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moonlightavenue
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posted November 23, 2021 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I would like to know your opinion toward this synastry and composite. It seems quite "lucky" to me. Does it seem to you too that this will have great long term potential?

Composite: http://ibb.co/ZBWs4yn

Synastry: http://ibb.co/BjMJxkr

Thanks in advance!

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@eloquent__sky
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posted November 24, 2021 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @eloquent__sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!

I believe this is mostly an off-again on-again scenario, with possibly love at first sight. Because of the DC ruler square Uranus, and MC ruler being in the 9th, I'm not entirely sure about the longevity of this contact but I may be wrong. Nevertheless, things will be quite intense with them and never boring. He might be more on the controlling side though.

Is the female's Moon in Leo or the male's?

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moonlightavenue
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posted November 24, 2021 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by @eloquent__sky:
Hello!

I believe this is mostly an off-again on-again scenario, with possibly love at first sight. Because of the DC ruler square Uranus, and MC ruler being in the 9th, I'm not entirely sure about the longevity of this contact but I may be wrong. Nevertheless, things will be quite intense with them and never boring. He might be more on the controlling side though.

Is the female's Moon in Leo or the male's?


I'm (female) the Scorpio moon and he is the Leo Moon! We met around 7 years ago and nothing happened because I was with a partner and at the time the age difference (I'm 2 and half years older) felt obvious, then we saw again very randomly a few years later and he had a partner, and finally hit it off last year. It feels we're like a "power couple" for many reasons and we're planning on emigrating together! So I hope it actually lasts haha, I've never had that certainty with other people

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outofideas
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posted November 25, 2021 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I was considering this relationship for myself, based on seeing this synastry and composite I would give it a hard pass.

You're both still in your 20's though so I don't know where you're really at mentally, emotionally, experience-wise.

There are hard aspects in both synastry and composite that "doom" a stable, loving relationship. It looks karmic with that Venus Pluto conjunction in the composite. I don't like the Moon-Saturn opposition, if you've not been reluctant about this person in the past, once having been with him for a few years you'd find he's not making you feel good. There is a strong Mars square Neptune and Uranus influence as well which never bodes well for a commitment to one person or being faithful. The strong Mars Pluto square in the synastry also puts me off.

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vansio
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posted November 26, 2021 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars harsh aspect to Uranus or Neptune in composite means cheating/betrayal eventually. 🚩 I’ve seen the consequence in many charts, even my own ex (fiancé) with an inconjunct.

If I were you, seeing this aspect, I’d stay away from this relationship. Especially since he’s oversexed: Venus mars conjunct. You (Saturn-squaring), despite how compulsive that feels, don’t owe him anything. Skip the karmic lesson by stopping yourself now.

Don’t expect commitment longer than max a year or two, tho frankly the charts are about to get busted in the next half year. The relationship’s direction (composite mars) is to delusion (neptune). The guy is pulling wool over your eyes. Neptune erodes self esteem over time. Not to mention, the SN ruler (and traditional 7th Ruler) is that same afflicted mars. NN conjunct Chiron = future is wounded.

With natal Saturn in 1st and Mars in 7th House, you’re much safer if you just wait until after 32 years old for any “marriage”-like commitments (be a self-possessed woman). Otherwise, it will most likely fail (end in a divorce, major separation) until Saturn as a planet fully matures, a few years after your Saturn Return.

Irregardless of what you choose, I hope you come back to this thread in the future to give us an update.

Transit Saturn is about to square your natal Moon/NN/Venus. Transit Uranus opposition for a while. Not a stable time for commitments, to say the least.

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LunaIscariot
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posted November 26, 2021 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

Is he an artistic/creative type? Or does he have substance abuse tendencies or issues? Even in the past?

Also can you post the full charts of Synastry/Composite AND Davison chart (corrected) with the aspect grids showing?

I’ll give my full analysis and prediction after that

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moonlightavenue
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posted November 27, 2021 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Hi!

Is he an artistic/creative type? Or does he have substance abuse tendencies or issues? Even in the past?

Also can you post the full charts of Synastry/Composite AND Davison chart (corrected) with the aspect grids showing?

I’ll give my full analysis and prediction after that


Hi LunaIscariot!

Thank you for your time. He indeed is the artistic type and is very talented in everything he does (that grand trine helps a lot!) As requested, here are the charts:

Here is my natal: http://ibb.co/Yt4q4TK

His natal: http://ibb.co/1r3jcRS

Davison (corrected) http://ibb.co/6rnXvYj

The composite with the table: http://ibb.co/YDtKd22

The synastry aspects table (where I am the one horizontally): http://ibb.co/S7LLmK6

Thank you so much for any insights!

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moonlightavenue
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posted November 27, 2021 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by outofideas:
If I was considering this relationship for myself, based on seeing this synastry and composite I would give it a hard pass.

You're both still in your 20's though so I don't know where you're really at mentally, emotionally, experience-wise.

There are hard aspects in both synastry and composite that "doom" a stable, loving relationship. It looks karmic with that Venus Pluto conjunction in the composite. I don't like the Moon-Saturn opposition, if you've not been reluctant about this person in the past, once having been with him for a few years you'd find he's not making you feel good. There is a strong Mars square Neptune and Uranus influence as well which never bodes well for a commitment to one person or being faithful. The strong Mars Pluto square in the synastry also puts me off.


Hi outofideas! Thank you so much for taking the time to look at the charts and your analysis. I have to say that I'm very surprised, we in fact are, because I told him about the forum and we are mind blown with all this information! And honestly after one year of being together we couldn't have a better communication, so it's very surprising. Maybe these influences could be more felt in 10 or 20 years? Does being self aware and going to therapy and all may help us go through it all? Saturn is clearly binding, lol.

No but, really, thank you very much for your insights, they're greatly appreciated.

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moonlightavenue
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posted November 27, 2021 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Mars harsh aspect to Uranus or Neptune in composite means cheating/betrayal eventually. 🚩 I’ve seen the consequence in many charts, even my own ex (fiancé) with an inconjunct.

If I were you, seeing this aspect, I’d stay away from this relationship. Especially since he’s oversexed: Venus mars conjunct. You (Saturn-squaring), despite how compulsive that feels, don’t owe him anything. Skip the karmic lesson by stopping yourself now.

Don’t expect commitment longer than max a year or two, tho frankly the charts are about to get busted in the next half year. The relationship’s direction (composite mars) is to delusion (neptune). The guy is pulling wool over your eyes. Neptune erodes self esteem over time. Not to mention, the SN ruler (and traditional 7th Ruler) is that same afflicted mars. NN conjunct Chiron = future is wounded.

With natal Saturn in 1st and Mars in 7th House, you’re much safer if you just wait until after 32 years old for any “marriage”-like commitments (be a self-possessed woman). Otherwise, it will most likely fail (end in a divorce, major separation) until Saturn as a planet fully matures, a few years after your Saturn Return.

Irregardless of what you choose, I hope you come back to this thread in the future to give us an update.

Transit Saturn is about to square your natal Moon/NN/Venus. Transit Uranus opposition for a while. Not a stable time for commitments, to say the least.


I was left speechless!!!! Thank you so much!

I've been reading a lot about the Mars-Neptune/Uranus square and boy it's intense! Might be a sign of an open relationship? Is something we have discussed because I brought it to the table and it feels right to try eventually.

We will probably be moving together around May/June next year, so I guess that's when we'll see the real deal. We work in great harmony because among all we've always been good friends, but I see what you mean and what to pay attention to. When you say that the charts will get busted, which transits are you referring to? Just so I understand it too.

I'll for sure come back to the thread eventually to keep everyone updated, haha. And thank you also for the recommendation to wait until my Saturn return passes (my mother had me on hers) for the real commitment (marriage).

Thank you again and I'll wait for your response <3

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moonlightavenue
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posted November 27, 2021 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightavenue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say that I somehow thought that the good placements could go over any other "not so good" ones. Such as the stellium in the 7th and the moon and north node in the 5th, or the composite ascendant in Taurus, but boy I have tons to learn!

Thank you to anyone who wants to keep adding to the debate, I feel like a lab rat haha! <3

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outofideas
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posted November 27, 2021 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moonlightavenue:
Hi outofideas! Thank you so much for taking the time to look at the charts and your analysis. I have to say that I'm very surprised, we in fact are, because I told him about the forum and we are mind blown with all this information! And honestly after one year of being together we couldn't have a better communication, so it's very surprising. Maybe these influences could be more felt in 10 or 20 years? Does being self aware and going to therapy and all may help us go through it all? Saturn is clearly binding, lol.

No but, really, thank you very much for your insights, they're greatly appreciated.


Haha it's quite cute that you are both reading this.

Well, you did ask about long term potential and so in my mind this means a stable, healthy and loving relationship. I don't quite see that with your charts unfortunately. But like I said I do acknowledge that you two may be on a very different level emotionally and mentally.
It takes time for some aspects to rear their ugly heads so it may well take a few years before issues pile up or start becoming a problem. However if you'd prefer an emotionally detached and open-relationship this one can definitely offer that. But, again, I do not see this being in anyone's favour long-term. Your relationship seems to be based on sex primarily and definitely has this on-off vibe to it.
I have been in relationships with these aspects and it took me a few years to realise how toxic we have become and how we are not good for each other. So the first couple of years or so may definitely seem good. I don't think therapy can help in most situations. The placements you see as good are not very significant to how you relate to one another.

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