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AlmaRegulus
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posted April 20, 2021 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please help me with understanding better the purpose and perspectives of this recent relationship. Will it transcend to some deep bonding? Did he just intend to manipulate me when he called me his soulmate? Is the purpose of it just to transform my sexuality? (I've been celibate for a dozen of years)

Synastry - I'm on the outside

Synastry with a different set of asteroids

Composite

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posted April 21, 2021 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Randall for bumping up!))

A few aspects which particularly interest me are Venus on MC DW and in the composite. In the composite it falls on his Pluto and on the midpoint of composite Pluto-Saturn. Is this something significant? Is it equivalent to Pluto-Venus in a synastry?

We know each other through work but keep our connection private. So not so much Midheaven stuff.

At the same time composite Saturn & Karma are on my Ascendant, and composite Valentine and Pluto are on his Descendant.

Another one is Sun conjunct Uranus in both composite and Davison. At the same time they are rulers of 1 & 7 houses in both charts. Can it be anything more than a fling? We are completely different in regards with the age, ethnicity, religion. My rational side keeps telling me that this is not viable... that I should run. He is also very critical of my mystical side, in fact he hates it. And I am at this stage of life when I would like to have a child, whereas he is 8 years younger than me and not into this life stage at all.

A sexual attraction is strong but there is always this friends' vibe. So I wonder if there can be anything more to it than passion and friendship. There is this exact Amor-Valentine conjunction, how reliable is it? Would Valentine feel more than Amor? And his Alma conjunct my North Node, my Part of Fortune conjunct his North Node. Does it really matter?

And a composite Sun is on my Sun-Moon midpoint whereas a composite Moon is on his Sun-Moon midpoint.

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posted April 23, 2021 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I will just keep discussing with myself)) although I would really appreciate someone's cold-headed look! I am really new to asteroids, so it seems to me now that it's just because they are so numerous, there are so many conjunctions. Do they mean anything at all?

So, other things that I've discovered. His asteroid name in my chart is on my IC. My asteroid name in his chart is close to my Venus within 3*. His asteroid name is conjunct Siva in his chart and both conjunct tightly my Moon, Jupiter and Saturn. His Kaali is conjunct my Amor. My name and Pholus are conjunct his Priapus. In Draco-Draco his name and Siva are conjunct my Amor, his Kaali is conjunct my Siva and his Amor is conjunct my Parvati.

All this is a bit weird, no? Is it normal to have so many conjunctions? I was kind of attributing the chemistry to a wide Pluto-Asc conjunction and Ascendants in opposite signs, probably my Lilith & Juno on his Dsc. But here I see all these tantric asteroids. Oh yes, and we have Moon-Vesta DW. I kind of wish for some tantric merging, but he is an utmost materialist.

My main dilemma is that I don't believe that this can be long-term (I am 8 years older), and I am at this stage of my life with a ticking clock to make a baby. So my rational side keeps telling me that I need to find someone else for that purpose. Unless of course he is my soulmate but I doubt it.

Can you please look if we are destined to have a baby together? Is it significant that my Vesta, Isis and Osiris are on his Moon and Child, his Pholus is opposite my Child, his Mars is on my 5th house cusp? In the composite Isis and Osiris are conjunct (also a conjunction between my Isis/Osiris and his Isis and Moon and Child in synastry).

In my progressions and solar arc directions I see a possibility of a marriage and a child in the next couple if years, so I am a bit afraid to get stuck with him because of this chemistry if he is not the one and hates everything mystical about me. I feel very lost cause I didn't have a relationship for a dozen of years, I have zero experience. Maybe what seems to me this special chemistry is just normal sex? I have no idea, but he also mentioned the chemistry thing, and while I claimed that I was asexual, he thinks I am more sexual than average.

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posted April 24, 2021 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite shows transiting node square mars and conjunct the sun/Uranus midpoint recently,he seems to be free wheeling now.
I think the mythological intensity has played out but from may to July there are aspects of great shared knowledge.the will be a very powerful enteric connection and your intellects will be challenged.
This speaks of a professional intimacy but not a romantic matter .this bodes a good friendship.

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posted April 24, 2021 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Todd! Thank you so much!!! I was losing hope for a reply.))

You are right, we just had one more Uranian conversation that he wouldn't mind if I see someone else but at the same time he wants to continue with me since he's experienced such chemistry only once in his life before.

As for professional mind connection, it's actually a bit the opposite. Our minds strangely don't connect despite a trine of Mercuries in a synastry. What bothers him most is my mystical side. So it's this intellectual / world view disconnect which makes him question the long-term longetivity of our relationship. At the same time the rare chemistry makes him want to continue.

You see there's also composite Chiron touched by transiting nodes? Nothing good I guess...

Also, composite Mars us conjunct his North Node and my Part of Fortune.

I guess transit Uranus in opposition to composite Venus is not very optimistic either...

At the same time during all this time transit Pluto was trining composite Moon, Vesta and now Juno, and about to trine composite North Node. I feel transit Pluto is significant since on the day of the first kiss transit Moon was conjunct transit Pluto, trining composite Moon and in exactly on his Amor/ my Valentine conjunction square to my Pluto.

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posted April 24, 2021 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yea Chiron opposed to the sun in the composite can be contentious or uniting.As you spoke of your intellectual differences,this opposition is very unfavorable.
But there is one way that might derange his neurons.
When the nodal axis transits the composite sun/Chiron opposition, in a couple of weeks,there will be a psychic or para normal ambience around you when you are together.
This may affect him mentality/psychologically.
This relationship could prove very good for the future.not in a emotional vein though.

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posted April 25, 2021 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot Todd!

By t-square you mean transit Uranus/Sun/Venus square transit Saturn square poor composite Venus? It will also involve a square to my nodes at 10* Aqua-Leo and to his Pluto at 11* Scorpio. Inconjunct to composite Sun-Chiron opposition.

You mean "not in an emotional vein" = not in a romantic vein?

I would also want to ask you if you might have time to reply. What is the relative importance of transits to composite, transits to progressed composite, progressed composite alone, progressed composite to natal and progressed charts?

Thus, in the progressed composite we have the following:

Moon conj Venus, Eros conj Asc >> first meeting, work context, non-romantic

New Moon; Part of Fortune conj Dsc >> start seeing each other within 1* orb +/-

Moon applying to Persephone >> closest Moin aspect

Sun sextile Valentine

Part of Fortune opposite Eros (exact 26apr21, i.e. now with all these talks)

Part of Fortune conj Psyche

- and more lasting effects:
*Psyche opposite Eros on his Nodes
*Kaali opposite Siva
*my name conj Kaali
*Venus square Mars >> applying, Mars sextile North Node, Venus quincunx North Node
*Mercury square Mars >> I guess our arguments on workd views
*Vertex is approaching Dsc
*Dsc applying to Osiris
*Psyche conj Isis
*Pluto conj Proserpine
*Dsc trine Sun
*Union trine Amor

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posted April 25, 2021 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is our progressed composite for now:

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posted April 25, 2021 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our name asteroids are -

in a composite: mine 22*25 Aqua (on my natal Kaali), his 18*45 Sagittarius

in a progressed composite: mine 7*46 Pisces, his 3*36 Capricorn

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posted April 25, 2021 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And for progressed composite -

Progr. Composite to HIS progressions:
*Asc trine Sun >> the aspect will hold for a while
Asc trine NewMoon
NewMoon trine Sun
his progr Asc/Pholus applying to composite Uranus; now on Uranus-Sun midpoint
his Asc/Pholus inconjunct Moon/ Pluto

Progr. Composite to MY progressions:
*Asc conj Sun >> the aspect will hold for a while
NewMoon sextile Sun >> started seeing each other

Progr. Composite to HIS natal:
Asc conj North Node >> first meeting non-romantic
Eros conj North Node >> first meeting but still holds now
Psyche applying to South Node
Siva conj his Moon
Kaali & my name opposite his Moon
Moon approaching his Amor (conj my Valentine)
BML Lilith approaching his Sun

Progr. Composite to MY natal:
NewMoon sextile Asc >> started seeing each other
Moon conj my Venus & approaching my Valentine (conj his Amor)

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posted April 25, 2021 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now he kind of backed off saying that he suggested that I would see someone else just to see my reaction...

I was actually on the verge of breaking up myself.

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posted April 25, 2021 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a relationships , node transits are the most reliable.

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posted April 25, 2021 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Todd! I've learned a new technique from you!

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posted April 25, 2021 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are conjunct the anti-vertex and he is conjunct the mercury/Uranus midpoint. He has innate brilliance but not the discipline to sustain his visions.
You bring the portal to realms he does not know he seeks.

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posted April 26, 2021 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Todd, this is so spot-on! Totally! about his brilliance and lack of discipline, although he still works very hard as a packed natal Virgo and 6th houser. But he has a tendency to go in all directions.

And about me being a portal to realms he doesn't know he seeks! That is so so true. I feel exactly that when he keeps being annoyed by my mystical views, astrology etc.

I hate being on the anti-vertex though LOL. Does it make me more interested in the relationship? clingy? While he will be this Uranian runner?

The bad part is that in our work setting my other views are completely unacceptable. I usually don't share that part of my life with my colleagues. But with him I have a compulsive desire to share these views, which only provokes him questioning what are we doing together and why he finds himself kissing passionately with this coocoo that he despises.

Our work field is quite Uranian though, I don't know if it can smoothen this Uranus in Composite and Davison. Strangely, we got intimate when South Node was on composite Uranus, although at the same time there was a lot of drama paralelly - are we stopping or not...

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posted April 26, 2021 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what this Chiron on the cusp of the 5th means. And is there a possibility that we were brought together to make a child?

Child in the composite is at 27*33 Libra opposite to Part of Fortune and exactly inconjunct the North Node.

And Union is at 17*10 Libra which seems to be a Moon/Venus midpoint.

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posted April 26, 2021 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, and in Davison my name is conjunct Dsc, how is it possible!

I am shocked by name asteroids. How is it possible that in my Draco natal my name is on my Asc, and in Tropical Natal my Asc is conjunct with an asteroid which is a constituent of a name of the city where I was born! How??!

And now my name is stuck on the anti-vertex and Dsc with this guy, while he is all Uranian. Will I be stuck in my feelings forever?...

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posted April 26, 2021 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, here I've used the asteroids that I've read on another thread you prefer to use in composites. Now this looks much more sado-maso, right?

There was no space for Ixion, but it conjuncts Saturn exact. Karma conjuncts my natal Asc, and Venus/Dejanira/Destinn/MC conjunct his Pluto in the 7th house and the ruler of the 7th house. Dejanira most exactly.

Orcus is at 5*46 Leo widely conjunct Jupiter.

So, I guess the most troublesome is Nessus on Vertex opposite my name, Dejanira on Venus/MC on his Pluto. What does it mean?

As for other midpoints, I found the following ones:
Sun/Moon = Pluto
Saturn/Pluto = Venus & MC (and other stuff like Dejanira )
Moon/Venus = Union

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posted April 26, 2021 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And here is the Davison.

In Davison my name is at 21*47 Aqua, his name is at 18*28 Sagittarius

Amor 2*30 Gemini widely conjunct Chiron
Valentine 5*38 Scorpio conjunct Pluto

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posted April 26, 2021 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Wow Todd, this is so spot-on! Totally! about his brilliance and lack of discipline, although he still works very hard as a packed natal Virgo and 6th houser. But he has a tendency to go in all directions.

And about me being a portal to realms he doesn't know he seeks! That is so so true. I feel exactly that when he keeps being annoyed by my mystical views, astrology etc.

I hate being on the anti-vertex though LOL. Does it make me more interested in the relationship? clingy? While he will be this Uranian runner?

The bad part is that in our work setting my other views are completely unacceptable. I usually don't share that part of my life with my colleagues. But with him I have a compulsive desire to share these views, which only provokes him questioning what are we doing together and why he finds himself kissing passionately with this coocoo that he despises.

Our work field is quite Uranian though, I don't know if it can smoothen this Uranus in Composite and Davison. Strangely, we got intimate when South Node was on composite Uranus, although at the same time there was a lot of drama paralelly - are we stopping or not...


Conjunctions to the vertex very often brings
obessessive feelings.here you seemed to be obsessed with him.you might be more of a obessesion to him than you thought with him backtracking a but about affections.

I don't read Davison charts as they are not based on astrology but the calendar .

It is interesting that you got together under a Uranus transits.so you got to is uranian side.but Uranus usually is a marker of flings and not serious emotional bonding.
But the Jupiter/Venus square midpoint is conjunct to Juno/vesta and the moon is favorable for a serious relationship.

Still mars square Uranus is very solitary in terms of relationships.
In addition the sun/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the south node which usually shows the male to be hesitant.
With the strong Uranus aspect and strong Saturn energy,a relationship is usually off and on.this can go on for years but the bipolar nature of this type of hookup usually tires one of the partners out.

You might read my thread on the Spider Line forum,as it gives a brief explanation on the underlying dynamics of astrology. This might be helpful if he asks why you believe in astrology.

The coming node transit of the composite sun/Chiron opposition might stimulate him to ask serious questions rather than just ridicule you.

Nessus with you and the vertex implies you have had abusive periods in your life that might contribute to a mistrust of men .

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posted April 28, 2021 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Todd thank you so much! I am smitten by how you analyze composites! How do you find midpoints and aspects to them so effortlessly? Is it your mathematical eye? Is there any way to see them at astro.com?

For aspects to midpoints you only consider conjunctions, oppositions and squares, right? Do you find any other aspects important in a composite?

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With the strong Uranus aspect and strong Saturn energy,a relationship is usually off and on.this can go on for years but the bipolar nature of this type of hookup usually tires one of the partners out.

This is sooo true. It's been recent but it just keeps being bipolar. Apart from the composite, he has a natal Uranus/Saturn conjunction and it's on my anti-vertex. It's him who pursued me initially, and it's him who is saying some crap from time to time, I get distant, he brings me back etc.

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Conjunctions to the vertex very often brings
obessessive feelings.here you seemed to be obsessed with him.you might be more of a obessesion to him than you thought with him backtracking a but about affections.

I am generally obsessive

You mean that because my name is on the anti-vertex in the composite, HE might be obsessed as well? Or it's only me.

In a synastry my Moon, Saturn and Jupiter are conjunct his Sun and Vertex, but a bit widely for his Vertex, about 5* orb with my Moon.

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You might read my thread on the Spider Line forum,as it gives a brief explanation on the underlying dynamics of astrology.

I'd love to read that! didn't manage to find by googling, how do I find it?

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posted May 03, 2021 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, can you elaborate more on what is the difference - when someone's name asteroid conjuncts composite Anti-vertex - how each partner perceives it? Does it make the relationship more significant for a partner with that name? Or, on the contrary, would it make the partner with the name more desired? How would the other partner feel about it?

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posted May 03, 2021 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I've just realized that other forms of our names are also very pronounced in a synastry (none of the forms are exact anyways).

In a composite all the names -

Mine:
26*47 Sag (on Mercury/Neptune midpoint?; square Juno)
22*25 Aqua (on anti-vertex)
9*40 Aries (opposite Lilith)
25*50 Libra (opposite Part of Fortune)
9*53 Virgo (square to Sun-Chiron opposition)

His:
18*45 Sag (Mercury/Uranus midpoint)
>> Mercury is at the midpoint between the first 2 versions of our names
12*13 Gemini (conjunct Chiron & opposite Sun/Uranus)

What is quite crazy is that in natals:

- in his natal different versions of ny name are conjunct Dsc, square Vertex, square Nodes, conjunct Juno;

- in my natal different versions of his name are conjunct IC & trine Vertex, conjunct Chiron

And in a synastry:
his Vertex - my name in my chart (exactly)
my name in his chart - his Vertex (3*02)
my name in his chart - Juno (exactly)
his name in his chart opposite my name in my chart
my name in his chart - my Venus (<3*)
his Priapus - my name in my chart (0*00)
his Mars - my name in my chart (3*05)

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posted May 04, 2021 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And does 111111 asteroid on composite IC mean anything? And 222222 conjunct Vertex exactly and opposite my name?

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