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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 13, 2021 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I showed this chart to my astrologer (Eloquent Sky on Instagram, and she has recently joined the forum as well if I am not mistaken), and she said it is marriage-y. She then gave me the timeframes that this person and I would mostly likely get married.

I wonder if you guys agree? This is a person I have known for 9 months and lately things have gotten more serious. I haven't exactly fell for him yet and I don't want to ask him about his feelings. I am afraid of getting married without falling in love first and then I also see many broken marriages all the time depite the intial big love. This person treats me with so much respect and I can talk to him about anything. He is kind of like a male best friend to me. Anyway, please forgive my rant, I just want to know what you guys think.

Thanks a lot

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Stoika7
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posted October 13, 2021 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi girlwiththerainysoul,
sorry I don't agree with your astrologer.
In this relationship there's harmony and affection, but it's not enough for long term or even marriage. There are two strong divisive aspectes here, Jupiter quincunx to Uranus and Sun/Chiron opposite Saturn/Neptune. It is possible that you will somehow find yourself "stuck" to this person on long term, mainly cause you support each other, but in this case the marriage will suffer the lack of basic elements for romance and deep feelings. With Jupiter quincunx to Uranus separation is always possible and it gives instability. But there may also be a very heavy burden in this relationship, one of you having priorities outside the relationship may become a burden to the other and highly divisive. But I'm not sure this will last until next spring/summer.

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posted October 14, 2021 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi girlwiththerainysoul,
sorry I don't agree with your astrologer.
In this relationship there's harmony and affection, but it's not enough for long term or even marriage. There are two strong divisive aspectes here, Jupiter quincunx to Uranus and Sun/Chiron opposite Saturn/Neptune. It is possible that you will somehow find yourself "stuck" to this person on long term, mainly cause you support each other, but in this case the marriage will suffer the lack of basic elements for romance and deep feelings. With Jupiter quincunx to Uranus separation is always possible and it gives instability. But there may also be a very heavy burden in this relationship, one of you having priorities outside the relationship may become a burden to the other and highly divisive. But I'm not sure this will last until next spring/summer.

Dear Stoika,

Thank you very much for your fantastic take on this chart. I am learning so much from you. The reason my astrologer said it would be good for marriage, I guess according to her is Sun/Chiron which she worded as "highly romantic" especially on his part, which I concur with a bit because a lot of times he talks to me about me and how he sees me and I certainly sense pain in his voice. She also mentioned quite a similar thing to what you said, that breaking the bond will be difficult and hence maybe we will be stuck to one another for a long time. She said because of the Chiron/sun opposition to Saturn, we will most probably know each other for two years before officially getting engaged or married.

He definitely does have a lot of family responsibilities, although he usually leaves his family for a year and travels for work, then goes back to them to get things sorted and after a month or two he's back at traveling.


May I ask what planetary combinations you believe are contributing to a lack of affection?

Even though there is Venus square Pluto I am yet to sense some passion about him. Again I have no intention yet to ask his opinion. I should add that I am a very physically charged person, and good sex is really really important to me lol.

I would just say that I can tell this man "everything". Our communication is very smooth. AAh this is so confusing. Lol

Here is also the synastry (he is red) for your reference:
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lilithbabe
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posted October 14, 2021 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithbabe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The grand water trine in this chart is beautiful. An ocean of emotion in this chart.

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 14, 2021 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithbabe:
The grand water trine in this chart is beautiful. An ocean of emotion in this chart.

Lilithbabe thank you for commentin actually we do talk a lot about emotions in general! There is a lot of discussion about art, music, cinema and poetry between us.

I also have a natal water grand trine (moon, pluto, Mars). I am familiar with the energy. It tends to get a little too internal and sometimes even against you, especially when pluto is involved, yet at the same time you can't help but be the way you are. Letting in a bit of the darker side.

I am beginning to think because he doesn't touch my Chiron that's why I'm struggling to sense passion about him. Maybe also because there is composite Mars in Libra. I don't know I might be wrong. What do you think?

I have had chaotic composite charts with ex partners where the energy was sometimes unbearably passionate. Yet here the nice pattern seems to be giving me doubts and confusion!

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posted October 14, 2021 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Dear Stoika,

Thank you very much for your fantastic take on this chart. I am learning so much from you. The reason my astrologer said it would be good for marriage, I guess according to her is Sun/Chiron which she worded as "highly romantic" especially on his part, which I concur with a bit because a lot of times he talks to me about me and how he sees me and I certainly sense pain in his voice. She also mentioned quite a similar thing to what you said, that breaking the bond will be difficult and hence maybe we will be stuck to one another for a long time. She said because of the Chiron/sun opposition to Saturn, we will most probably know each other for two years before officially getting engaged or married.

He definitely does have a lot of family responsibilities, although he usually leaves his family for a year and travels for work, then goes back to them to get things sorted and after a month or two he's back at traveling.


May I ask what planetary combinations you believe are contributing to a lack of affection?

Even though there is Venus square Pluto I am yet to sense some passion about him. Again I have no intention yet to ask his opinion. I should add that I am a very physically charged person, and good sex is really really important to me lol.

I would just say that I can tell this man "everything". Our communication is very smooth. AAh this is so confusing. Lol

Here is also the synastry (he is red) for your reference:


Thank you for the synastry and a bit more context :-)

Looking at the synastry, it actually shows a deep emotional bond, even though it looks that deeper feelings are especially from his part. (his Pluto conjunct to your IC square his Moon conjunct to your Saturn/DSC opposite to your Jupiter). From the house overlays, with your Sun in the 10th house conjunct to his DSC and his Saturn falling on your 4th house trine to your Jupiter and axis, there's great familiarity, devotion and committment, but again I see a lack of romantic feelings. So I am wondering if this bond is made more of such emotional familiarity and therefore "security" about committment than passion and romance. Which is totally fine, if this is what one is looking for in a long term relationship... To me, at sexual level, it all looks quite "balanced", but I cant see great passion according to Mars. The Venus/Neptune aspects would suggest a more open relationship at sexual level, so my feeling is that this couple may be committed, affecionate, united for family/marriage purpose, but on a passionate level they both may be unsatisfied on the long run and can even look for (or desire) a different sexual partner outside the relationship.

The Composite Sun/Chiron/MC is very binding, but it is usually a bond where responsabilities have a special weight, it's like if you two are on a mission together and stay together for a purpose of responsability rather than staying together because you are really in love with each other. This is especially true with the Saturn opposition. Chiron here can give a deep sense of intimacy, devotion and familiarity, but at the same time there's a struggle. For instance, his own family duties can become the burden I was talking about, or maybe his career and travels. So here a very dedicated effort is required from the other partner (you) in order to support the one who has such responsabilities and in order to keep the bond.
Again it's all OK if both are willing to keep the bond, but with the Saturn opposition you need to seriously care about this bond otherwise Saturn becomes divisive. The issue here is Jupiter quincunx to Uranus which can add instability to this balance and let you question the strenght of this bond.
The Moon/Jupiter midpoint is opposite Mars so I believe that there can be some unbalance since one of the two may be more supported than the other, while the Mars/Venus midpoint is square Mercury, so again there are likely more logical reasons than passion in this committment. But where is Juno?


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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 15, 2021 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Thank you for the synastry and a bit more context :-)

Looking at the synastry, it actually shows a deep emotional bond, even though it looks that deeper feelings are especially from his part. (his Pluto conjunct to your IC square his Moon conjunct to your Saturn/DSC opposite to your Jupiter). From the house overlays, with your Sun in the 10th house conjunct to his DSC and his Saturn falling on your 4th house trine to your Jupiter and axis, there's great familiarity, devotion and committment, but again I see a lack of romantic feelings. So I am wondering if this bond is made more of such emotional familiarity and therefore "security" about committment than passion and romance. Which is totally fine, if this is what one is looking for in a long term relationship... To me, at sexual level, it all looks quite "balanced", but I cant see great passion according to Mars. The Venus/Neptune aspects would suggest a more open relationship at sexual level, so my feeling is that this couple may be committed, affecionate, united for family/marriage purpose, but on a passionate level they both may be unsatisfied on the long run and can even look for (or desire) a different sexual partner outside the relationship.

The Composite Sun/Chiron/MC is very binding, but it is usually a bond where responsabilities have a special weight, it's like if you two are on a mission together and stay together for a purpose of responsability rather than staying together because you are really in love with each other. This is especially true with the Saturn opposition. Chiron here can give a deep sense of intimacy, devotion and familiarity, but at the same time there's a struggle. For instance, his own family duties can become the burden I was talking about, or maybe his career and travels. So here a very dedicated effort is required from the other partner (you) in order to support the one who has such responsabilities and in order to keep the bond.
Again it's all OK if both are willing to keep the bond, but with the Saturn opposition you need to seriously care about this bond otherwise Saturn becomes divisive. The issue here is Jupiter quincunx to Uranus which can add instability to this balance and let you question the strenght of this bond.
The Moon/Jupiter midpoint is opposite Mars so I believe that there can be some unbalance since one of the two may be more supported than the other, while the Mars/Venus midpoint is square Mercury, so again there are likely more logical reasons than passion in this committment. But where is Juno?


Dear Stoika,

Your analysis blows my mind!

Here are the composite and the synastry with Juno added:

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And the progressed composite:
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Stoika7
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posted October 15, 2021 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh well... in the Composite, Juno conjunct IC/Uranus AND Saturn opposite Chiron, makes things even a bit more complicated and...intense! Maybe this is why your astrologer predicted marriage. In that dynamic of strong familiarity and emotional intimacy along with responsabilities and burdens, Juno here adds the sense of committment, but at the same time with Uranus and the Chiron opposition involved, it can also add criticism and divisive issues, unless the two people are like "one", i.e. you need a very deep and inner knowledge of each other's intimate world and vulnerabilities in order to make things really stable and smooth between you two. If you lack this synergy, Juno here can arise criticism against each other for very little things (in the long run).
I think you may actually have such a level of synergy because of North Node conjunct Moon and the Grand Kite giving more balance and harmony... in the big picture, I just think there's still an element of instability, so this relationship requires serious dedication to work out, especially if you get married.
I think that as transiting North Node is conjunct to Composite Jupiter, there's a turning point, a test that will reveal whether it's worth for you, or whether you're up, to go for important decisions in this committment or not. 💙

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posted October 16, 2021 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Oh well... in the Composite, Juno conjunct IC/Uranus AND Saturn opposite Chiron, makes things even a bit more complicated and...intense! Maybe this is why your astrologer predicted marriage. In that dynamic of strong familiarity and emotional intimacy along with responsabilities and burdens, Juno here adds the sense of committment, but at the same time with Uranus and the Chiron opposition involved, it can also add criticism and divisive issues, unless the two people are like "one", i.e. you need a very deep and inner knowledge of each other's intimate world and vulnerabilities in order to make things really stable and smooth between you two. If you lack this synergy, Juno here can arise criticism against each other for very little things (in the long run).
I think you may actually have such a level of synergy because of North Node conjunct Moon and the Grand Kite giving more balance and harmony... in the big picture, I just think there's still an element of instability, so this relationship requires serious dedication to work out, especially if you get married.
I think that as transiting North Node is conjunct to Composite Jupiter, there's a turning point, a test that will reveal whether it's worth for you, or whether you're up, to go for important decisions in this committment or not. 💙

Dear Stoika thanks for everything. I believe I asked my astrologer if this relationship has a long-term marriage potential. From what I gathered, I believe she checks Saturn in the composite and moon/moon and/or venus/venus in synastry and also some Uranus and Chiron for the magical factors. She also checked and compared our draconic and 9th harmonic charts. Although she did say the eventually the marriage comes to a decision between us. I believe this aligns with what you said about the upcoming Jupiter events for our relationship and whether or not he or I will decide to take it to the next level.

Let me go on and post our natal charts as well for your better reference. My time o birth is correct, his might be off for a few minutes. I think based on our interactions my sun is in his 6th rather than the 7th. But I may also be wrong.

Here they are. He is the Leo sun person:


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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 16, 2021 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed something weird (or is anything ever weird in astrology lol): My most significant relationships, all three of them have Jupiter in their natal 4th house. It's as if I am exceptionally attracted to their type.

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posted October 17, 2021 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for Stoika and others

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