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plutonianmenace
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posted April 27, 2021 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go.

Which is better for sex and attraction?

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posted April 27, 2021 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto-Venus.

This is not just sex.
It is THE sex.

This is not just a bonding.
It is THE bonding.

This is not just a relationship.
It is THE relationship.

You will never be the same after this love. It lasts forever.

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posted April 27, 2021 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case somebody doesn't understand this aspect...

This is a Pluto-Venus song along with a Pluto-Venus couple...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PoGZryF3Y

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posted April 27, 2021 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And of course this couple...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVAecq3lvg

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posted April 27, 2021 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
damn let's see how this debate goes

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posted April 28, 2021 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It definitely depends on the chart holder. For me, it’s Mars Pluto hands down. My Venus is conjunct my MC. While I do appreciate and need it aspected, Pluto hitting it is always career oriented. Plus it’s in Virgo so it’s a different, older generation for me. Only kids and babies would aspect me with a trine.

My Mars is also 10th house, but when Pluto conjunct as it I go nuts. It’s very gratifying. Trines would be from people much much younger so it’s stimulating but that’s it. And as an example, my children both square my Mars. Also, Mars is my chart ruler bcs it co rules my ASC. Additionally Mars is tied into my Moon and Jupiter, while Venus is on its own except for MC.

So even though Venus rules my DSC it’s much less influential.

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posted April 29, 2021 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that it depends. For me it's Pluto-Mars. My first wife's Pluto is conjunct my angular chart ruler Mars. Match made in Heaven, 7 years of romantic bliss. Best sexualove connection in this life up until now.

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posted April 29, 2021 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eternal—Do you include all aspects from Venus-Pluto? Including the squares?

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posted April 30, 2021 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I include even squares. But...do aspects really matter? You can take any energy in your hands and transform it into the only thing that truly matters. And that is love. This is how I try to express my Pluto.

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posted June 05, 2021 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i’d say both since there’s one guy i share both of these aspects with and i can tell the difference regarding the ones i only have venus/pluto.

a combo is something out of this world. we didn’t even have sex and maybe we never will but just a single look between us is worth more than anyhing i ever did with a man.

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In Synastry I’ve had Venus sextile Pluto, Venus Square Pluto, and Mars Conjunct Pluto, where in each case the man was the Pluto.

For a long time, the Venus sextile Pluto relationship was the one I considered to be the best sexual chemistry of my life—and it still to this day is, in a way, but the Mars conjunct Pluto (which is recent) is literally insane. BEST sexual chemistry, no inhibitions, no holding back. Intense, passionate, and FUN, wow. We also have composite Venus opposition Pluto.

The Venus square Pluto relationship (we also had sun, mercury, and Mars square Pluto) is still a riddle for me. He chased me for years. I finally gave in—I was extremely attracted yet repulsed at the same time. Very intense. Still not sure what to make of it but it ended abruptly with both sides extremely hurt. We both still feel a pull but we live in different states.

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posted June 05, 2021 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
squares are something else really lol, there's a guy whoose pluto squares tightly my venus (less that 1 degree) and mars and we never even met, just spoke online and it's been years - he still stalks me on the internet, i just know he does.

he also had outbursts towards me, tried hard to provoke me and get my attention, insulted me, then complimented, then insulted again and so on it's like a neverending game of obsession, i can't even imagine what'd happen if we met.

he's the only one i had a square with. nonetheless, i feel really drawn to him too.
i prefer trines when it comes to venus/pluto and mars/pluto.

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posted June 05, 2021 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IME it's Pluto-Mars hard aspects. The sexual attraction feels intense and urgent...like a beast who has gone hungry for a few weeks while stalking its prey and you wanna do everything to the other person. It's a very primal attraction.

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posted June 05, 2021 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everything with Pluto is oh...so urgent.

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posted June 07, 2021 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Pluto-Venus relationship...

Song Of The Afternoon / by Charles Baudelaire


Though your wicked eyebrows call
Your nature into question
(Unangelic's their suggestion,
Witch whose eyes enthrall)

I adore you still
O foolish terrible emotion
Kneeling in devotion
As a priest to his idol will.

Your undone braids conceal
Desert, forest scents,
In your exotic countenance
Lie secrets unrevealed.

Over your flesh perfume drifts
Like incense 'round a censor,
Tantalizing dispenser
Of evening's ardent gifts.

No Philtres could compete
With your potent idleness:
You've mastered the caress
That raises dead me to their feet.

Your hips themselves are romanced
By your back and by your breasts:
By your languid dalliance.

Now and then, your appetite's
Uncontrolled, unassuaged:
Mysteriously enraged,
You kiss me and you bite.

Dark one, I am torn
By your savage ways,
Then, soft as the moon, your gaze
Sees my tortured heart reborn.

Beneath your satin shoe,
Beneath your charming silken foot.
My greatest joy I put
My genius and destiny, too.

You bring my spirit back,
Bringer of the light.
Exploding color in the night
Of my Siberia so black.

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posted June 07, 2021 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
plutonianmenace, have you checked Pluto with Persephone? For me this place is as powerful as Venus and Mars.

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posted June 07, 2021 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto Venus conjunct is super suuuuuper hot. It's addictive. We also had some challenging aspects that made us irritated with the other but that didn't lower the sexual attraction. We also had Sun/Mars, Mars/Venus, Sun/Venus and Lilith/Eros as well as Pluto/Lilith but that just enhanced the Pluto Venus sexual attraction

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posted June 30, 2021 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is a hot button debate

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posted June 30, 2021 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oceansofstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Pluto-Venus.

This is not just sex.
It is THE sex.

This is not just a bonding.
It is THE bonding.

This is not just a relationship.
It is THE relationship.

You will never be the same after this love. It lasts forever.


What do you think about Pluto conjunct the ruler of the Descendant/DSC almost at a 0 degree orb? Do you feel that it would function similarly to Pluto closely conjunct Venus?

This is an aspect I rarely see discussed so I'm very curious if you or anyone here has any interesting takes!

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posted July 06, 2021 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted July 06, 2021 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/Pluto is more powerful this is pure sex. Both Mars and Pluto rule sex.

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posted July 06, 2021 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
IME it's Pluto-Mars hard aspects. The sexual attraction feels intense and urgent...like a beast who has gone hungry for a few weeks while stalking its prey and you wanna do everything to the other person. It's a very primal attraction.

Lol, yes this is it exactly and honestly, men who have this aspect in their natal chart are animalistic when it comes to sex.

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posted July 06, 2021 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 07, 2021 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
men who have this aspect in their natal chart are animalistic when it comes to sex.

You just described my boyfriend. 😱😅

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posted July 07, 2021 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Pluto (conjunct) in my experience.

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