posted October 02, 2021 04:58 PM            

except that's quite a composite. Your synastry presents challenges, but that composite sure is something.

posted October 02, 2021 09:52 PM            

That would take some background context. I view the reincarnation process different than many (most?). Guidance has shown me that we have a larger, older self/level we could call our Expanded self. This part of us, creates us, our Souls on an as needed to basis, and most Souls in human form are a "new mix" created shortly before their earthly incarnation. Direct, literal reincarnations of Souls who have had previous lives is somewhat uncommon.

What is most common is that the Expanded self level, rolls/mixes together various memories, energetics, patterns, etc from various Souls and their lifetimes within it's larger "database", and creates a new, unique Soul through this mixing of various different energies.

I've also learned that Expanded selves, can, and often do, have multiple Souls/extensions of itself, going on in the same time/space cycle. This was confirmed to me by guidance a little while after I read Bruce Moen's 3rd book. In this book, Bruce relates finding out that he, his friends and mentors Robert Monroe and a female friend of theirs he refers to as Rebecca all were from the same Expanded self.

posted October 03, 2021 09:12 AM            

Simultaneous to this upcoming Saturn transit, early 2023, the transit SN will cross the composite Moon -- perhaps the perfection of an energetic dissolution. Since, transit Pluto (tr SN Ruler) will also exact by-square aspect to this same Composite Moon! Harbingers all at once.

Hang it there, looks like the breaking point is nigh. Certain death-release-removal-transformation.

posted October 05, 2021 07:40 PM            

But there is a big part of me that doesn't think that. When we come from clear intentions, a place of love, I just don't see an eye for an eye being the way. I don't know that you meant that, but that's where my mind went.

I think if there is fear, or hesitation, on any party's part, the other one is best served to operate from a place of love but allowing distance and time to heal. Whether the other person chooses to heal, or they don't take that opportunity, is completely up to them on the soul level. If we aren't ready, we aren't ready. There is no judgement, because we all need to process and grow in our own ways, on our own terms.

And perhaps you, while letting her go, can open yourself up to new and other needed experiences to help you in your soul evolution. Maybe you experience the pain more so because you are an empathetic/empathic individual, and are highly tuned in to her specifically.

posted October 05, 2021 10:37 PM            

I just saw this thread today and you have my compassion about this situation.
In that other thread recently I wrote one sentence - took it out again now - that looked, as if I was indirectly critisising you, referring to something you had written here shortly before.
In case you even read it yet - no, I hadn't even read it, I have too much Sag to be passive aggressive, 😁
and there was no reason anyway.

But I have the absolutely most difficult interpersonal charts imaginable with this forum (founding date). Never saw anything like those. 😁
So I can just sit back and wait (not long), until the next thing happens. 😗

posted October 06, 2021 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@GCE, if I understand correctly there might be an subconscious fear of letting go. From my own experience it is absolutely crushing when you feel you offered someone everything you possibly could and they still reject you. Even though I know I’m on the right path my Virgo Moon is struggling. I just can’t understand what I did wrong. I need to let go of that feeling to understand that I’m of value even if that isn’t validated by someone else (H2 nnode). Maybe the answer isn’t in your synastry but in your own chart. Could your H7 snode be holding you back?

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posted October 06, 2021 08:10 PM            

To start, there are Twins, and Twin contracts. They’re definitely not the same. Though one isn’t ‘more important’ in terms of the soul’s journey than the other. But we tend to seek one OVER the other due to a bunch of things that are both legit and conditioned. (Being poly, I know you get that.)

Contracts are just that — karma stuff. We did things, stuff came from it, now we’ve gotta do a ‘twinning thing’ to fix it. Which means taking some soul stuff from the shared energy and creating a ‘Twin contract’. The connection is essentially concluded when the contract’s purpose has been completed.

Telling the difference between them is HARD. Sometimes it’s ONLY by going deep into the Soul level of experience that we even REALLY know if it’s a contract or ‘legit’.

So what’s ‘legit’ anyway? Especially when you can shift timelines and do all kinda crazy jazz and have your Twin shift bodies and dimensions and overlight and blah-blah-blah? What’s even the point? Why does it matter if contract or The Real Deal™️? Not to mention when you’re better off marrying a Soulmate (or a Karmic with a True Love contract) for the long term? (Rays, not so much. There’s still a whole lotta mirroring, polarisation, and magnetising with a Ray.)

Honestly? I think that’s an internal thing. Kinda literally. In my experience, at least, following an actual Twin merge (not a Soul Retrieval from a Twin contract or Soulmate or Ray, where the fragment is recovered and reintegrated) he’s there. Just … always, always on some lower level THERE. And as he’s described it, it’s ‘a background process that he’s able to select and bring to the foreground but still gets notified of any changes in the background’. (And that actually comes from our mission and our karma, stemming from a few lifelines.)

I’ve never experienced THAT with a Twin contract, or even Ray. Can it happen? Very well may. It’s just not been in my wheelhouse. And that frustrates some different aspects of human living. You learn quite quick how to start accepting this weird feeling of not quite being alone. Or the furthest away they might ‘be’ is the next room, kinda thing. But you FEEL them. ALL the time, deep within your Heart. They’re just … THERE.

(Even poly, that makes other relationships a bit … complicated. Unless they’re hella kinky, and like to ‘watch’? Hah. I really dunno, as both of us are oddly down with it being just us, providing an Actual Relationship happens. Heh. And neither of us are pursuing any kind of anything with anyone right now.)

Contracts have a dedicated purpose, whereas Twin unions / reunions are an evolving thing — WITH a specified and dedicated purpose. Ours is the very essence of Partnership — cooperation, sharing of the ‘me’ to form the ‘we’, stepping outside of our ego selves to contribute to the greater whole of the shared energy.

We’ve not been able to do this. Like ever. Either because of outside forces, or then we just couldn’t get it together out of lacking experience.

But circumstances REALLY matter in THAT context. (Rather, in THIS one.)

If peace and unity were to just suddenly happen, and all were groovy — we’d be out of a job. I think in that sense, we’d shift timelines where we’re in a Twin contract, because the work would basically be done. And we didn’t do a damned thing. Heh. The mission we were assigned would be irrelevant, and we’d have to do something else. Would we just come together anyway for the helluvit? Sure, in the context of that happening AFTER everything else did, we might anyway. There’s enough knitting and entwining that we’d just be happier together than apart, ultimately, even if we don’t get a massive power upgrade alongside it. Heh.

But Twins DEFINITELY do, because of the ‘split signal’ coming back into a single signal at the same frequency. It gets amplified — stronger, clearer, brighter.

Contracts, again, just work differently. They’re here for The Thing To Be Done. And they don’t typically evolve. The WHOLE point is to accomplish THE THING.

But, right, exactly — it can be a simple thing, or a complex one. And THAT’s where it gets tricky and convoluted. We do ‘things’ all the time, right? We take out the trash, prepare meals, do some accounting, go to work (or do something to bring in income), act as caregivers, friends, and lovers. They range in complexity. Same goes for missions.

A Twin contract is gonna have a specific purpose that can discharge with greater ease than what a ‘Twin set’ may be here to do. There are some clear signs of ‘twinning’ for sure — but whether it’s ‘the Twin’ or a Twin contract is a more involved investigation.

From cursory glance at your situation though, GCE, I’m gonna say there’s some definite evidence of a contract. I like to err on the side of ‘contract until proven otherwise’. I say this because you’re clearly influential regarding her development and awakening, and there may be some energetic exchange between you that’s designed to clear pathways and open new channels.

So. Why does the soul create a Twin contract? Here’s how I’ve come to understand it, slowly, over time. And more recently via my own experiences — which I’ll admit, help me learn greatly.

My last active Twin contract began in 2016, whereabouts when my partner started his individual mission, that would become essential to our Twin mission. (I’d learn that in 2020.) About a month shy of meeting him, I’d begun having dreams where my Twin contract was ‘resolving’ into my Twin connection. Almost like the work was now available to begin tackling with my Twin. It wasn’t gonna get handled via the contract.

And while we’ll hit lulls, things will get crazy, and it’ll feel like maybe something discharged, and our Twin connection is being rerouted into something else (which can happen, though we’d hope, not often) the CONDITIONS haven’t changed. The work remains active, undone, and urgent. WE are still in position to do it.

But does that mean once an aspect of it gets completed, the rest won’t matter? It’ll, basically, be a contract?

I’ll explain.

We’re both familiar with soul connections and contracts. I helped out a lotta people regarding theirs, and he’s been more private in the background, and only just coming into this facet of himself. So we’ve both had Twin contracts as well as numerous soulmates — specific purpose things and ongoing connections.

But THIS one, between us, remains rather surreal and staggering. Even if it doesn’t have proper ‘space’ to evolve in all of the ways to explore all of the dynamics natural to it, that it wants to at the current time. (At least, it hasn’t for awhile now.) And we’re both aware of that. We also know there’s potential for it, and are open to that occurring should the universe bring it to bear again. It’s all a lotta ‘trusting the journey’.

I’m inclined to think it IS, like we say, a ‘twin flame kinda thing’ rather than a contract, due to how it operates. And, for several reasons, we call it a Force Dyad, rather than ‘twin flames’. Heh. Yeah. So. About that …

We’re pretty connected and up in large communities that absolutely hate each other. No exaggeration. We’re talking with the fire of a thousand suns. I’m often flabbergasted at the sheer level and constancy of this mutual hatred

Aaaaand then you get us. We pop up, in the middle of it, with a mutually acknowledged ‘twin flame kinda thing’ that we start ‘marketing’ as a Force Dyad, heh, because we want OTHERS to follow suit, ditch the hate, and collaborate.

And yes, ‘then you get us’ is a WHOLE other deal and in and of itself which is becoming a book right now. It’s a helluva story.

So let’s say, BECAUSE of this work, this mission, once the thing we’re collaborating on gets done … will that resolve EVERYTHING?

I don’t think so. Because our thing is still ONE THING. It doesn’t encompass the broader nature of EVERYTHING. A one-time collaboration IS a big deal initially, a declared partnership is bigger still, but an active connection and union of souls is probably the grandest of all.

Funny though, I’m not sure it would be, were it not for the dynamics presented in the Star Wars sequels. Sure, R+J, West Side Story — the ‘star-crossed lovers’ archetype has existed for a VERY long time, influencing our pop culture. But an ACTIVE rather than PASSIVE influence has a BIG impact on the nature of these things. Why? Because of the energy.

While there’s a timelessness about both iterations of Shakespeare, and the hundreds of derivative works, the Star Wars is a multibillionaire property, with SUCH a constantly growing presence in our culture ALL OVER THE WORLD, one is hard-pressed to find someone completely clueless, and the general population of fans are quite rabid — especially since a huge division occurred a few years ago.

Why am I getting into this minutiae? Energy. Impact. Scope. Purpose.

The collective consciousness of the Star Wars fandom is deeply divided due to the Sequel Trilogy — the one which just so happened to (very clumsily, I’ll admit) induct the ‘twin flame paradigm’ into its universe. It’s valid. It’s canon. It’s brought A LOT of awareness to the concept to a group that was already much more receptive to awakening to their soul’s journey.

That’s having a big impact. MASSIVE. Globally.

I’m sure you get this, but when you hook into the nature of an archetype, or embody the energy of a concept, it’s a very freaky experience that causes some major ripples. So it’s important to get a sense of what that initial presence is really about — what purpose it served.

Despite the hodgepodge and chaotic introduction, divisive exploration, and unsatisfactory resolution of the characters of Rey and Ben Solo/Kylo Ren — their purpose was made pretty clear: unity through balance. Balance the Force, by essentially uniting its disparate expression that runs to the extreme — ‘the Force’ itself and its ‘Dark side’. Or, as it’s embodied via its most devoted communities who pursue their ideology with a religious fervour — the Sith and the Jedi.

Was their mission accomplished? There’s a lotta evidence against it. Without massively spoiling everything, we’re gonna leave it at this —

NOBODY is happy with the ending. NOBODY. Nobody is okay with how it turned out.

That’s A LOT of people, regardless of what ‘side’ you’re on — if you’re a ‘fan of the Sequels’ or you hate them with an all-consuming passion, or you’re kinda middle road. That’s A LOT of very unhappy people.

And whether they wanted certain things very differently or only minor changes, the consensus is that ‘the twin flames’ or the Force Dyad should’ve resolved into some form of actual union that fulfilled the mission of balancing the Force.

We all hook into aspects and elements of archetypes all the time. You don’t need to be an avatar for that one. (But I’m sure it helps! Hah.) And whether we do it in a small way or a large one mostly depends upon what needs to get done.

So when my partner and I half-seriously joked about thinking ‘it’s gonna take us to balance the Force’ … well, I’d say ‘careful what you wish for’ but the truth is we were just BECOMING AWARE of what’s already there.

I mean, dude. The astrology on this is INSANE. It’s so blatant it’s funny. Like VALENTINE-ANGEL-DIDYMOS-GEORGELUCAS — in Aquarius? Just, y’know, because WTF not? Haha. Nope. Not even kidding.

And just in case he needed to be smacked in the face some more, he’s got my first-last name skyrocks hangin’ out with REY-SKYWALKER opposite his own BENJAMINS/SOLOSKY parallel his NNODE. Because. Y’know. Why not?

And if you have NO clue what I’m talking about for some reason, my apologies. But if you do — YOU ARE LAUGHING YOUR ASS OFF. So, it was worth the shot.

So, with THAT going on, on top of ALL OF THE REST happening … it was pretty obvious what OUR mission is. And because of this HUGE unrest in the energy of the community, there’s an AMAZING push to create unity and balance for these beloved ‘Disney done dirty’ characters.

And energy is energy. It WANTS to attach itself to that which vibes with it. Should something connect to it, or a channel open it can flow into — BOOM. It’s gonna do it.

It’s also quite clear that we’re ‘sharing’ this mission, per that astrology, and the weird circumstances that brought us together. (I mean, we met on the 43rd anniversary of the release of ‘A New Hope’. COME ON.)

And yep. Here we are. We’re sandwiched between these warring groups, AND YET, there’s this sliver of an energy that somehow gets a pass. EVERYBODY wanted to see the Dyad succeed.

So you tell people ‘oh, we’re a real life Force Dyad’ and that’s why you’re doing what you’re doing. And they don’t know what to do. Are you legit? Are you crazy? Is this a metaphor for something else? Are you meaning what they think you’re meaning?

Their nerdy brains kinda go ‘huh, well, yeah, they were supposed to unite the opposing collectives and bring balance to the Force … kinda what we’ve been after since the first Skywalker … ‘ because they WANT that.

But if you just go ‘hey, yeah, so, my partner’s a part of that group you think are the worst people on Earth, and we’re working together because we have a destined spiritual connection’ they literally stop listening after you mention the first part. Automatic shutdown.

But if you go ‘yeah, we’re a Force Dyad, here to bring unity to the fandom and industry as a whole so we can heal the divisions’ THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO. It bypasses the auto-reject, and they start to think about it. Some accept it, and have questions about how it all works. Others just don’t shoot you on sight. Either works for me. Progress either way.

And it’s THAT incredible unifying energy … it’s the collective PUSH towards reunion / union … THAT does A LOT to drive this sort of mission.

So it seems like our biggest impact ACTUALLY IS our mere state of togetherness. The work we do, what we create, is undeniably a big part of it — and will continue to be. But we make the greatest statement, in perpetuity, by standing by, supporting, and yes — showing unconditional love to and trust in one another.

But, hey. Everyone loves a good ol’ happy ending. So I sure hope we can give ‘em one.

And that’s been my experience, overall. Your mileage will obviously vary. But it’s likely to bear some element of a mission, or a clear enough purpose, that’s either a Twin contract, or the ‘broader scope’ work that Twins often find ourselves in.