chinese astrology readings so here you go:
Me: - deleted -
He: - deleted -

Pls tell me when you’ve captured the data as I will be removing them after you’ve done so.

Specific qns: We’re going to work together...what benefits and challenges do you see in our charts? As a couple what are our strengths and pitfalls? This isn’t a fling or a new relationship btw.

My attachment style (last tested) is Fearful-Avoidant.

About your partner:

⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern? == No.

⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted? == He gets jealous but not paranoid.

⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority? == No.

⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe? == No.

⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one? == Consistent and he keeps his promise.

🌈a) He/she is extremely intelligent and has quite a few achievements. == Yes he’s a smart person.

🌈b) He/she is really passionate and charismatic. All eyes seem to be on them in the room. They really stand out. == No, he’s a low key person. Doesn’t like to draw attention to himself.

🌈c)He/she has a big heart, always placing others before themselves. == Yes and no...but he’s usually considerate of others. Not arrogant.

🌈d)He/she is very level headed and emotionally balanced. I feel safe and calm around them. == Yes, very much.

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Odette
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posted January 24, 2021 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi girls!!
Thank you for posting and also doing the quiz.
It’s good to know the attachment styles as well, because this doesn’t always go hand in hand with the astrology. It’s pretty interesting. I will tell you more about it!

I’ll try my best to post all of your readings in the next two days 💗

Hi Hikaru ⭐️ I saved your info on my Astro.com account so you can delete it now if you like! I will also delete everything from Astro.com once I post my readings.

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posted January 24, 2021 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shesaiddestroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I would be very happy if you would do mine. 🙂

Me: March 17, 1979, 12.10 Motala, Sweden
My boyfriend: April 14, 1978, 20.45 Helsingborg, Sweden

We both have the fearful-avoidant attachment style, but we are both very aware of this and it's something we both are working on.

We have been together for almost eight months and I mainly want to know the potential for this to be a lasting relationship, or just one more lesson (I feel that I have been educated enough 😑 ). I'm also very interested in past life connections and all the soulmate stuff, if that is something you look at.

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posted January 25, 2021 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Hi Hikaru ⭐️ I saved your info on my Astro.com account so you can delete it now if you like! I will also delete everything from Astro.com once I post my readings.

Cool ! Btw, if you see any karmic connections in our charts, I would like to know. I don't usually believe in past lives/karma but with him I feel a strong karmic tie (whatever you call it) and I know it's not necessarily good. This is due to a dream I had before I met him and the circumstances surrounding our meeting & relationship developments. Initially I thought we won't last long (plus people who read our charts say he would be uncommitted) but we keep going on and become stronger (to my surprise). Recently a Vedic astrologer who read my natal said that I'm already with my life partner. I'm curious why the difference in readings so if you can see anything do let me know. Thanks!

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posted January 27, 2021 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Sure thing Hikaru! I will also have a look at your karmic connections using asteroids and the draconic chart 🌈

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posted January 27, 2021 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Laylay! 🌈 I have to say that I was pretty mind blown by your synastry and composite. It is really not often that we come across such an intense connection in life so I hope you guys appreciate what you have together and never let each other go!
I think I have too much to say about it lolll so I will add in some headings.. so it’s clearer!


⭐️Synastry Aspects...⭐️

You have some amazing aspects going on and they are all in close orbs so they will be strongly felt between you.

You were asking if this is mutual... I am not psychic so I can’t be 100% sure of what he feels.. but based on the astrology it really couldn’t be more mutual!

You both have a Venus/Mars aspect in natal. You have the conjunction in Capricorn. He has the opposition in Cancer/Capricorn. This would be a strong indicator of chemistry and attraction even if your respective Venus and Mars were not in aspect in the synastry. However, in your case, the connection is even more “in sync” because the planets are also in close aspect.

This is a double whammy of sorts... because not only do you have Venus/Mars in aspect - but you also have the Venus2Venus, and Mars2Mars connections. This is a very magnetic mix. It creates that kind of energy where two people can’t stay away from each other. You really couldn’t, even if you tried! 😊 lol

When you go somewhere together as a couple, you probably seem very in sync and also look great together.. Don’t be surprised if you get a lot of compliments from friends and family saying you are the perfect couple!

This connection is also great because it shows long lasting chemistry. Sometimes Venus/Mars aspects can point to a -flash in the pan- romance... But the signs involved here are Capricorn and Cancer.. which are serious and family oriented signs. You are very much in tune and you probably both want a commitment...

You were saying you’re not sure about how committed he is. This is interesting... I think there are some miscommunications going on between you...

You are both air signs -Aquarius/Gemini and your Moons are conjunct in Taurus (in his 7th house) - This pretty much screams commitment. You are definitely his type and someone who he would be proud to introduce to his family and close friends.

He probably feels very lucky to have met you. I doubt that he has ever met a woman quite like you before. So I think he’s pretty mesmerised (not just “into you”). You also have your Uranus/Neptune tuning into the Venus/Mars cocktail... and in particular your Neptune (12th ruler) is closely opposite his Venus (7th ruler). This is a lovey dovey connection.. He might be putting you on a pedestal.

I also added some love asteroids .. and his Valentine/Eros conjunction is closely conjunct your Sun/Mercury. This is another indicator that he is strongly into you and feels love.. not just attraction. Valentine is the asteroid of pure, unconditional love. It shows a karmic soul connection between two people.

⭐️ Composite Aspects...⭐️

In the composite chart - you have the much sought after “love stellium” - Sun/Venus/Mercury all conjunct and squaring Mars. Valentine shows up again, conjunct the North Node, which points to the theme of this relationship being one of -true heartfelt love.
In the context of everything else in your relationship.. I don’t think the composite Mars square will be a major problem. If anything, “the love stellium” in and of itself can be a bit too sweet .. sugary sweet and cutesy.. so the Mars (Capricorn) square brings you a dose of honesty and reality and brings you back down to earth, when it’s needed.

In the composite - Saturn is dignified in Capricorn in a wide conjunction to Uranus and makes some nice aspects to the NN - and asteroids Valentine, Ceres and Eros (although it is opposite Chiron and it does square Amor). It doesn’t make close aspects to the personal planets.

This is not a great Saturn situation... but I wouldn’t think it is terrible either. I would say it is neutral... When Saturn figures prominently in the composite - the couple is often brought together in a very established situation. They might be working together or there might be other things that “tie” them.. whether financially or otherwise...

Since Saturn/Uranus are a bit removed from the rest of the chart - I would say that your commitment to each other and the longevity of the relationship depends a lot on both of you individually putting in the effort to make this last (you do have Saturn trine Sun in the synastry!) - rather than outside forces “tying you” together. It’s also important that you respect each other’s freedom and individuality (Uranus).
Some astrologers think Saturn is needed for a long term connection. But there are times when I have seen Saturn in situations where people were tied together for life against their will.. for instance through an unplanned pregnancy. So having a lot of Saturn is not always positive .. and having little to no Saturn is not always negative!

Also, as I was saying earlier.. the fact that the Capricorn/Cancer axis is prominent in your charts - shows that you are both emotionally mature and able (as well as willing!) to make a long term commitment.

So.... I would say the Mars square you have in composite -and- the Saturn/Uranus connection that does not aspect personal planets..... are *challenges*, but they are challenges that can be overcome.

You have some other tense aspects like - your Sun/Mercury squaring your Moons.. and his Sun squaring your Jupiter - but these are more in the “day to day problems anyone can have in a relationship” basket... like having the occasional argument..

⭐️ Mercury Problems... ⭐️

What I see as the biggest issue here is... his Mercury in Cancer. Even though this is conjunct your IC, it stands out as it is not in aspect to any of your planets. All of your other personal planets are very connected.. but his Mercury was not invited to that party 😜 ... It might be difficult for him to communicate his emotions in a clear way... Water sign Mercuries have the habit of hinting, rather than clearly stating something.

Your Mercury is very different to his. It is well-placed in Aquarius (exalted) and also conjunct your Sun. You can be pretty assertive in expressing yourself and you really have a way with words. You are probably very eloquent and quite talkative. Even though he is a Gemini and he likely appreciates and loves the way you are - the way you express yourself... the things you talk about.. etc... He might, nonetheless, feel a bit tongue tied at times. Perhaps you are more so the one doing the talking and he is mostly listening... You might even find this frustrating at times.

If you feel like you don’t completely trust his feelings for you.. I’m pretty sure this is a communication problem.. because he does seem to have deep feelings.

I would say that actually he is the more emotional person out of the two of you... You are more level headed and a bit more detached. Even though he’s an air sign - he has stronger influence in water -Scorpio AC/Mercury/Venus in Cancer... and Sun conjunct Chiron/8th house ..

⭐️Chinese-Western Astrology Combination⭐️

This is actually also echoed in the Chinese astrology.. I usually look at the year sign and the hour sign - in compatibility, but the day sign can also be relevant. You are a monkey (year) and snake (hour)... whereas
he is a tiger (year) and rooster (hour).

In men this tiger/rooster mix can come across as very masculine but he is actually a lot more emotional than he seems. Being monkey/snake (plus your western Aquarius/Capricorn placements) you are pretty cerebral.. so you find it easier to detach from a situation and see things in a more objective light.

Tigers can be a bit too caught up in their emotions and also their ego. He is definitely a passionate person with this mix.. but it’s possible he doesn’t always think things through as much as you would.

We’ve had some threads on Chinese astrology and talked about famous people of different signs and how it impacts appearance and personality. Different astrologers have different takes on this.. but I think it does have an impact on looks and body language.. and the general energy/vibe you get from a person. I’m pretty good at guessing people’s Chinese signs.. sometimes better than I am at guessing their Western chart.. so I’m pretty confident that this is relevant!

The way I have noticed this play out is that... when two people are compatible in Chinese astrology.. the Western synastry and composite readings are a lot more relevant for them.. because these people are likely to get close enough to really have a connection.

When the Chinese signs are incompatible.. there is almost like an instant aversion... and it’s more difficult for them to even start a relationship or friendship.

In your relationship - tiger/monkey is a good match.. these signs can be very attracted to each other as both are confident and have strong personalities so they are often surrounded by people. Your hour signs -rooster/snake are an even better match since they are in the same “triangle”.. which is the same as being trine.. in Western astrology. I think you felt comfortable around each other very quickly.. as you have similar/compatible energy levels.

The hour signs are also connected to physical appearance ... He has Scorpio AC/Rooster hour.. and you have Aries AC/Snake hour.. You both have the Martian influence going on, and the Rooster/Snake trine.. This is definitely an indication that you look great together and are very well matched physically.

⭐️ Attachment Issues ⭐️

Based on your answers.. I think you are both likely to be fearful avoidant in attachment. This is a pretty complex area of psychology and I can’t be totally sure that this is your attachment style. If you are interested and read more about it, let me know what you think! If you think you guys might have a different attachment style, then obviously what I am saying here won’t apply so much...

So... fearful avoidant... I’m not a fan of these labels, because they are a bit misleading. But basically what this means is that.. you have a strong desire to be in a close loving relationship, but you also have strong fears attached to this. There are varied explanations of attachment styles.. The majority see it as a behaviour pattern that originates in childhood based on your closest relationship/s with your caregivers.... mainly the primary caregiver (usually the mother).

There are different perspectives on this as well.. Some see it as a behaviour pattern that changes throughout your life depending on other close relationships you have as an adult... so it isn’t necessarily something that is “set” from an early age or unchangeable.
Others claim that you can have a certain attachment style in a certain relationship - and be quite different in terms of attachment in another relationship (depending on the other person).

Personally.. I think there is more of a “set” pattern with people.. that they seem to have in several relationships. But this is just my take on it!

Either way, based on your answers I would say that you are probably more in the “fearful avoidant” ballpark.. at least in your interaction towards each other.. There are some good things about this, but there are also some problems and things that you would need to work on.

The good part is that you both genuinely want to have a loving long-term and exclusive relationship, and you are both empathetic people who have the ability to let each other “in” and really be a team together.. When things are positive between you -you would feel like an “us”.. like true soulmates merging.. You wouldn’t feel like two separate individuals “just dating” - This is a level of closeness that some of the other attachment types have difficulty dealing with.

The problems start when.. either one of you (but even more so him, because of his more emotional watery placements) feels triggered by something...
It can be a minor thing.. or a more major thing.. but whatever it is - you are likely to perceive it as a threat.. and possibly panic that the relationship will end badly or that you will be cheated on, left, betrayed in some way...

Generally... fearful-avoidants are not great at communicating things “out loud” when problems like this crop up. They are more likely to become very upset, possibly angry and react by either withdrawing or behaving badly towards the partner (showing discontent, but not really explaining what their problem is).

For example... let’s say the gf of a fearful-avoidant guy tells him she will be back from *insert event* in time for dinner... but she gets back an hour late.. The FA guy might inwardly panic about it and make up scenarios as to why this happened... but instead of being vulnerable and clearing the air - he would be more likely to pick an argument over something totally unrelated and possibly completely trivial... like “why she left the ketchup outside of the fridge again... “ - and he could be strangely intense about it - “OMG.. I told you I always put the ketchup in the fridge. Why do you have to do this? Do you really not care about me at all and how I feel about the ketchup?!! #fml 🔥💔🤬”

In your relationship - even though you might both be FA.. I think you are much better at communicating with him when you have an issue, because you have a happy/exalted Mercury and you generally find it easier to communicate.

He, on the other hand... with the Cancer Mercury... could keep his fears under wraps for a long time... and keep hinting at problems rather than telling you how he feels.

You were asking how he feels and why you’re not seeing a proper commitment from him...

Judging by how intense this connection is astrologically... and considering that he is likely to be FA - he is probably very scared.

The more intense and emotionally close a relationship is, the more an FA person would feel triggered and fearful about losing their partner.
This is probably compounded by his inability to communicate and express himself ... and the fact that his Cancer Mercury is un-aspected in the synastry. He definitely feels a strong attraction (your Moons conjunct and opposite your Pluto, his Venus opposite your Uranus/Neptune and the Venus/Mars cocktail) .. so he is probably insecure about it.. maybe he has thoughts that you are too good for him, putting you on a pedestal.. and that he doesn’t deserve you.. that you’ll eventually drop him anyway ... these are all very common thoughts with the FA attachment.

FA can also be hyper vigilant ... and pick up on small changes in behaviour and interpret everything as possibly leading to rejection..

It might seem strange for a guy who appears very self-confident (Tiger/Rooster and Cap Mars/Sco AC) to be so emotionally vulnerable... but being FA *plus* those Cancer placements ... he could be hiding a lot of insecurity under the surface.

I would say that he needs more reassurance that you wouldn’t leave him.. and that you are actually in this for the long haul.

You don’t have much water in your chart. Cancer can be a very sentimental sign.. and they are (this will sound funny but...) - particularly sentimental about food! Cancer rules the stomach so those old-school sayings about how the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach - apply to Cancer!

Being Aquarius with Aries and Capricorn in the mix you might not like the idea of being so traditional - like cooking for him... but I really feel like this guy needs some TLC from you - to be able to express how he feels and get closer.

They can be very sentimental especially about things from their childhood... like their favourite food as a kid.. things that remind them of home and family...
If you try to tune into his sentimental watery side - I think he will feel safer around you and won’t hold back so much.. He is probably a bit intimidated...

⭐️⭐️⭐️Phew... so I ended up writing more about this than I intended but you have a very intense relationship and there are a lot of different things going on!

I really hope this does work out between you, because you have some amazing and very positive aspects 💗
Let me know how close I was with the reading! I’m curious if this applies to you.. and if you have any other questions!⭐️⭐️⭐️

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posted January 27, 2021 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my Odette I have to say I am
Completely.
Blown.
Away!
Absolute amazing accuracy.. like more so than I would have believed!
I think I have just as much to say in my response than you did in your answer but I'll try keep it short.
Your interpretation about him not being able to express what he truly feels.. This explains alot. In fact he made a comment to me yesterday that he is scared that if he asked to me to be his girlfriend again I would say no and that he is happy with how we are right now (in this weird exclusive but not exactly committed grey area relationship 🤦🏻‍♀️ but that just confirms what you said about his fear/s. We have tried to not talk to each other but we just cant. We've really tried.. we are like magnets.
I definitely noticed the unaspected mercury- and with this the only incorrect interpretation is me being the talker and him being the listener.. in fact it's the other way around he dominates as EVERY conversation and I barely ever get a word in.. we never talk about me but he is trying to be mindful of that and let me talk 😂 he says he cant help it he just has so much to say and I'm the only person that will listen haha. Every conversation is basically me going "yep" "aha" "mhmm" 😂
I genuinely didnt believe he could be committed to me. I had a reading from Liz Greene as well as a comment from Graham here on the forum who pointed out that "I activate his desire nature i.e the warrior archetype" which basically meant he may not be able to.live in the confines of a traditional partnership 😪 but I'm hoping our insanely strong connection can damper that. We also have DW moon trine mars and as we both have moon in taurus and Mars in capricorn its quite.. sexy 😉
The monkey/snake and tiger/rooster is also spot on. He is basically an attention seeker and extremely confident but I also forget about the water in his chart and I will try to appeal to that emotional and sentimental side of him. I think he's a 'false bravado' kinda guy .. I forget about the tender and sensitive side to him as I dont see it much anymore.
I actually did some research and I concluded I was FA so the fact you've said this as well pretty much confirms it. I do believe he is FA too but the difference is he cant let go of people where as I can (except him 😂 . Ohhh and the food.. he is not much of an eater in fact he is underweight however he is a qualified chef (ironic 🤔 but no longer works in the kitchen as he does not have a passion for food.. so this is quite interesting .. I have been meaning to make him some home cooked food and I wonder if this will help with him feeling the kinda TLC that I'm not really familiar with giving lol.
Thankyou so much your reading put such a smile on my face and I think now I can move forward with a more positive outlook on myself and ourselves as a couple
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

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Awwwwwww I’m so glad this helped! ❤️❤️❤️I really think you have something special ❤️, so if he can’t commit to you... I honestly don’t know who in the world he could ever commit to, in general...

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I actually did some research and I concluded I was FA so the fact you've said this as well pretty much confirms it. I do believe he is FA too but the difference is he cant let go of people where as I can (except him 😂 . Ohhh and the food.. he is not much of an eater in fact he is underweight

I do get the FA vibe from his behaviour... but it’s a bit confusing because he doesn’t sound like the most straight forward FA lol

Another way to figure out attachment styles is to look at dating history...

Usually a fearful avoidant person will have more dating experience than the other types. FA men in particular... can have a string of short lived relationships that they throw themselves into but then run away from..
They will usually have stories of heartbreak and sometimes project the past heartbreak onto to the present situation... At some point, they will definitely talk about their past relationships - and generally put a pretty negative spin on what happened.

A dismissive avoidant guy.. will have a pretty empty dating history. So you might hear that he was celibate for a while, maybe even a few years.. He’ll say that he just likes his independence and doesn’t mind being single... FA will almost always complain about being single and feeling lonely.
With DA.. even if he wasn’t celibate - he would’ve had relationships that were more like flings or possibly FWB... but not a *true* relationship.

Anxious preoccupied would (considering your synastry) be totally crazy about you and ask you to marry him tomorrow. So I’m pretty sure he is not the anxious type Loll 😁 They really wear their hearts on their sleeves.

A “secure attachment” guy.. would by the age of 34/35, either be already happily married.. or if he was divorced - the marriage would’ve lasted quite some time (at least 5 yrs).. and he would have a very balanced way of talking about his ex.. You wouldn’t hear any horror stories.. as you might from FA.

These are all generalisations.. but it’s another way you could figure this out!

My interpretation would change a bit if he was Dismissive or Secure.. just because he probably wouldn’t be as emotionally expressive. You are still extremely compatible either way... but it would take a bit more effort to be with him if he is DA.

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I had a reading from Liz Greene who pointed out that "I activate his desire nature i.e the warrior archetype" which basically meant he may not be able to.live in the confines of a traditional partnership

I love Liz Greene’s books. She is very knowledgeable but I do feel like she is a bit slanted to the negative on certain things.

The idea that he might not at all be able to have a traditional relationship, or that this would make him feel confined - goes hand in hand with being Dismissive.

Knowing everything I know about attachment now... I don’t actually think people can have such a serious problem with commitment ... unless they are in the ballpark of DA.
But this is just my two cents.

If he is more FA then this probably wouldn’t apply to him... because he would still have a strong desire for a relationship in his life (despite his fears). He would be more afraid of getting hurt and losing you... rather than.. afraid of being “confined” (which is the DA fear).

But even being DA (which is the most difficult type in relationships) - because your synastry is so connected and intense.. I would still have high hopes that he’ll make an effort to change his ways for you! 😊
The only thing is that everything would happen at a slower pace. I’m not sure whether you would get tired of him...

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My birth info= April 6, 1999 5:11 am in trenton, nj
Him= 12/27/1995 9:16 pm in Manhattan, NY

About you:


⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?

No. I usually feel excited about the possibility of falling in love.

⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?

try to get closer to keep an eye on my S/O.

⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?

🌈d)I like a good balance of closeness and distance.
I feel totally ok being alone and doing my own thing at times... and at other times I love and enjoy spending time with my partner. Neither me-time, nor together-time stresses me out.


⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?

🌈c)love/romance/soulmate/twin soul/Disney/my other half who I couldn’t live without

💚🧡❤️💜💙Quiz No. 2💙💜❤️🧡💚
About your partner:


⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?

No. He came on strongly to me and I didn't like him that much.

⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?

no.

⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?

Somewhat. He works a lot but he checks in with me.

⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?

No.

⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?


🌈a) He/she is extremely intelligent and has quite a few achievements.

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posted January 27, 2021 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maleja.rangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Odette! Would you mind doing one for me, please?

Thank you so much for this and would be of great help understanding. (been together for a few years now, I met him when I was like 15)

Me
10 AUGUST 1994
10:35 AM
CUCUTA - COLOMBIA

MyPartner
13 FEBRUARY 1984
10:59 AM
MERIDA - VENEZUELA


🧡💙❤️💛💜Quiz No. 1💜💛❤️💙🧡
About you:

⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?

YES

⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?

TRY TO GET CLOSER AND MAKE SURE IM ALWAYS THERE. (NOT WITHOUT DRAMA HAHA)


⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?

I like a good balance of closeness and distance.I feel totally ok being alone and doing my own thing at times... and at other times I love and enjoy spending time with my partner. Neither me-time, nor together-time stresses me out.

⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?

my parents 40+ yr marriage/day to day life/working together/building a life together (WITH RESPECT AND LOVE)


💚🧡❤️💜💙Quiz No. 2💙💜❤️🧡💚
About your partner:

⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?

YES! it happens sometimes and we have been in some ups and downs for the same reason.

⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?

NO, NEVER

⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?

NO, LIKE WE KNOW OUR SPACES.

⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?

WHEN HE WANTS TO BE INTENSE, HE IS PRETTY INTENSE HAHA BUT I LOVE IT, BUT ITS LIKE HE GETS SCARED AND JUST STOP, I GUESS HE IS FEELING A LOT WHEN HE DO IT SO THATS THE REASON WHY HE GETS COLD.

⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?

He/she is really passionate and charismatic. All eyes seem to be on them in the room. They really stand out.(HE IS VERY CREATIVE, HAS A LOT OF FRIENDS, VERY SOCIAL BUT ALSO LIKE TO BE ALONE ON HIS OWN :d)

Thank you so much Odette, a big hug for you <3


PS: BTW, I feel an really strong connection with him and he does with me, we have been trought very difficult things but that kind of situations always make us stick more intensely together. Like people always think we are going to break up for some reason hahahaha, and we really don't and everytime its getting stronger and stronger.

It scares me a lot because I know we have really difficult aspects in both charts but I like astrology because it help us to find solutions but not a final thing.

it's with the first person I feel like I know from many lives, its like we are making the same patterns but just trying to go out from that. I don't why I feel like that but its very strong sensation we were a couple in a past life with many unresolved issues. (I don't know if you can see that haha)
and also, I sometimes feel he is very scared to be hurt and open, he has a big wound with his mother death, my question really is if he feels like growing up and healing with me? I really don't know if he can feel a close emotional connection with me and the relationship, I have checked a lot of things finding answers, like midpoints, composite midpoints to natals, natals midpoints to synastry, Parallels and Contra-Parallels and everytime I find something new.

Thank you again <3

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posted January 27, 2021 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This seems like fun and thank you for offering readings I decided just to answer the questions about me. Since we are still in the friend's phase. But I would like to know if there is the potential for actually having a relationship.

Me

Place of birth: Detroit, Michigan
Date of birth: April, 21st, 1987
Time of birth: 2:49 PM

Him

Place of birth: Naperville, Illinois
Date of birth: November, 3rd, 1991
Time of birth:8:30 AM


🧡💙❤️💛💜Quiz No. 1💜💛❤️💙🧡
About you:


⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?


Answer: I usually always have fears of abandonment. But I feel scared like I want to run when things get too close.


⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?


Answer: I usually try to do things to sabotage the connection.

⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?

Answer: Both B & C

🌈b)It varies. Sometimes I feel lonely and intensely crave closeness. Other times I need my space and intensely push my partner away.


🌈c) I am very independent and would prefer to only see my partner a couple of times per week. I have a very busy schedule and relationships are not a priority.

⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?

Answer: Passion, Pain, Fear, More pain, and a lot of responsibility.

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quote:
Originally posted by maleja.rangel:
PS: BTW, I feel an really strong connection with him and he does with me, we have been trought very difficult things but that kind of situations always make us stick more intensely together. Like people always think we are going to break up for some reason hahahaha, and we really don't and everytime its getting stronger and stronger.

It scares me a lot because I know we have really difficult aspects in both charts but I like astrology because it help us to find solutions but not a final thing.


This is the one you posted In the other thread, isn’t it? Anyway, I just wanna say that I relate to what you said above. Everyone (even myself) thought I wouldn’t last even a few months with my guy but we became closer and stronger. We also have some tough aspects indicating a lack of commitment but reality turned out to be different. Now it seems that he’s clutching me tighter than I’m clutching him (lol) but we’re so private no one could tell. Everyone is different so same aspects in 2 different charts can play out differently.

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Hello Odette, this is so kind for you to do! I would appreciate if you could do one for me and the guy I’ve been seeing - things have been quite rocky between us. I don’t usually but my birth details out there but I would love to know if you see any type of future here and what are some challenges vs blessings with this connection so here it is:

About Me:


⭐️1. When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?
OMG yes definitely

⭐️2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?

I try to get closer and make sure I always am keeping an eye on my S/O

⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?

🌈a)No space at all. I would want us to be together as much as humanly possible and talk several times per day, if we are not living together

This is funny to me ^ because I get mad when other people do it to me yet I do it as well

⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?

🌈b)passion/heartbreak/pain/fear/healing/more pain

🌈c)love/romance/soulmate/twin soul/Disney/my other half who I couldn’t live without

I put both, because C is what I want but B is often what I end up with

About him:

⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?
YES

⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?
NO

⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?
YES YES YES

⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?

NO
⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?

🌈d)He/she is very level headed and emotionally balanced. I feel safe and calm around them.

I think this would describe him most although sometimes I feel like he is emotionally unavailable

Thank you Odette

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posted January 30, 2021 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Odette
I would love a reading please ,thank you so much!

I have an idea of my attachment style but i will take the quiz below because i am not 100% sure what it is.


Birthdate details below :

Mine:
22 March 1990
4.06am
Kuala lumpur, Malaysia

His :
15 August 1989
10.15am (estimated around 10-10.30am)
Lahore, Pakistan

⭐️1.When you start to develop feelings for someone (as the relationship gets closer) do you have strong fears of abandonment or betrayal?

YES I DO

⭐️[b]2. If you feel afraid of being hurt or betrayed in love, is your reaction to this - to run and distance yourself from the relationship - or to try to get closer and make sure you are always keeping an eye on your S/O?

BOTH ACTUALLY. RUN AND DISTANCED YET KEEP AN EYE TOO ON MY S/O


⭐️3. How much space do you need in a romantic relationship?

ANSWER :

🌈b)It varies. Sometimes I feel lonely and intensely crave closeness. Other times I need my space and intensely push my partner away.


⭐️4. What are the first things that come to mind when you think “romantic relationship”?

ANSWER :

🌈b)passion/heartbreak/pain/fear/healing/more pain

EDITED TO INCLUDE QUIZ 2

Quiz No. 2

About your partner:


⭐️1. Would you say your S/O came on very strongly in the beginning and then pulled back in an abrupt -almost inexplicable- hot/cold pattern?

NO. MOSTLY SLOW STARTING OUT. TOOK A WHILE TO ADMIT TO WANTING DEEPER COMMITMENT

⭐️2.Does your S/O habitually criticise you or accuse you of cheating, betrayal etc.? Do you feel distrusted?

NO. I FEEL HE TRUSTS ME FULLY

⭐️3. Do you feel as though your S/O is always busy, always working or always spending time with their friends and not making you a priority?

SOMETIMES YES.

⭐️4.Do you feel as though your S/O is almost 24/7 involved in your life, calling, texting, setting up dates, emailing... barely ever giving you space to breathe?

NOPE.HE IS PRETTY CHILLED WITH ME HAVING MY OWN INTERESTS AND LIFE

⭐️5. What is your S/O’s main quality - if you had to choose one?


🌈d)He/she is very level headed and emotionally balanced. I feel safe and calm around them. [/B][/QUOTE]


Question(s)

-Would our marriage in the future be good? Ie happy and fulfiling for both of us

- What do i need to understand about our relationship, myself ,him or all 3 in order to give my best self to our relationship and make it a success.

Thanks so much again Odette

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that's interesting!
I love attachment style since I'm an anxious preoccupied on
I'm born 12.12.1990 22:06 Nuremberg

I don't know what he is.. I think fearful avoidant
5.5.1990 13.54 in saitama japan

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